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    In that case it is just a roulette game that would most likely be based on RNG, it does NOT look like anyone's live dealer roulette games that I have looked at.

    Looks to me like someone that put a youtube channel up that is NOT telling the truth to their visitors, since if they wanted to show a video of Live Roulette they could have made a video of Live Roulette not that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    I would have to agree if it was found out to be cgi and yet claiming to be a live dealer spinning the wheel then that would be ummm (no other way to say it) fraudulent or a lie.....
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    Ok..this cgi...or is this a real weel ?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmxlpJOudJQ
    After watching your 2nd video Progger (thank you for a longer version!) and some investigations there is no doubt, that I was right with my 1st assessment yesterday - beginning with this: http://www.gpwa.org/forum/betting-sy...tml#post809922

    My old brain still gives an alarm if something is weird.

    This "Live Auto Roulette" it 100% nothing but an animated RNG!

    You can ask Bwin if you want. It's no real wheel and the claim from the casino, that this is "live", is - to use Rick's words - "fraudulent or a lie"

    Players will psychologically be tricked to believe, they are playing at some kind of TouchBet Roulette table (Airball Roulette) with real balls and a real wheel.

    I will write an article and a public warning about this on my Roulette Zeitung in the next time.

    Thank you Progger for bringing this to my attention. I know, there is another thing I have to write about because of a hint from you. You see, there is so much strange and so much criminal energy in this industry, that I need obviously 3 reincarantions to take care about it ... but my wife comes first.

    Don't forget how much time I invested into this worst Happybet guy.

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    Wow interesting stuff, it is looks like fraud live game, live dealer experience I know is way different.

    I'll join Leopold and will raise this issue with our editor to publish a news about this to let players know about this.

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    Well,

    a Bwin support statement was, that it's an animation. Now they claim it's a Slingshot 2 wheel made by Cammegh.

    I know Slingshot wheels. Here you can see a real (!) Slingshot 2 wheel in action:



    And now watch again Progger's 2nd video and compare the wheels. The ball moving system is the same but it looks not real.

    The real Slingshot wheel are free to be rigged. From Casino Regulatory Authority of Singapore "The cylinder shall be constructed and designed to rotate and move freely of its own accord"

    Cammegh's unique ARC (Active Rotor Control changes rotor speed after "no more bets".

    From every real live dealer the place is known, where he is sitting or standing in the moment when the ball is spinning, e.g. Malta or Lavtia.
    And with this thing?

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    before the wheel is spun or after the wheel has begun to spin, a random number generator selects a rondom outcome of a roulette game event outcome"

    http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2014/0015194.html

    Anyway, you see it's a fraud because for a real live game "a random number generator" is not allowed for a fair game.

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    Hello guys.


    i found a Youtube video with some interesting details --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iumD4amuk0
    and i ask Josh my old friend about the wheel in my first video --> and he say "It is a real roulette wheel in a live studio."


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    /start off-topic (sorry I couldn't resist)
    that I need obviously 3 reincarantions to take care about it ... but my wife comes first.
    Your wife does in fact one of your other self's for her own correct?
    /end off topic

    I am interested to see what you guys write up about this....

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    Hello =)


    I believe this is the same game if it is an Evolution Gaming Roulette table: https://www.evolutiongaming.com/live-roulette-0
    Scroll down to Sling Shot Auto Roulette on the page.
    https://www.evolutiongaming.com/sites/default/files/styles/product_big_preview/public/slingshot_4.jpg?itok=5ANAC3Vs

    https://www.google.de/search?q=Sling...w=1600&bih=800

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    Sometimes I think roulette, or at least some types of roulette, is a more sophisticated version of slots
    Like Airbal electronic roulette, rapid roulette etc.
    More spins per hour, less wages for croupiers, more control over the outcome, more money for the casinos...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ares View Post
    Sometimes I think roulette, or at least some types of roulette, is a more sophisticated version of slots
    Like Airbal electronic roulette, rapid roulette etc.
    More spins per hour, less wages for croupiers, more control over the outcome, more money for the casinos...

    It's all a matter of payouts, in roulette the one (and in some roulette versions the two) zeros are heeling the chances to be in favor of the casino so allegedly roulette has "better" winning chances than slots... this is why roulette systems are more popular

    But both are gambling at the end...

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    Interesting update on Airball Roulette

    Regarding this German article ( http://www.dertrend.com/multi_roulet..._automaten.php
    ) a former director of a real casino in Germany describes how surprised he was, when he found out, that the profit made by the air ball (In German we call it "Multi Roulette" or "Touchbet Roulette") was at a double-digit level.

    Hello?!

    The house edge at Airball Roulette is 2,7%, and there is no way, even not with any standard deviations, that this profit can be on a double-digit level after a longer distance. If a player would be aware of that story of the director, she/he would believe, there must be any manipulation or that at least the outcome of the game is not the result of real physically coincidence. She/he will believe, Airball Roulette is nothing else than some kind of slot machine.

    The story about the director is no fake news. I have researched it and spoke with named sources who confirms it.

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