How does rev-share work for poker?

[T3ddyBlair]

Hi there.

I was wondering how the Revenue share for poker affiliates work! Do you get a % of the buyin or raked hands or whats the story!

How do the affiliate programs work this out?

Regards.

Blair.H

[pokertramp]

Hi T3ddyBlair, you get a percentage of the referred players rake.

So if I was signed up under you and played in a 1/2 NL game for an hour lets say. I may only be involved in 5 hands and if those 5 hands were heads up, I would of been contributing to 1/2 the rake for those 5 hands, therefore you would end up with 30% (or whatever % that room gives to affiliates) of the rake I contributed. So 5 hands at full rake of some rooms $3, then $1.50 (my half) x 5 is $7.50 and at 30% you would receive $2.25

If there are 4 people in the pot at $3 rake, my share would be .75c and 30% of that to you would be .23c

All rooms that I'm aware of also offer the rev share on tourney fees. So if the house took $5 for a $50 tourney, the affiliate would get $1.50 which is 30% of that fee.

Hope that helps.

[T3ddyBlair]

Ahh right..thanks that help a load! Make sense now.

Thanks


Regards.

Blair.H

[CityGuard]

I believe a number of rooms do commissions based on average rake at the table rather than rake contributed directly by the player. So with a $3 rake with 10 players at the table each player would be considered to have contributed $0.30 of the rake for that hand, even if only two stay in the pot for the showdown. Tight players will generate more rake in this averaging situation because they get credit for hands where they may not have stayed in while loose players would generally be contributing more than the theoretical average so they could be a slight reduction for them, although I'm not sure if these differences would ever be sizable enough to notice.

[T3ddyBlair]

So what you saying is that rev share in poker is a complete waste of time...or am i looking at the small picture here?

[pokertramp]

CityGuard, that's interesting, I didn't realize that. The last I had anyone from the affiliate accounts explain, it wasn't that way. Are you sure they do it that way and if so, I wonder how we find out who does and who doesn't? You're right, tight players will be more profitable that way.

So what you saying is that rev share in poker is a complete waste of time...or am i looking at the small picture here?

Not at all for me, I prefer rev share over almost any CPA. Poker takes a while to make big earnings from, but it's consistent and in time it's very profitable.

[CityGuard]

Your question about which programs do it this way prompted me to look through Terms and Conditions for a few programs, and I've found that the explanation about rake is mostly related to explaining tiered commissions structures and doesn't mention this info on how it is determined.

PDC Affiliates (Carbon Poker), 888.com (Pacific Poker) and AffiliateClub.com (Casino Club Poker and PokerKings) do include this info on their site and they all use the individual contribution percent rather than average contribution.

I recall reading this in a GPWA forum thread a long while ago (probably over a year ago), although I can't seem to find that thread. Although, based on looking through the handful of Terms and Conditions it may be that I am remembering the thread incorrectly. (I was thinking about a thread concerning theoretical rake but it may be that the individual formula is what I was thinking of as theoretical since it wasn't based on attributing rake to the winner of the pot.)

[pokertramp]

I'm pretty sure they all or most would do it the individual way. It does make a huge difference to the affiliate, if you have a ton of rocks under you, the rev share would be minimal. If you had a bunch of loose players, the rev share would be much higher. But in the end, averaging it would be pretty fair too, interesting subject, if anyone finds a room that does it the averaging way, please post!