Notices

+ Reply to Thread
Results 21 to 40 of 40
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 1 2
  1. casinorecommender's Avatar
    casinorecommender is offline Private Member
    Join Date
    July 2009
    Location
    Izmir
    Posts
    229
    Thanks
    47
    Thanked 13 Times in 9 Posts

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  2. universal4's Avatar
    universal4 is online now Security/Membership Team
    Join Date
    July 2003
    Location
    Sinking Faster, just when I thought it couldn't get worse it did!
    Posts
    13,660
    Thanks
    182
    Thanked 2,171 Times in 1,504 Posts

    Well it shouldn't....that would be like saying that the query is case sensitive and that saying slots 3 times with lower case is spam and changiong the case around isn't....

    And the only way to actually PROVE that it does matter is to take a page that ranks poorly, change ONLY the title and nothing else, and the rank would have to improve dramtically with that change alone....

    The title change would have to use the SAME EXACT words and ONLY the case could change....otherwise it doesn't prove anything.

    Rick
    Universal4
    Gambling World Online Roulette Online Blackjack Live Online Games Sports Betting Horse Racing
    Casino Affiliate Programs
    Hosting and Domain Names
    Gambling Industry Association
    GPWA Moderation by Me and My Big Bad Security Self
    If an affiliate program is not small affiliate friendly (especially small US Affiliate), then they are NOT Affiliate Friendly!
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  3. Dominique's Avatar
    Dominique is offline Private Member
    Join Date
    March 2002
    Location
    The Boonies
    Posts
    4,772
    Thanks
    450
    Thanked 718 Times in 296 Posts

    Not once have I seen content mentioned here.

    If you want to create a site today and have it rank tops tomorrow, be prepared to throw it away soon. Google no like and it will catch you.

    If you want to create a site that will make you money for years to come, create unique content.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  4. The Following User Says Thank You to Dominique For This Useful Post:

    topboss (9 January 2012)

  5. thebookiesoffers is offline Private Member
    Join Date
    November 2009
    Location
    Leicester, UK
    Posts
    525
    Thanks
    54
    Thanked 62 Times in 58 Posts

    Quote Originally Posted by Dominique View Post
    Not once have I seen content mentioned here.

    If you want to create a site today and have it rank tops tomorrow, be prepared to throw it away soon. Google no like and it will catch you.

    If you want to create a site that will make you money for years to come, create unique content.
    you are right with what you put but it is only one piece of the jigsaw. seo is about bringing all these pieces together
    Get bookies offers and bookmakers free bets as well as Free Poker Chips and Free Casino Money and read our betting reviews and tips at our Betting Blog
    Why not enjoy Free Online Poker at our new poker site
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  6. casdirs is offline Public Member
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    82
    Thanks
    5
    Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts

    This is one of the oldest questions in SEO, how can you rank quickly for a keyword Its something every webmaster would love to know, and what everyone spends their time trying to figure out lol Even if it were possible to rank quickly, the bigger issue is being able to maintain that position. I've seen websites come out of nowhere and rank well very quickly, but I haven't seen any of them maintain that ranking. I think its better to creep up the SERPs slowly and steadily, even if it takes a bit longer.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  7. xecutable's Avatar
    xecutable is offline Private Member
    Join Date
    March 2011
    Location
    San Diego
    Posts
    640
    Thanks
    74
    Thanked 160 Times in 119 Posts

    Forget about it! This is a business field like any other. If anyone could come and rank FAST in the top of the serps, everyone would quit their day job and create a website. The way I see your question is "How can I get fast serp results, for free, applying some sort of technique?". You simply can't at least not for free and permanent.

    But that's good! That gives you protection in the future! It guarantees you that no shmucks that came in for the money will be able to outrank you fast, make some cash and leave. The better question would be "Does my site/pages/posts have the quality to meet the expectations of the viewers, at top ranks?"

    You know what they say, easy come easy go. That's why you don't see many lottery winners keeping their $. While moving up in the serps, you go through this process of learning and understanding your site, your traffic, your strong keywords etc. It's a process necessary for later. As Nic ones said in an interview about lcb it's not hard to get to the top, it's hard staying there.

