Bodog affiliates are pissin me off - application process

[Nodepositworld]

Does Bodog feel they are the Gods of online affiliate programs or what? First they deny me access to the affiliate program when I ran my first forum. Then I tried again as i worked on a different forum and again they said no. Then I tried with Sam the casino man site and they said no. Now I am trying to get into their program with a new site that just opened and after 3 emails between me and them they now want information on what I can bring for traffic and what my statagy is and if I have other sites and blah blah blah. Hey Bodog, Ive been an affiliate for almost 10 frickin years. I think I deserve a yes or a no. You know what ,screw ya. I dont want to promote a place that causes me such grief just so I can get a few banners for my site. Tell me I cant join the program , who the hell does this program think they are? Go get promoted on the sites with 50 rogues on their website ass clowns.

[universal4]

I have always thought they felt they were above us.

I never even bother to apply to them any more, there are plenty of other programs out there that RESPECT affiliates no matter how big or how small they are.

I have said this many times, but here it is again.

Additional affiliates, small or large, active or not, COST you nothing, but the "Lack of Affiliates" can cost you dearly.

Rick
Universal4

[Betpartners]

I have always thought they felt they were above us.

I never even bother to apply to them any more, there are plenty of other programs out there that RESPECT affiliates no matter how big or how small they are.

I have said this many times, but here it is again.

Additional affiliates, small or large, active or not, COST you nothing, but the "Lack of Affiliates" can cost you dearly.

Rick
Universal4

Never a truer word said Rick

But you know mate, simple things just pass people by

[Nodepositworld]

Ya no kidding. I mean who are they to say no to me? I run a good site and work hard but they feel they would rather send out numerous auto emails to me than just say yes and let me start working for them. Well you loss ass clowns.

[jarvi]

Bodog are free to choose who they wish to work with and who they don't, so technically they can say no to you. I'm sure you have said no to more than a few programs so why should if be any different from their point of view?

I think there is a very good reason I have never received one piece of spam in relation to Bodog. Not saying any of the participants in this thread do that and just an observation.

I am definitely a small affiliate with them so that it not necessarily the case. That said, I have been with them since day one so perhaps it was different back then.

If you have been unsuccessful in you application, perhaps you energies would be better spent looking for another program to join. Or, if you are that keen to work with them, try to understand what they want because I doubt by calling them out here that they will be more inclined to work with you.

[Nodepositworld]

The point is they never even bothered to look at my site or 90% of their questions would have been answered. Instead they just hit the auto reply button. You are totally right though, they can choose who they want and they don't want me which is fine. My efforts can be focused elsewhere and for the record I have never sent out a piece of spam in my life ( just saying )

[jarvi]

Fair enough and perhaps they could get the details from your site. That said, if I was them, I'd ask for it rather than look for myself. Just easier that way and if the like the details provided they can then check out the site(s). Perhaps they want people to jump through a few hoops just to weed out those that apply to every program under the sun and don't really do much else.

Of course this could all be answered much better by the folks at Bodog. Looking forward to hearing why they go a different route to most other programs with the application process.

[livefree247]

Hi I have also applied twice and was denied this was the last message I got from bodogbecky


Hey Rhonda,

Ok, I heard back from the affiliates guys and it's what I suspected...the affiliate site you applied with did not meet the Bodog Affiliates "standards" (this simply means lots of banners, not tons of content, etc). This is not the end of the world though, because one of two things can happen....if you can build a case as to why a partnership with Bodog Affiliates would be beneficial for both parties, I'm more than happy to communicate it back to the team for evaluation. Also, if you decide to make improvements, updates, and changes to your existing site, please apply to Bodog Affiliates at that time as they will be happy to re-evaluate for you.

I know this sounds like a huge pain, but it's just the way the Bodog Affiliates team works.
Let me know what you think about the above and we'll go from there...

