Clarification of Commission Model - Percentage of Theoretical Loss

[hellboy]

This affiliante is not soo good...

on the hompage...
- True 35% commission for all affiliates
No hidden fees means (......) for you! <<<========press the link

- True 35% Wager Model
Receive 35% of the players' wagered (......) amount. <<<<====press the link



1.30% is what you earn from what the player wager on slots... LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EDITOR'S NOTE:

This thread emerged from a separate discussion about Rewards' Affiliates acquisition of Playshare Partners. In order to prevent the two discussions from distracting from one another, we've separated them out into two different threads.

The original thread is available at http://www.gpwa.org/forum/huge-annou...ds-195699.html.

[Nodepositworld]

This affiliante is not soo good...

on the hompage...
- True 35% commission for all affiliates
No hidden fees means (......) for you! <<<========press the link

- True 35% Wager Model
Receive 35% of the players' wagered (......) amount. <<<<====press the link

I'm sorry but you kind of lost me as to what you are referring to. What do you mean?

[hellboy]

I'm sorry but you kind of lost me as to what you are referring to. What do you mean?

read you everything I posted???
do you think... "1.30% is what you earn from what the player wager on slots... LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Its my signature?
delete your signature for its 89% of your messagebox.

Go to the affiliatepage them have and press the links

and the quatro casino them promote is a joke.
you get free €100 and scratch with... when you shall start play with the winnings from that you need first deposit...

on the mainpage them have write...
$100 Worth of Scratch Cards FREE
Quatro Casino is offering you a massive $100 Worth of Scratch Cards FREE. It's all for free and you get to keep any money you win! There is no deposit required so you've got absolutely nothing to lose.



I LOOSE MY TIME BEACUSE I MOST DEPOSIT LATER SO I CAN PLAY WITH THE WINNINGS!!!!!!! FUCKING SICK PROMOTIN THEM HAVE!

them write you can deposit $1... wtf... you most always deposit minium $20?

[Nodepositworld]

Ah a boozer ! Anybody wanna pool how long till he gets banned? I have 2 days max......

[hellboy]

Ah a boozer ! Anybody wanna pool how long till he gets banned? I have 2 days max......

are your hobby sit here and promote with your signature?

[Daera]

If you don't like the New Player Promotion that Quatro offers, then don't promote it. Choose a one of the other casinos in the Rewards Affiliate Program. I think there's 22 different casinos to choose from. They don't all have the same New Player Promotion. Find a casino that has a different opening offer.

Have you tried talking to your affiliate manager from Rewards about this? That's always a good thing to do as sometimes after talking to them you might find it's a pretty good group to work with. Never know.

Pumacat has been a member here since 2005, and with over 1100 posts, he's not sitting here trying to promote with his signature. I've known him online here at the forums for a long time, and he's very passionate about this business, and very genuine.

[hellboy]

1.30% is what you earn from what the player wager on slots... so I think i dont will promote RA!!! Its 10 times better promote anoter place there you can earn on people...why waste on the people? Better let them find a place there youself can earn money

[Nodepositworld]

are your hobby sit here and promote with your signature?

My hobby is to use this forum as a resource as it is intended. If that means showing a signature to show affiliate programs what I'm working on then so be it.

[universal4]

hellboy,

I think Daera had a very good suggestion to talk to your affiliate manager at Rewards.

I don't think you completly understand the wager model they have and maybe after a discussion with your manager you might better understand it.

That model is not so good for a player that deposits 200 bucks, plays it off quick and leaves, but if that same player ends up playing that 200 off over the course of weeks and weeks (because they win some, play it off, win some more play it off etc..) the commission from that 200 can actually end up making you more than standard commission models other programs offer.

I have actually taken numbers from other programs and plugged them into what I would have made with the same players at Rewards and some times I would have made less with RA and sometimes I would have made a lot more.

Just don't be so quick to judge without first talking to them a bit more.

Rick
Universal4

[hellboy]

hellboy,

I think Daera had a very good suggestion to talk to your affiliate manager at Rewards.

I don't think you completly understand the wager model they have and maybe after a discussion with your manager you might better understand it.

That model is not so good for a player that deposits 200 bucks, plays it off quick and leaves, but if that same player ends up playing that 200 off over the course of weeks and weeks (because they win some, play it off, win some more play it off etc..) the commission from that 200 can actually end up making you more than standard commission models other programs offer.

I have actually taken numbers from other programs and plugged them into what I would have made with the same players at Rewards and some times I would have made less with RA and sometimes I would have made a lot more.

Just don't be so quick to judge without first talking to them a bit more.

