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    Babies are not affected at all. Maybe the panic because you do not want to bury your parents prematurely? Or because when you want to buy something, you can not, because others are trying to get it, so you are trying to buy it as well. The ontological security was just broken, man. People are playing roles of consumers for whole their lives, they identify with consuming and now suddenly they can not consume. So it is causing a panic. It is just natural. I do understand the people that have panic, I do not understand how people who are consumers as well and work in marketing on the top do not understand it.
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    Yes a lots of panic in all world. People are not ready to live in nature, they live in megapolises and when go to market expect to buy food, but if not food there, they dont know what to do. We are gone from nature, we will find very much diffivulties, if we can not buy buy goods, but in villages, many people will survive, because they know how to make a food, not only to buy.
    For our afiliate partnerships maybe not affected much like traffic and registrations, because many people will stay at home, but will they will risk some money to bet I dont know, or keep their money for other things.
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    After a couple of days I'm going to my village in the Southeast of Bulgaria, I do it anyway every year just now it will happen a bit earlier. Should be OK, normally I don't see any people around for weeks, my cellar is full with буркани и ракия to the roof, the internet connection is fine...
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    Quote Originally Posted by zalozite View Post
    Yes a lots of panic in all world. People are not ready to live in nature, they live in megapolises and when go to market expect to buy food, but if not food there, they dont know what to do. We are gone from nature, we will find very much diffivulties, if we can not buy buy goods, but in villages, many people will survive, because they know how to make a food, not only to buy.
    I'm not surprised by people panicking, I find it amusing that the lady in front of me in a supermarket was buying 10x12 toilet paper rolls, perhaps she was expecting some serious diarrhea (by the way is not even a coronavirus symptom)... However, large part of today's civilization is more vulnerable than you imagine. There is a nice quote related to it - "There are only nine meals between mankind and anarchy"

    i'm honestly very disappointed by United States' - and especially Trump's - reaction to it. He is technically the most powerful man in the world, what does he do?

    - first some messages on Twitter on how "it is less serious than common flu" and that people are overreacting (tell that to doctors in Italy...)

    - then great timing happens with the Saudi/Russia argument which leads to insane oil crash, which can damage the world's economy, US shale miners and cause instability in the world. His response is a tweet saying how this is great news, a "tax relief" and Americans will have cheaper petrol

    - then probably some advisor informs him about the situation in Italy and about Schengen zone. The response is a flight ban from 26 Schengen countries (incl. countries like Latvia or Lithuania with 1 to 3 confirmed cases) to USA - while still not affecting flights from United Kingdom, Ireland, countries such as Croatia, Bulgaria, Romania and maybe more importantly East and Southeast Asia.
    Of course this selective ban makes no sense, what would make sense is quick large-scale testing and perhaps addressing the fact that 30 million Americans have no health insurance.

    I think if I created an AI and gave it a goal to make each decision so that the economy becomes more and more screwed up, Donald Trump would be the result. I can survive that US stocks dropped 20-40 %, international stocks dropped 20-40 %, even stupid Bitcoin dropped 25 % in a day; I just hope I'm not already covertly infected, I'd likely survive it but I may infect a random old guy I meet on the street, that is something to think about...

    By the way the image on previous page is fitting, it would be very funny if it turns out that Trump met with some "Make Brazil Great Again" guy, then he bans flights to/from Europe and then he learns that the Brazilian guy he had lunch with tested positive for coronavirus (he's 73 by the way so in the most vulnerable group).

    If your not a baby/toddler, elderly, or someone in a high risk group, EG: depleted immune system, then according to reports, if you get it, your only likely to get a mild case. So why the panic?
    This is very selfish, I think people in the most affected countries (Italy, Iran...) used the same logic and the result is sad, just read what I wrote above.
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    The problem is that most of sports will soon be canceled, so forget about sports betting. lucky we have viirtual leagues, and the slot machines...

    Maybe its time for an "alignment swift" for european countries, since the end of ww2 most of europeans countries alligned with the US agains the rest of the world, with policies like trump is performing now, people in europe are starting to realize and consider a China/Russia shift of allignement, specially if USA wil remain as the "proudly alone" speech specially when more and more european countries becoming china dependent nowadays. if Trump were rulling usa during the ww2 Im not sure if America would help allies defeat hitler.

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    Corona has a lot of rumors and misinformation. Watch this video to get the real information on the scale and the impact. This gentleman has worked with the US government to consult on matters related to Bioterrorism.

    People. This one is spread just by breathing. Nothing is going to stop it.


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    People. This one is spread just by breathing. Nothing is going to stop it.
    I guess people in China either stopped breathing or China is lying and they are all dead by now.
    But since China is helping already to other countries... I guess there is a way to stop it. As BJ said, it was necessary in democracies to wait longer, until we spoiled brats are able to accept this nuisance. People will survive, maybe some will die, maybe relatively lot, but my fear is that after that nothing happens, just more liberal monetary policy. The problem is not the virus, but the state of humanity, where nobody aims anywhere and all that people have is fear and guilt that emerged right now.

    even stupid Bitcoin dropped 25 % in a day
    Reload the browser.