Becky


BTW My sites are not full of banners!!
I have good content also..... I dont spam and I dont push shady casinos I will not beg any affiliate program, also 3dice dose the same thing they pick and choose who gets to promote them

[thepokerkeep]

Hi I have also applied twice and was denied this was the last message I got from bodogbecky


Hey Rhonda,

Ok, I heard back from the affiliates guys and it's what I suspected...the affiliate site you applied with did not meet the Bodog Affiliates "standards" (this simply means lots of banners, not tons of content, etc). This is not the end of the world though, because one of two things can happen....if you can build a case as to why a partnership with Bodog Affiliates would be beneficial for both parties, I'm more than happy to communicate it back to the team for evaluation. Also, if you decide to make improvements, updates, and changes to your existing site, please apply to Bodog Affiliates at that time as they will be happy to re-evaluate for you.

I know this sounds like a huge pain, but it's just the way the Bodog Affiliates team works.
Let me know what you think about the above and we'll go from there...

Becky


BTW My sites are not full of banners!!
I have good content also..... I dont spam and I dont push shady casinos I will not beg any affiliate program, also 3dice dose the same thing they pick and choose who gets to promote them

Hi Rhonda,
Just a heads up - your site onlinesexyslots is not loading.... getting a broken link message when I try to visit.

[thepokerkeep]

I don't know what the criteria is but when I applied last year it was quick and painless and I was accepted within a day or two. It will be interesting to hear what criteria they base their decisions on.....

[sipka]

Actually I felt the exact opposite when I applied to Bodog.
It was 1 year ago, so I'm not sure about the automated emails now, but back then my manager asked me a few interesting questions that first I found weird, but on a second thought they were just inquiries and they were interested about how I think about things and how I plan to promote them.

We affiliates usually emphasize the "partnership" element with programs so what is the bad thing with a program that is wanting to know more about us for a change?
When they know more, then they can help me grow. If they know what I want to achieve then they can help me climb that ladder more efficiently. What is wrong with this?

[GCG]

For all what is worth : I try not to list programs with a NCO such as Bodog.

I tried to get on board in the past, failed but never looked back. There are some other good options to choose from.

Besides that I do not like their promo texts : Play hard play Bodog.

And ....... there are no Gods in online gaming........4 sure !.

[Chips]

What really disturbs me is the fact that Bodog is hosting the OFC and ANY affiliate will be approved. This opens the floodgates for every freeroll whore that has a piece of shit banner farm freeroll forum able to post up banners, spam the sweet living hell out of people and really run the program in the dirt.

I had the three email queries a few years back and was accepted. Pumact runs one heck of a GREAT website yet no one takes that into consideration. Any affiliate manager with a lick of sense would look at his site and be asking HIM what it would take to be listed on HIS site.

I have a ton of respect for the Bodog brand and the program has been super for me both for growth and income. I always respected the way they were so selective of who gets to promote them.

Until now... The OFC (Sorry Jason if you read this) is NOT going to bring them the kind of affiliates that they built the brand with. It will open up a can of stinking worms though.

So to the powers of Bodog:

How can open the process up to any moron with a webpage (notice I said "page" not site) yet some of the most respected members of our community can't get an approval?

Sounds backwards to me.

[jschmuch]

I don't really have much of an opinion on this but do think its not a big deal to answer a few questions and if they approve you great, if not oh well, use the space to promote someone else.

They must have really changed the process though because when I signed up with them back in 2007 my site was on a free domain with 10 pages of banners and all they asked was why I wanted to promote them when I was already promoting the other 10 rooms "something about saturation", I answered and they approved me.

I'm not sure about the whole OFC thing, they don't review sub affiliate applications?

[Chips]

I'm not sure about the whole OFC thing, they don't review sub affiliate applications?

Not an sub-affiliate deal, but it is wide open to get an account.

From the OFC website here:

Bodog does not accept all affiliates in to their program, but GGE has made a special arrangement with them so that they unanimously approve any affiliate that wishes to promote the OFC. If you do not have an affiliate account with Bodog already, please carefully follow the instructions below.

HOW TO SIGN UP AN AFFILIATE ACCOUNT WITH BODOG:
Please sign up a new account with Bodog here: http://bodogaffiliate.com/join/.

Please note: You MUST put the letters "OFC" in the “How did you hear about us” box. If you do not add this to the box, there is no guarantee your account will be approved. Once you are approved, grab some links, post them on your site, email them to your player database, and tell them all about our next OFC Events.