Rick
Universal4

Thats are many commission models on the internet.
If I player wager $1000 on slots and you get 1.30% of that. Its bad! You shall have minium 25%

[GCG]

I had a rouletter player that played with $300 including a bonus for days and wagered 4xx.xxx which resluted in almost $3500 commission.........like universal4 said sometimes it is better sometimes not.

BTW this earnings model has no negatives either, if you have a player winning big it does not affect you instead of 25% comm. x 0 = 0 .........

you have our POV, you decide

good luck

[hellboy]

I had a rouletter player that played with $300 including a bonus for days and wagered 4xx.xxx which resluted in almost $3500 commission.........like universal4 said sometimes it is better sometimes not.

BTW this earnings model has no negatives either, if you have a player winning big it does not affect you instead of 25% comm. x 0 = 0 .........

you have our POV, you decide

good luck

And on another place you have earn more

[universal4]

Hellboy,

For a player that "spends" 100, at most groups you get the commission on the 100 less fees etc.

At RA that 100 could potentially be thousands in activity depending on the games played.

Get your affiliate manager to explain it though so you can understand it.

Rick
Universal4

[hellboy]

Hellboy,

For a player that "spends" 100, at most groups you get the commission on the 100 less fees etc.

At RA that 100 could potentially be thousands in activity depending on the games played.

Get your affiliate manager to explain it though so you can understand it.

Rick
Universal4

on most places there a person deposit maybe 100 and play you get better commission beacuse you get better than 1.30%

[universal4]

You really don't understand the difference between a 25% commission on $100 which is $25

But a $100 depositor could easily roll over $2500 on slots if they have a good day. In the example above, you get the $25 and that's it, (even if the rollover is $2500) but at RA the commission is based on the $2500. ($32.50)

Renee or one of the other managers could explain this much better.

Rick
Universal4

[Renee]

Firstly can one of the mods please separate this into a new thread and close off the original thread. Thanks

hellboy - it seems that you're misunderstanding the way the wager model works.

The wager model pays out 35% of the margin on each game type. 35% of the margin on slots is 1.3% of each bet. This is not 1.3% of player loss but of each bet. This means that you are paid the same amount per bet regardless of whether the bet is a win or a loss, rather than only a percentage of what the player loses. It also means that while players are betting your commission will never go down from a player win. On revshare your account could go into the negative from a player win. This doesn't happen on the wager model.

The difference between the wager model and the revshare model is that on the revshare model the absolute maximum you can make from a player is 25-35% of their initial deposit, and that's only if the player loses. Since on the wager model a player can turnover their deposit many times, it's possible to make even more than the deposit in commission.
I had one affiliate a few months ago make $16k from a $2000 deposit. On revshare the affiliate would have earned negative because the player was actually up on us. On the wager model they earned 16k.

It can also work in the opposite way where if a player deposits $1000 and dumps it in one go and loses, you will only make 35% of the margin on that single bet. Instances like this are very few and far between thankfully.
On the other hand, if the player dumped 1k on a single hand, won and played it back, you would earn on the amount the player is playing back to the casino too.. So in that case it's a win-win situation.

You can see the explanation of the wager model here: http://www.rewardsaffiliates.com/mai...ring-intro.asp

If you're still unsure about how this model is calculated I would be happy to send you some examples. If so, please send me an email to Renee@RewardsAffiliates.com so I have your email address. I think getting an explanation and sending examples would be much better than posting because you don't understand how it works, which is what is happening here.

Cheers

[hellboy]

Im not so good on english but I earn 1.30% on every bet?

[baldidiot]

Im not so good on english but I earn 1.30% on every bet?

Exactly!

So lets say you have a player who deposits $100 and then plays 1,000 spins of a slot machine at $3 a spin, making a total wager of $3,000.

If the player loses the $100:

• Rev share at 25%: $25 ($100 x 25% = $25)
• Wager share at 1.3%: $39 ($3,000 x 1.3% = $39)

If the player ends up with a balance of $200 (eg: wins $100)

• Rev share at 25%: $0 (-$100 x 25% = -$25, which would be $0)
• Wager share at 1.3%: $39 ($3,000 x 1.3% = $39)

Now lets say the player deposits $100 and bets it all on one spin of a slot machine and loses. Here:

• Rev share at 25%: $25
• Wager share at 1.3%: $1.30 ($100 x 1.3% = $1.30)

So the commission is based on they amount they wager, not the amount they win or lose. Does that make sense?

[hellboy]

Its good you explain to me

I remember when I deposit €50 and play with a bonus on €20 so I have €70

I ask later that guy what him earn on me and him say €37.

Are Net revenue same like Rev share??

[Renee]

Net revenue in the most basic form is the revenue generated minus any deductions. revshare is the commission you make on the net revenue.

So for example, if 5 players all lose $1000, the net revenue would be 5000. Revshare is then your 25-35% of the 5000.