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Old 26th-February-2009, 11:22 AM
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Exclamation Affiliate Club - Predatory Terms Change (resolved)

While we have only evaluated the FAQ so far (Terms have too many changes to do quickly)... this change affects earnings of all affiliates. This is a predatory change and is seen in the FAQ and followed up in the T&C's.

Not a good move by Affiliate Club:

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Old 26th-February-2009, 11:48 AM
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Affiliate Club,

This is extremely predatory. Do you intend to enforce the term retroactively on your existing affiliates? Please let us know ASAP. I was planning to start promoting your new casino, Slots Club, but now I may actually skip this and take down Casino Club while I'm at it.

I don't think it's fair to base affiliate commissions on how well YOU (Affiliate Club) can convert and retain players.

If an affiliate has a base of players (or even one player) that generates decent revenue each month, you should pay the affiliate each month -- period. You should not base payment on whether YOU are able to convert the current traffic an affiliate is sending.

Please think about this; I hope you'll revert to your original T&Cs.

Nobody wants to work with a program that has predatory terms and conditions!
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Old 26th-February-2009, 01:40 PM
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The actual terms alert is in now and analyzed. It appears, at this point, that the term will be applied retroactively to all affiliates.

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Old 26th-February-2009, 06:31 PM
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Good catch. I just signed up with Affiliate Club this week, ready to start promoting their casinos hopefully from tomorrow or Monday at the latest.

I guess a rethink is in order now.

Edited to add: Just read the full change over at AGD. Looks like I won't be promoting them until it is removed. I will be onto Chris about this in the morning.
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Old 26th-February-2009, 10:55 PM
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I really hope they do rethink it.
Bad move on their part.
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Thanks AGD, I was looking at them too for a new project, but will give it a miss.
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I actually think that it really makes sense. I talked to the guys after I saw the publication here and the only thing they say that it makes sense to have affiliates as partners for the good and bad...but it doesnt make sense to have affiliates to take the cake buy themselves and never share the other things... BTW I think they are far away to be the first ones to do it...many others already dont it. Affiliates=Partners, Partners have to work together....see what is happening with someone we know where partners are not cooperating, does it make sense? not to me, not in both ways...
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No, it doesn't make sense.

If THEY can't convert the traffic I send them, for whatever reason, then I don't deserve to get paid on the past players I sent them?

How does that make sense?
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see the commission plan: http://cpays.com/casino_commission.php

all they are saying, be our partner, work with us (same as cpays, europartners, 888 and others) and we will pay you. I think until today they were one of the most reliable programs paying hard cash to all and they need to get supported
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I actually think that it really makes sense. I talked to the guys after I saw the publication here and the only thing they say that it makes sense to have affiliates as partners for the good and bad...but it doesnt make sense to have affiliates to take the cake buy themselves and never share the other things... BTW I think they are far away to be the first ones to do it...many others already dont it. Affiliates=Partners, Partners have to work together....see what is happening with someone we know where partners are not cooperating, does it make sense? not to me, not in both ways...
No it doesn't make sense. If you promote under a rev share agreement and you have agreed to terms that every player you refer to said casino, you accrue revenue for the lifetime of those players - then that is what should happen. To change it afterwards is wrong and deceitful and predatory.

Let me suggest something to you Itay. Why don't you promote them. Because I am sure you will probably be the only one.

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(same as cpays, europartners, 888 and others)
Yes all three groups thankfully I don't promote and for good reason. Funnily enough EuroPartners have moved on from spamming my mail accounts, to now making unsolicited phone calls to my office.

Regarding CPays or whatever they are now. Just do a search on google.
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