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    Default Buffalo Partners Horse Sh!t - yet another Microgaming Screw Job

    This month I saw my revenue was a bit low compared to the deposits as usual so after investigating the reports I see I am now on 25% revshare! After Making a lifetime deal with Cobus way back and yet another agreement with Nelson at the start of Buffalo partners I have been placed on 25% revshare due to not delivering enough new players per month! This week i sent 4, but I need a minimum of 30 per month to just get off 25%! No matter the deposits are over 10K every month, that doesn't matter, just new depositors!

    Like Fortune Affiliates, Brightshare and the other big groups, revenue does not seem to matter, simply new depositors is the goldmine even though 30 may bring in $500 in monthly revenue only? Is there an absolute Idiot running these programs or is it a way to just shut down all affiliates that dont bring in 300K a month revenue?

    I know they shave and cut as I have seen the videos and the bounce from here but I just need to get this out there for my own sanity.
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    Putting together quite a list of discussions that is going to Betway and the licensing showing intent to defraud, Doubt much will happen but its worth a shot to at least get the Licensing in questioning.
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    I have the feeling that some of the aff programs including Fortune & Buffalo are totally disconnected from the reality. Just a reminder that we are not in the early 2000's and they do not dominate the market There are hundreds of operators to chose from these days and if they are not open to negotiate deals and keep their promises, they are going to disappear from the market. Just remember Europartners - they were the strongest group in the mid 2000's but due to bad management decisions and affiliate scamming they are over. This is just my friendly advice to the management of the above programs (if they read the forum of course ...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by allfreechips View Post
    I know they shave and cut as I have seen the videos and the bounce from here but I just need to get this out there for my own sanity.
    Which videos are you referring to? APCW?

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    Which videos are you referring to? APCW?
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    Welcome to the club.

    An imbecile there who used to work for WagerShare who we had specifically requested by name not to manage our account when they took over Referback recently emailed us. They complained about the "steady decline" in activity on our account and announced they were cutting our rev share the same as you. I replied with stats and a graph showing that activity had in fact increased on the account over the past 2 years. After being made to look like the idiot that they are, they changed tack and asked for proof of the agreed rev share deal we had in place, no doubt expecting that since it was made so long ago we wouldn't be able to provide it. The problem was we had the proof. So I was then told they would take it to management and discuss. That was in March. Since then all I have heard is the crickets chirping and our rate has been cut.

    Like Fortune Affiliates, Brightshare and the other big groups, revenue does not seem to matter, simply new depositors is the goldmine even though 30 may bring in $500 in monthly revenue only? Is there an absolute Idiot running these programs or is it a way to just shut down all affiliates that dont bring in 300K a month revenue?
    Actually revenue is exactly what matters. They have been around for 15+ years and it seems to me there has been a deliberate strategic shift from these Microgaming backed programs to hold and go with what they have instead of pursuing growth. They have all cut their affiliate commissions and gained an immediate and substantial boost to their revenue without doing a thing. Buffalo, Fortune, Brightshare have all done the same thing. Star Partner are jumping ship to a multi-platform provider, as have GoWild. 32 Red have sold out. They have been left behind and they know it, at this stage its just a matter of managing the decline.

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    I have the deals from cobus and buffalo partners, the response from Dmitri skype : removed per request

    We have never been able to conclude lifetime deals due to the multiple uncertainties in various markets that can potentially occur. I regret that you feel this way, but this is out of my hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muppet View Post
    Actually revenue is exactly what matters. They have been around for 15+ years and it seems to me there has been a deliberate strategic shift from these Microgaming backed programs to hold and go with what they have instead of pursuing growth.
    Exactly. Fortune, Buffalo and Brightshare are in huge decline. The mentioned groups are trying to "optimize" their profit and earn as much as they can because they are not sure for how long will be able to survive in the industry. They see the end coming.

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    Industry is shrinking and therefore these things we have never seen before.
    Affiliates are strong enough top over come all this mess

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    And do you have some problem since the yesterday update , i got a new purchasing player the 2/06 and they cancel it after the update ...and their contact form don't work....

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    The warnings about working with the likes of Buffalo Partners and the other programs are all over the this forum and other forums as well. These programs has been ripping of affiliates for a very long time with there ridiculous quotas, You are lucky to get 25% and not 5%.

    Sometimes we have to cut our loses for a better end result.
    Affiliates need to stop working with a lot of these programs and watch them die a slow death.

    I know it's tough building up a player base and have to leave it behind but nothing is going to change with these programs. If you continue to send them players and then stop the same thing is going to happen.

    The Big Question Is.... Where Do You Draw The Line With These Programs?
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