Your Bodog Affiliate Manager will be evaluating your performance during the OFC pre-registration period, as well as after the OFC Events. They will be in contact with you directly during this time to discuss how you can both succeed together.

Sounds like the flood gates are open to me...

[jschmuch]

Wow, I must have overlooked that one.

Sounds like there wide open.

Not an sub-affiliate deal, but it is wide open to get an account.

From the OFC website here:



Sounds like the flood gates are open to me...

[Richard-Bodog]

As many of you have noted, the Bodog affiliate program does not accept all affiliates like many other programs. The reason behind this is that we find in our business, like many others, that there are a small percentage of partners who make up a large percent of our business. So, we’ve made the conscious decision to focus our efforts on a fewer number of partners and build stronger relationships to increase revenues for both parties.

Universal4 – you commented that accepting additional affiliates has no cost. We’ve found there are additional costs in terms of resources (time) the more affiliates that we accept. Like every business, there’s only a finite bandwidth, and additional affiliates require more support that can divert our attention from other partners. We want to ensure that we are dedicated and focused on the relationships with affiliates we’ve chosen to do business with and identified as strategic partners.

In terms of the acceptance process, when reviewing websites there are many factors that we look at. We understand that you can’t necessarily judge a book by its cover so that’s why we ask a few questions which we hope can give us some insight into your business. If we feel your business plan fits within our strategy then we are excited to accept you into our program and work with you to grow. There are a number of our top partners who gave us some insight into their business plan early on, and with that knowledge we’ve built what I believe to be a stronger and more successful partnership.

As for the affiliates that work with us through the OFC promotion; their accounts will be reviewed during and at the end of the promotion to determine whether they are a suitable fit with our program and whether the partnership is working.

With all of that said, we understand that affiliates have choices and the industry is a competitive one. That’s why we are continuing to build our program to provide our existing partners and new partners who perform with the best possible service and account management.

Pumacat – obviously our application process has fallen short in terms of explaining our position to you; I’ll be reviewing the process to ensure that its clear and professional. I always welcome feedback and if you have any questions please feel free to PM me.

Cheers,
Richard

[Nodepositworld]

You can give us the nice explanation as you have done in your post above but that does not explain your automated emails that you send out to your applicants. You speak of the importance of a good business relationship and yet the affiliate program does not take the time to view the sites that are applying. If you did take the time to visit my site you would have know in the first 5 seconds that I promote to players from the UK, Canada, Germany and the USA. You would also see that I use emails via a newsletter to promote my products. You would also see in the first 5 seconds that I provide Roulette and Blackjack promotions and have done very well in the seo aspect of the site.

But instead you hit the auto reply button for a third time and caused me grief as well as all other excellent affiliates who may have applied. To say you only have the resources to tend to a certain number of affiliates and maintain a good working focus is pure BS and he is why. When you limit yourself to fewer affiliates you make less money. Its a fact that most companies with more affiliates make more earnings. Take the extra money the extra affiliates have earned for the Bodog company and hire extra employees.

Pumacat – obviously our application process has fallen short in terms of explaining our position to you

Understatement of the year. Your application process has fallen short of explanation to most that have applied.

[nitro]

Y To say you only have the resources to tend to a certain number of affiliates and maintain a good working focus is pure BS and he is why. When you limit yourself to fewer affiliates you make less money. Its a fact that most companies with more affiliates make more earnings...

You will make more because if you give the banners to all and sundry you will create an image that this industry is run by amateurs. Just take a look how a typical affiliate site looks like and the number of them and considering their SEO efforts it can be safely said that affiliates are responsible for the image creation since the vast majority of people comes in contact with the stuff through the internet only and that what you see is usually as many banners as possible lying around like crap so people believe it's cheap as trash...(BTW i was banned on an other forum by universal4 for having said that the audience that the affiliates target would have come anyway since the affs are almost exclusively concerned about SEO and nothing else so it doesn't matter if there are let say 25.000 gambling websites or 2.000 or so because the number of potential gamblers always remains the same and the fewer the affiliates the more professional they can become)

[universal4]

Ntro,

That is NOT why you were banned, and that discussion does NOT belong in here.

This thread is about Bodog.

Rick