End of my rope!

mojo · #1 (**permalink**) 16th-August-2006, 01:08 AM

When I search no deposit mojo (my site) on google, I have a ton of scrapers. They all start with numbers. They copy everything I have. I have gone to whois and written google a bunch of times but I fear pretty soon I'll be gone.

I'll take any ideas anyone has. I don't think i've ever used such foul language before. Ok, deep breath.

Thanks for listening!

Paula

kidd75219 · #2 (**permalink**) 16th-August-2006, 07:56 AM

Look and see what affilliate programs they are promoting and report it to them.

mojo · #3 (**permalink**) 16th-August-2006, 09:51 AM

Ok, I will write one of them today and see if they do anything, I think they will. The other one is 888 and it's doubtful they will do anything but I will certainly bug the hell out of them.

Thanks Randy!

Paula

universal4 · #4 (**permalink**) 16th-August-2006, 11:51 AM

This is the exact same scraper I posted about the other day.

Funny, although many views no one posted anything. (Maybe no one understands the importance of a scraper being able to boot ALL RESULTS for any specific term....or they aren't bothered until the results are seen affecting their own terms.)

Mojo, I searched for the term "no deposit mojo" (without quotes) and see that the scraper has commanded 4 of the first 10 results. This is the SAME scraper as in my examples in the other thread. In this case the sites:

xxhttp://2897.wjggofd.org/
xxhttp://1778.npbtegv.org/
xxhttp://3520.eriioli.org/
xxhttp://5384.tgvxgfr.org/

all go to the same place. I see 2 different templated search sites shown. The links shown on the search pages are all from the same IP.

What I would like to determine is what IP the actual spider doing the scraping is coming from so we could all ban the IP.

I will probably ban the IP that the search pages are on, but that may not do much if the scraper is scraping Google and not our actual sites anyway...

Any thoughts?

Rick
Universal4

mojo · #5 (**permalink**) 16th-August-2006, 01:55 PM

Apologies Rick, I read your post but did not comprehend it was the same problem.

I have been trying to deal with this but it's a brick wall. Google may end up deleting everything including me. I've seen that happen. The best course I think is to get the casino programs to ban these affiliates. One program is Casino Blasters and I have written. Most of the traffic goes to 888.com however and we all know they will do nothing.

I will block the ip but I don't know how effective that will be. They will still get there but maybe there is strength in numbers if we all do it.

I am going to continue to complain, whine, bitch and moan to these affiliate programs. Maybe if we all do that as well?

I am up for anything at this point. I know others are beyond frustrated too and maybe if we band together?

I would like to hear more from all on this.

Thanks again,
Paula

universal4 · #6 (**permalink**) 16th-August-2006, 02:16 PM

Well, like I said, if we could figure out the IP of the actual scraping....but that is moot if they are only scraping the engines anyway....

Spam complaints to Google are read and acted upon....but it is a slow process.

Scrapers like this are usually dealt with once the google engineers see enough of a pattern....and they react very quickly when they get enough complaints that terms completly dis-aapear such as one of the examples I showed....but they must receiev numerous complaints about it.

If you use the site command on each of the 4 above, you will find that only one result is indexed in each case. All 4 are a form of no deposit term.

If you use the site command in each of the 4 above using only the parent domain, each has a result in the neighborhood of 35,000-40,000 results.

Each of these results is a spammed link back to the site, or the crap page that all does the same thing, steal results to show a search page.

I also believe they are using cloaking technology to acheive this.

Google needs to react better to these type of complaints as this is what is making their engine more and more UNUSABLE all the time.

(Again, I will place a plug here for wanting to see all sub-domains devalued....not a popular opinion in all circles for sure, but one I have held for many years as I saw this coming a LONG time ago)

Rick
Universal4

mojo · #7 (**permalink**) 17th-August-2006, 08:20 PM

I agree, google is unusable. I do not have such problems at other searches. Google is just to big and when they finally take down 5, 10 more show up. I don't think they can keep up. I have written them again as more show up. I have written the affiliate programs again as well and waiting for a response.

Quote:

Originally Posted by universal4

(Again, I will place a plug here for wanting to see all sub-domains devalued....not a popular opinion in all circles for sure, but one I have held for many years as I saw this coming a LONG time ago)

At the risk of seeming like I dont know, because I dont lol. Would you mind elaborating a bit on this. How does one devalue a subdomain?

Paula

CityGuard · #8 (**permalink**) 17th-August-2006, 08:24 PM

Mojo, I think Rick means that google should rank subdomains lower than other sites in their listings, not that webmasters should conduct some "devaluing" process on their sites.

mojo · #9 (**permalink**) 17th-August-2006, 08:37 PM

Oh thanks CityGuard. In my current frame of mind that is exactly what I was thinking. There are some I would really like to devalue.

It's a great idea but I would have to weigh the reprecussions. Drastic times call for drastic measures however.

Thanks again CityGuard and I'll just say "duh" lol.

Paula

Dominique · #10 (**permalink**) 18th-August-2006, 04:08 PM

Google collects these complaints and uses them to help design new algorhythms.

When you submit to http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html , make sure you fill in all the boxes as asked, and explain at length in the big box provided.

When I was google bowled recently after 888 dismissed their worst spammer, I turned in new sets of 50,000 pages and more daily and google did take care of them.

This site xxhttp://5384.tgvxgfr.org/ and the others mentioned above has tens of thousands of look alikes, and it used to be easy to turn them in but now they each have their very own domain. That makes it tough.

The more people turn this in, the more action we can expect.

I hear that google will soon come out with an algorhythm that should rock the boat a lot, the trouble is not so much getting rid of the spammers as preventing innocents from getting tangled up in the net.