    P.S: Even if there was some sort of magical secret, do you believe someone will come out here and share it?
    Last edited by xecutable; 8 January 2012 at 1:25 pm.
    E-sportbets.org - Football betting tips sportsbook reviews, free bets & betting offers.
    Freebetreviews.com - High quality free bet reviews, read, learn, rate.
    Euro 2012 Betting
    - Euro 2012 Schedule, odds, books and previews.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  8. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to xecutable For This Useful Post:

    Dominique (8 January 2012), GCG (8 January 2012), lots0 (10 January 2012), topboss (9 January 2012)

  9. Dominique's Avatar
    Dominique is offline Private Member
    Join Date
    March 2002
    Location
    The Boonies
    Posts
    4,772
    Thanks
    450
    Thanked 718 Times in 296 Posts

    Make a 3 year business plan, like you would be required to do with any start up business.

    If you do that, you can end up making a good living for many years to come.

    First think about what you personally would want from a site as a player. Hopefully that means that the content will be somewhat unique, because not everyone will be looking for the same info.

    Start with one thing that you don't see all that often. One perspective that would be useful to you as a player. This will be the niche you start with, and it will give you an advantage in the SERPS. Make an outline of what all in that category applies. Maybe it's a specific game, and you can make a site that does a better job of explaining it. Maybe it's a certain type of bonus, and you can explain what's good about it and what to look for in player T&Cs. Maybe it's places you can play when you are from a specific country. Lots of ways to approach this. Go to some player forums and see what their concerns and desires are.

    Build this with good, basic SEO. Make all the keywords and titles etc very specific to what is actually important about your topic, and what can be found on that specific page. Don't be afraid to use long tails, you want google to notice you and start putting you in the SERPS - it doesn't matter for what keyword. You want google to start paying attention to you.

    You don't have to go on massive link quests or guest blogs or anything, but find a handful of very relevant links from good sites on that topic and see about publishing a couple of articles about your site and what it offers. If your pages are good, people will be willing to exchange links. Quality over quantity. You will be surprised - links DO propagate naturally if your product is good. There is absolutely NO need to start with 5000 links. IMO that hurts more than it helps in the long run.

    Now coninue with your business plan - you now know how long it takes you to create a site on a limited topic. Now you can add in other topics that relate. And so on.

    If you do this, after the three years you will have a site that ranks well and sits stable in the SERPS. And you will make a living for many years to come.

    And like xecutable says, you will learn a wealth of stuff as you progress. You will be a pro once you have the business plan implemented.

    That's one business model, and my choice because it is reliable and really a lot less work and investment in the long run. You won't be chasing google secrets for the rest of your career.

    The other common business model is to create a ton of small sites and work with quantity rather than quality. There are white hat versions of this and black hat versions. Most that I have seen operate in a grey area - trying to game google but trying to stay under the radar and holding on to sites longer than blackhat can. It's a more volatile way of doing it, and I guess there are a lot of people who like the adrenalin of gaming google.

    Business model number two may originally seem to be less work and quicker success, but there are not very many webmasters I have seen with staying power. Gaming google brings temporary results, google changes the algo every time they become aware of a scheme and they are not as stupid as you think. So you are constantly adapting and changing things - which makes for a lot of extra work, especially because you have a lot of sites to work on. And when the sites plummet for the second or third time, people end up quitting and leaving a vacuum for the quality sites to keep climbing. And the quality sites don't tend to plummet - their advances tend to be permanent.

    So my choice has been not to game google in any way. And I have been making a decent living for some 10 years now - when the economy is good it's very good, but there is enough staying power to make it through bad economic times too.

    Which model to choose is a matter of personality I guess. Both can be successful.

