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    "I wrote emails to tech department about this case"

    Do you have copies of the emails and is it possible to publish the headers?
    You know, that there is no general excuse for opening more than one account.
    I don't know how many casinos are on the Russian market, but there are more than one?

    The emails would at least prove your efforts to avoid the opening of more accounts.
    The money is gone, but you can perhaps give the overall picture of your situation more strength.

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    Dear community,

    Today at night Casino-X was ddos’ed. After 2 hours of attack we have got a mail from Topic starter with all his details.
    See screenshot. http://prntscr.com/crne21 (his personal details are hidden, but can open them if @retracted agrees)

    In his letter he blackmails us. He confirms that it’s he who is behind ddos and promises to continue attacking. Moreover, he takes responsibility for the incident in the public thread http://ttrblog.su/forum/threads/otka...-22#post-54778 here is a screenshot https://gyazo.com/e654f389b64f135ff3092bc547468c1f

    Now you see the person who you are supporting.

    We are looking for justice and equal attitude towards all the parties.

    P. S. If more evidences are needed, we are ready to send them to GPWA administration any time.

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    It's your way of failed casino management, not mine.

    If you are making such aggressive promotions but also aggressive attempts to refuse chashouts then it is only a matter of time until you will be a target of a special group. A serious casino will never be attacked - if your story is true - because they are treating their customers fair and with farsight and not like you do.

    By the way: An email without complete header data is worthless if you are talking about DDoS.

    Regarding the blackmail you should simply look into your own affiliate blackmail terms.
    We have some sayings here in Germany:
    "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you." and "Don't throw bricks when you live in a glass house."

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    If more evidences are needed, we are ready to send them to GPWA administration any time."

    I have seen so many fabricated evidence in this industry the last years that only an independent forensic analyze can be accepted.

    Leopold

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    Whether the email is real or not I do not know,as I have personally not witnessed the proof of that, however, in my opinion even if the affiliate program has the worst terms on the planet, performing the DDOS or blackmailing anyone based upon the DDOS is unethical and criminal in itself and I can not and will not condone that. (poor terms or terms that affiliates disagree with is justification for not promoting a group, and maybe exposing such terms to other affiliates, but that is where it should end)

    Looking at the post made at that forum that was shown did not appear that responsibility for the hack was assumed, but it could be that Google translator did not properly do its job with the meaning of the post.

    I have no idea what the email says as it is not in a format that i can easily translate.

    Regardless, NONE of the above whether true or not, and no dispute between affected parties justifies ANY DDOS attack of ANY kind and those behind such attacks, or those willing to take responsibility for such attacks should be caught and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

    I personally think the entire situation when it unfolded was handled very poorly by both parties, but NONE of that justifies DDOS attacks, of any party.

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    "Whether the email is real or not I do not know,as I have personally not witnessed the proof of that"

    Thank you for clarifying this. There is only the way of an independent, forensic investigation and not a hush-hush lookover.
    This is the least handling of an DDoS accusation.

    "even if the affiliate program has the worst terms on the planet"

    Exactly, even with "the worst terms on the planet" and even if GPWA don't care about boomerang terms like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    Whether the email is real or not I do not know,as I have personally not witnessed the proof of that, however, in my opinion even if the affiliate program has the worst terms on the planet, performing the DDOS or blackmailing anyone based upon the DDOS is unethical and criminal in itself and I can not and will not condone that. (poor terms or terms that affiliates disagree with is justification for not promoting a group, and maybe exposing such terms to other affiliates, but that is where it should end)

    Looking at the post made at that forum that was shown did not appear that responsibility for the hack was assumed, but it could be that Google translator did not properly do its job with the meaning of the post.

    I have no idea what the email says as it is not in a format that i can easily translate.

    Regardless, NONE of the above whether true or not, and no dispute between affected parties justifies ANY DDOS attack of ANY kind and those behind such attacks, or those willing to take responsibility for such attacks should be caught and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

    I personally think the entire situation when it unfolded was handled very poorly by both parties, but NONE of that justifies DDOS attacks, of any party.

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    Hi Rick,

    If you provide your email, I can forward the letter right now.

    Moreover, ddos-attack continues today. I know, that it's serious accusation, but we have all the proofs.

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    You are absolutely right, Leopold. This wouldn’t happen if Caterine paid my full win, instead of changing the rules on the go (I have the proof of that), and paying only 140 000 rubles.
    By doing this you – you confirmed that my winning is legal. You decided not to give me the full amount, hoping that it will work, but it didn’t.
    In all big European casinos I wouldn’t have problems like that. If my win was illegal – you wouldn’t pay me nothing!! However you have paid me a small amount of money, and by doing this you have confirmed that my win is fully legal. And straight after that you have started to change the rules and complain that you are poor.
    If you did in in appropriate way nothing would have happened. By writing a post about how poor you are and that everybody tortures you, you have proved that there is nothing RIGHT about you. You have showed again that you cannot act honorable and proved that your casino is nothing but a joke, that doesn’t have a good managements and settings of IT resources.
    There are many proofs that I have won legally and that you have changed your rules after that on the net after this case.
    You have now two options. First one is to continue to make this issue public and make more advertisement of your casino (however your ad is already everywhere and it annoys a lot of Russian customers). Second one is to start a proper conversation with me in a private way. This is up to you.

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    Hello retracted,

    I am still waiting for ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Roulette Zeitung View Post
    "I wrote emails to tech department about this case"

    Do you have copies of the emails and is it possible to publish the headers?
    You know, that there is no general excuse for opening more than one account.
    I don't know how many casinos are on the Russian market, but there are more than one?

    The emails would at least prove your efforts to avoid the opening of more accounts.
    Leopold

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roulette Zeitung View Post
    Hello retracted,

    I am still waiting for ...


    Leopold
    Dear Leopold, unfortunately there are no emails. We had a conversation in a support chat. I didn’t think that I would have such a problem, and because of that I didn’t take any screenshots and didn’t save our chat conversation. This is , perhaps, the stupidest thing that I have done. However according to the similar situation with other players that have won money these screenshots wouldn’t help anyway. The administration of CASINO X just change the rules all the time , and that’s the end of the story!. And the rules are written in a “double-meaning” way : ADMINISTRATION HAS THE RIGHT TO BLOCK ACCOUNT meaning they might or might not do it.


    I tried to solve the problem in a friendly way. I have given all the information that they required. As you know the result is negative. They refused me


    Also I would like to mention one interesting fact. They blamed me in abuse (bonus cheating). But I don’t think that a bonus cheater makes deposits of ~ 10 thousands US dollar. Would a bonus cheater create a similar account as the one he already has?!
    I can tell more. Some time ago if you wanted to change your currency in CASINO X you had to create a double account. And this was according to their rules. However I know a case when even after that players still didn’t receive their wins.

    P/S:
    All that CASINO X does is trying to find a way how to not pay the winning money to a player. Check what people write on other forums. This casino lies to their players and partners all the time, and if there is a small issue they start to blackmail immediately.

    How can you trust people who lie to everybody?!
    How can you trust people who make fake screenshots?!
    How can you trust people who change their own rules everytime?!
    In my opinion you should block this casino until they pay the wins to every single winning player!

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    "Dear Leopold, unfortunately there are no emails."

    Alrighty!
    Then my stay in this thread comes to an end.

    I wish you much success
    for the future.
    Once again ... Nothing is like it seems and our everyday surrounding offers the most quaint and memorable approaches.

    Leopold

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