    I think if I created an AI and gave it a goal to make each decision so that the economy becomes more and more screwed up, Donald Trump would be the result.
    Spot on. This is not "if". Donald and many other things, incl. corona or rather the reaction to it, is a result of some invisible need for the restart of economy and society. It can be felt. The economy as we see it is already screwed up for long time and from 2009 it is just pure lunacy. The only problem is that it is not seen and it is not felt, so we tend to think everything is ok. Nothing is ok, What we see is a result of billions of people who lost their path, who are just live/live "well"/survive to pay their bills. I am sure even cats are much more aware why they live here than average people. Corona and will probably vanish and will be just a warning for some. After all it will probably help to the economy, because dead old unproductive people are great for capitalism, right?

    But problems like corona and bigger will emerge.
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    Im in Madrid which is going into lockdown,, a few more days and I think it will be locked down even further, Spain has a large elderly population and noway would the health service be able to cope here. Though i think I would pass the sickness im aware that many around me may not like those with exisitng conditions, one is my childs mother who is in chemotherapy .. so im staying at home more than usual for the next 10 days.

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    Very poor and shocking response from the UK, they have decided to only test those for covid-19 who are admitted to hospital with symptoms. All this is going to do is hide the true figures and spread of the virus and put a lot more lifes at risk. You can't rely on computer simulations and models to predict the spread like they will now be doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wonderpunter View Post
    Im in Madrid which is going into lockdown,, a few more days and I think it will be locked down even further, Spain has a large elderly population and noway would the health service be able to cope here. Though i think I would pass the sickness im aware that many around me may not like those with exisitng conditions, one is my childs mother who is in chemotherapy .. so im staying at home more than usual for the next 10 days.
    sheeeit. I hope BCN doesn't do lockdown. time to stock up on weed + estrella IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock View Post
    Nothing is ok, What we see is a result of billions of people who lost their path, who are just live/live "well"/survive to pay their bills. I am sure even cats are much more aware why they live here than average people. Corona and will probably vanish and will be just a warning for some. After all it will probably help to the economy, because dead old unproductive people are great for capitalism, right?

    But problems like corona and bigger will emerge.
    That's true but that won't change. Not due to corona, black plague or meteor hitting the earth.

    For me it just sounds insane what's going on. I didn't buy food or any other precaution. Just watching the stock market and waiting.

    I might be completely wrong, but my guess is that the damage that this total panic will do will be much greater than of corona itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AussieDave View Post
    If your not a baby/toddler, elderly, or someone in a high risk group, EG: depleted immune system, then according to reports, if you get it, your only likely to get a mild case. So why the panic? The yearly flu kills the aforementioned too. But, countries don't close borders etc., etc., etc. Unless, coronavirus is much more severe than we're being told.

    Edit:
    Just checked our our Gov., site: Across the world, there have been more than 124,000 confirmed cases of coronavirus (COVID-19) and more than 4,500 reported deaths. (so approx 3.65% fatality rate).
    124,000 confirmed cases probably puts the real number of cases in the millions. Death rate same as influenza.

    The realist in me says "maybe take the annual influenza more seriously every year, look after yourself. Eat better, drink better, take vitamins and take care of personal hygene" just simple common sense

    The conspiracy theorist in me says : "Plan = overthrow the Ayatollah. Bonus plan = crash world economy and blame it on corona rather than the mismanagement that has seen this crash coming a long time. Bonus plan 2 = move cashless society a few steps nearer"

    The governments and news broadcasters need to watch out for the boy that cried wolf scenario here. Or do they assume everyone will forget like we all forgot SARS as soon as they invaded Iraq?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wonderpunter View Post
    ..., one is my childs mother who is in chemotherapy .. so im staying at home more than usual for the next 10 days.
    Man, you must be devastated. Keep strong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feedinco View Post
    Wash hand frequently and vitamin c supplements.
    I went to refill some liposomal vitamin C supplies and the 2 brands I would buy were gone. Many more were out of stock.

    That was last night.

    This morning I saw an article about how after toilet paper, masks, and water, now the next thing disappearing from the shelves are immune system boosting items. Vitamin C was their first example lol.

    To those of you reading this, there is one immune system booster that is always available and absolutely free... water-fast, or even better, try a dray-fast. It may save your life and in a scenario where food and water is scarce, completely abstaining is 10x better for you than eating small amounts of calories and/or nutrition.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sports6Cryptos View Post
    124,000 confirmed cases probably puts the real number of cases in the millions. Death rate same as influenza.
    The death rate is under-reported as well. Don't be so sure. I just learned today from a local doctor of cases in my city that are not publicly disclosed. And then take a read of this article in a respected Western journal from 2 days ago about the mortality rate: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...195-X/fulltext

    Ponder this: If you were a hospital in the early stages with an amount of patients you could hide, would you want the entire town knowing you had Coronavirus patients? You'd lose a ton of money on other visits.


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    The conspiracy theorist in me says : "Plan = overthrow the Ayatollah. Bonus plan = crash world economy and blame it on corona rather than the mismanagement that has seen this crash coming a long time. Bonus plan 2 = move cashless society a few steps nearer"
    Nailed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PROFRBcom View Post
    Ponder this: If you were a hospital in the early stages with an amount of patients you could hide, would you want the entire town knowing you had Coronavirus patients? You'd lose a ton of money on other visits.
    In America that could be true I guess - but most health professionals would probably share the truth.
    Most developed nations have a health service that isn't profit driven - so I dont think hospitals are hiding numbers worldwide.

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    Ok, right now I am in a country that has closed borders. I can not leave to the country where I live (also that country is over the ocean and there are no flights). Also there is an order to stay at home. I have no home, I stay in hotel. But there is a ban on hotels or property rentals.

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