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    Thumbs down Bilan affiliations belges

    Bonjour à tous
    Me revoilà avec mes soucis d'affiliations belges..quelle galère ce marché ....Tout a fait ok avec Triple7...

    Pour ma part hormis GoldenPalace qui répond très vite et où les commissions commencent à être sympa (Petit Hic c'est le paiement en fin de mois.) ..le reste au secours !!!!


    Goldenvegas : rien à dire niveau ouvertures de comptes et dépôts , beaucoup de négatif mais ca devrait changer.. par contre service client trés lent et paiements aussi ..

    Luckygame: Beaucoup de nouveaux joueurs mais pas de dépôts.. jamais contacter le service client.

    Mycasinoshare: Assez réactif et nombreux nouveaux joueurs mais peu de dépôts.
    Magic wins: Support pour les factures et c'est tout. Deal à 45€ le CPA avec des conditions de fou, du coup très peu de CPA mais beaucoup d'inscriptions ...

    LivePartners: Support ok. Bannières les plus cliquées sur mon site car bonus sans dépôt attractif et pourtant très très peu d'inscriptions. C'est le programme qui marche le moins bien ... Allez savoir pourquoi ????

    Unibet, Betway, Bwin et ladbrokes: rien, que dalle ... peu d'inscriptions

    Circus: Ok , nouveau manager très réactif ....

    Tradetracker: Commissions minables et PalladiumGames n'a rien validés depuis 4 mois !!!!! Malgré les relances à Tradetracker toujours rien....

    Gambling Affiliation: Rien à dire, quand les commissions sont validées, ils payent vite...
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    I am not very good in French, so I react in English.

    Golden Palace: conversion is ok, but not very happy with retention.

    Lucky Games: a lot of new accounts, poor conversion to depositors. It's an online gambling hall on the Gaming1-platform, hence poor customer services, high fees and I doubt if the stats are working correctly. Retention also not good.

    Golden Vegas: same as Lucky Games, but a better conversion.

    My Casino Share: a lot of new accounts, poor conversion and poor retention. I'm put back at the standard deal because they were not happy with the results. That's not the way it should work.

    Magic Wins: low CPA with insane conditions, they're having rev. share but are very sceptical to put you on RS. The response time of support desk is very poor.

    Live Partners: works the best in Belgium for me. The affiliate program is another kettle of fish. Those 3-month-contracts all the time are annoying, so is the NCO that we were kind of forced to accept. Although it works well for me, it's not a partnership as it could be.

    Unibet: not so much new accounts, very low conversion. It seems most people have an account at Unibet already. The affiliate manager is very cooperative. If it would work better for me, I would give them top exposure for sure.

    BWin: blacklisted, don't want to work with them.

    Betway: I don't trust in their stats anymore. For a relatively new casino, their conversion is way too poor. It seems they're not putting too much energy anymore in Belgium.

    Ladbrokes: positive developments, as they have appointed a new Belgian affiliate manager who is very cooperative. A good thing after cooperation with Ladbrokes Israel was almost impossible.

    Circus: works relatively well, Netrefer instead of their own platform, which is a good thing. A con is the affiliate management. I never hear from them, response times are very low.

    Tradetracker: They pay on time, they respond fast but a CPL of € 3,50 is not very interesting of course.

    Gambling Affiliation: I am going to start with them now. I prefer working with them instead of with various smaller programs in different countries.

    Grand Games: is part of Karamba Partners, hence predatory terms, poor affiliate management, etc.

    Carousel: I don't trust their stats, never hear from them, don't show up at appointments at conferences, etc.

    Casino Belgium: like Magic Wins but worse (€ 15 CPA). Never hear anything from them.

    Panache: reportedly stats don't work. No idea if anybody is generating money for them. They don't seem to be interested in this affiliate program.

    Others do not have an affiliate program or just stop it sometimes. I must say in general it's a very poor market for affiliates, not just because it's quite saturated but also because of the quality and morals of various affiliate programs.

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    yes it's cool for Ladbrokes but no news , do you know when the new affiliate program for Labrokes.be will be ready ? and can you give me an email to contact the new Belgian affiliate manager ?
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    I don't know. It should have been ready already. The new affiliate manager is Noel de Weert. I don't have his e-email address but he can be found with this name at Skype. He told me that he doesn't want to make any promises anymore about when the affiliate program is ready, but it should be ready anyway in August.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loul07 View Post
    Bonjour à tous
    LivePartners: Support ok. Bannières les plus cliquées sur mon site car bonus sans dépôt attractif et pourtant très très peu d'inscriptions. C'est le programme qui marche le moins bien ... Allez savoir pourquoi ????

