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  • Positive - I expect the poker marketplace shifts will be good for my affiliate revenue.

    2 9.52%
  • No Effect - I do not believe I have U.S.poker players at affected sites.

    6 28.57%
  • Insignificant Effect - Less than 1% of my affiliate revenue was from US poker players at the affected sites.

    3 14.29%
  • Between 1% and 5% of my affiliate revenue was from US poker players at the affected sites.

    3 14.29%
  • Between 6% and 10% of my affiliate revenue was from US poker players at the affected sites.

    2 9.52%
  • Between 11% and 20% of my affiliate revenue was from US poker players at the affected sites.

    2 9.52%
  • Between 21% and 30% of my affiliate revenue was from US poker players at the affected sites.

    0 0%
  • Between 31% and 40% of my affiliate revenue was from US poker players at the affected sites.

    1 4.76%
  • Between 41% and 50% of my affiliate revenue was from US poker players at the affected sites.

    0 0%
  • Between 51% and 70% of my affiliate revenue was from US poker players at the affected sites.

    1 4.76%
  • More than 70% of my affiliate revenue was from US poker players at the affected sites.

    1 4.76%
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  1. MichaelCorfman's Avatar
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    How does the forced withdrawal of major poker sites from the US affect your revenue?

    As probably everyone in the online gaming industry knows, last Friday is being called "Black Friday" because of the actions of the U.S. Department of Justice against Absolute Poker, Full Tilt Poker, Poker Stars and Ultimate Bet. First seizing their domain names, and then, earlier today, agreeing to give them back in the context of the sites no longer accepting poker play for money from players located in the United States.

    So, if you look at your revenue over the past year, how large an effect will this have on you? Do you earn revenue from U.S. players that have historically played at those sites? If you do, how large a hit does it look like you will have as a result of the recent actions?

    In a few cases, I've heard of positive effects for those not targeting the US market. With changes in player liquidity at poker sites, rumors are that at least a few European sites are seeing growth due to the turmoil.

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    My hit should be around the 11-20 percentile. The thing that really pisses me off about this is that I had a CPA deal I was using on a few sites with Full Tilt that had roughly 150 depositing players over the past few months that haven't qualified yet. I'm not sure how many of them are U.S. players but based on the traffic where I was using these trackers I'm sure most of them are and with U.S. players being blocked I'll obviously never see a dime for any of them.
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    I don't promote too much Poker so I won't see a big reduction in my earnings, but what concerns me more is the ripple effect - For example the white label Rival Gaming Casinos that have pulled out will affect our income, plus any other casinos which will now back out of the USA market.
    My main worry is if the RTG casinos also pull out.
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    I was going to post something along the lines of what topboss just said I don't promote poker, so this hasn't affected my income. It has been frustrating having to remove 400 affiliates from all of my sites. As bad as the situation becomes with USA online casinos, I don't believe online gambling will ever completely shut down, the market is far too profitable. I almost bought poker.cc a little while ago from sedo.co.uk, so glad I didn't!
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    Very little movement. Stars and FTP were only a ripple of revs.
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    Well since Pokerstars and Fulltilt pissed me off long time ago i donīt have many players there, so no biggie for me personally

    It was a positive move for me, all the PS and FT players (who were not mine) are looking for a new place to play, yeah
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    Fortunately I made the decision to stop focussing on US traffic last year and sold off most of my US related stuff. Therefore the impact of the recent news was minimal around 6-10% I would guess. The dropping US dollar is having a greater impact
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