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    Hello,

    C'est pour toutes langues ou simplement be?
    Je trouve que j'ai peu d'inscriptions.

    Merci.

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    bonjour
    moi je travaille que pour le .be
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    Quote Originally Posted by loul07 View Post
    bonjour
    moi je travaille que pour le .be
    Ok, Merci beaucoup

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    Today I took Betway off, leaving just 4 A+-casinos (Unibet, Casino 777, Ladbrokes and Circus).

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    aah i think you're right and i'll do the same, for the moment i keep the review for seo but i will remove their links. And i'll do it for some B+ casinos too.
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    Reviews I keep, but I take them off my top list and I close down usually the links.

    Ladbrokes changed their license, which means that their won't be a new online casino on Dinant license. Middelkerke is bought by Napoleon. Casino Brussels is for sale. Buyer will be probably Napoleon Games or Golden Palace. In the last case Golden Palace would be able to improve their games selection. It would also mean that Betway won't have a license anymore. Which is a good thing ofc.

    ****** market like this. Just Casino 777 and Unibet are serious casinos, of which Unibet is very saturated already.

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    hello triple7
    Do you have news about Ladbrokes.be and their new affiliate program ????
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    No, at AAC they told me they don't want to promise anything anymore, but that it should be ready in August. We're September now and it's still a mess.

    Aff manager contacted me for a promo, but no news about my account (he thought it should be active right now) or ladbrokespartners.be.

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    Account at Casino Belgium is locked. They say I have to ask Gaming 1 and Gaming 1 doesn't reply. Bunch of jokers.

    Lately Golden Vegas and Carousel are paying very late. Financial troubles? Lucky Games is even in default at my paymens, waiting more than 3 months now.

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    ah bad news but same for me ,. With goldenvegase I get paid but you have to send the invoice 2 or 3 times. If Jordan answers you get paid right now. But that's not always the case. For luckygame, I can not log on the affiliate platform for 2 months, i get a "Run time error" .... I will remove them from my site because no response from them.

    my Belgian casino list is decreasing more and more
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    Every month I have to resend the invoices to some casinos because the are not paying the invoices.

    This week I received the payment for a 2016 invoice.
    We only promote regulated brands in Belgium and the Netherlands
    Legale online casino's Nederland - iGaming4u.nl
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    Quote Originally Posted by loul07 View Post
    ah bad news but same for me ,. With goldenvegase I get paid but you have to send the invoice 2 or 3 times. If Jordan answers you get paid right now. But that's not always the case. For luckygame, I can not log on the affiliate platform for 2 months, i get a "Run time error" .... I will remove them from my site because no response from them.

    my Belgian casino list is decreasing more and more
    I have 5 left, including Bwin. Bwin smells fishy, but so far against me they've been correct.

    Other four are Ladbrokes, Casino 777, Golden Palace and Unibet. Of which Unibet converts very difficult.

    With Lucky Game I have to contact. They do not react, even not when I reply to their promos at Twitter. Golden Vegas still did not pay some months and no idea what's Jordan doing. I didn't hear from him for months.

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    En Belge francophone.
    Franchement, l'affiliation en Belgique dans le secteur du gambling online est une plaisanterie, aucun opérateur sérieux arrive à procurer des résultats acceptables pour un affilié. Ils privilégient des canaux qui sont autres que les sites affiliés (tv, radio, adwords, sites de paris sportifs d'envergure).
    Pour ma part j'ai jeté l'éponge sur le marché belge, malgré que j'y avais des positions valables (Google ranking).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boc View Post
    En Belge francophone.
    Franchement, l'affiliation en Belgique dans le secteur du gambling online est une plaisanterie, aucun opérateur sérieux arrive à procurer des résultats acceptables pour un affilié. Ils privilégient des canaux qui sont autres que les sites affiliés (tv, radio, adwords, sites de paris sportifs d'envergure).
    Pour ma part j'ai jeté l'éponge sur le marché belge, malgré que j'y avais des positions valables (Google ranking).
    Ce n'est pas seulement l'affiliation belge, pour l'UK c'est pas mieux.
    Les grosses affiliations font de la promo a tout va et evidemment ils ajoutent des termes et conditions,
    que tu as du mal a respecter, vu que les joueurs vont directement sur le site. Bref!

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    Anybody has a contact at Lucky Games?

    I get no reply at all and no payments. I know their gambling hall changed owner end of 2017, but that's no reason to do so.
    It seems that it's transformed in F**** Up Games.

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    same here, remove them from your site, they never reply and pay any commission since the beginning ..... i remove them since about 4 month...
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