    Personally I like things more stable, I don't want to run around like a chicken with it's head cut off after every algo change.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  10. The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to Dominique For This Useful Post:

    bonusbetting (8 January 2012), GCG (8 January 2012), Jennytaketheworld (16 February 2012), kwblue (9 January 2012), lots0 (10 January 2012), topboss (9 January 2012), xecutable (8 January 2012)

  11. GCG
    GCG is offline Public Member
    Join Date
    February 2009
    Location
    Done
    Posts
    599
    Thanks
    107
    Thanked 211 Times in 153 Posts

    Good post Dominique, you seem to understand what is more important - providing quality information to the end user will always be key and a viable project for the one who wants to achieve steady rankings.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  12. bonusbetting is offline Private Member
    Join Date
    January 2011
    Location
    Leeds
    Posts
    342
    Thanks
    37
    Thanked 48 Times in 42 Posts

    Some great advice in this thread! I agree that quality will win out in the long run, and producing quality takes time/money.
    Link buying can actually be done within Google's guidelines (it's called advertising...)
    Bonus Betting - Poker Bonus - Bonus Casinos - FreeBetReviews.com

    Interested in quality, relevant link exchanges and deals, especially with UK sites.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  13. casinorecommender's Avatar
    casinorecommender is offline Private Member
    Join Date
    July 2009
    Location
    Izmir
    Posts
    229
    Thanks
    47
    Thanked 13 Times in 9 Posts

    You have explained the matter perfectly but i have to add one thing for sure. Working regularly and updating your site regularly is very important also. Google gives very much importance to this.Adding 500 words of blog every day is better than adding 5000 words 1 times a week or a month... Also the grammar of your writings is very much important. This is called Semantics...
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  14. leo29 is offline Public Member
    Join Date
    January 2012
    Posts
    12
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Hi

    It always varies on niche you are taking

    start a site on girls bunk beds you can rank in weeks by getting it some good content and few submissions and 2-3 good links

    start a web hosting site (you will have to enter war)
    1) buy a domain which is real and aged and with some power
    2) daily updates
    3)over 25k budget to invest on links
    4) design part
    5)and once you get traffic going how to monetize it to maximum


    so it would be helpful to suggest if we can know your keywords


    Thanks
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  15. Madabout Media's Avatar
    Madabout Media is offline Private Member
    Join Date
    August 2011
    Location
    Widnes
    Posts
    25
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 4 Times in 1 Post

    You could look into Black Hat SEO, however if the domain you are using isnt a throw away domain then i would strongly suggest you look at a proper SEO campaign which involves stedy growth over several months/years. You should look into PPC and Facebook ads as a way of getting new customers and FTD's then use a part of the revenue to start you SEO campaign.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  16. catchingsmoke is offline Private Member
    Join Date
    October 2009
    Location
    Leeds
    Posts
    158
    Blog Entries
    2
    Thanks
    3
    Thanked 36 Times in 21 Posts

    Get to the top without spending any money or time, well I'll give you a much more viable get rich quick scheme. buy a lottery ticket and cross your fingers, because that is about as likely.

    At least that's going to be more ethical than any other technique to get there with no money or effort... although to be fair if there was a get rich quick scheme we'd all have retired and be sailing our yachts around the med and not replying to things on forums to kill a bit of time in the office.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  17. universal4's Avatar
    universal4 is online now Security/Membership Team
    Join Date
    July 2003
    Location
    Sinking Faster, just when I thought it couldn't get worse it did!
    Posts
    13,660
    Thanks
    182
    Thanked 2,171 Times in 1,504 Posts

    Most of us don't read and reply here for the specific purposes of just killing time.....

    I will however take your advice and buy a lottery thicket this week....cause the payment on the yacht is coming due.....LOL

    Rick
    Universal4
    Gambling World Online Roulette Online Blackjack Live Online Games Sports Betting Horse Racing
    Casino Affiliate Programs
    Hosting and Domain Names
    Gambling Industry Association
    GPWA Moderation by Me and My Big Bad Security Self
    If an affiliate program is not small affiliate friendly (especially small US Affiliate), then they are NOT Affiliate Friendly!
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  18. catchingsmoke is offline Private Member
    Join Date
    October 2009
    Location
    Leeds
    Posts
    158
    Blog Entries
    2
    Thanks
    3
    Thanked 36 Times in 21 Posts

    Haha Ok, you got me not everyone replies here for the sake of killing time (although I reckon there are a few posts from all of us which came about from a hmmm what can I do for 10 minutes scenario).

    But the point of the get rich quick scheme still stands if there was a way to get rich overnight and get out I think I would already be out.

    And haha I may just do one as well, wouldn't it be serendipitous for me to win after making that comment.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  19. universal4's Avatar
    universal4 is online now Security/Membership Team
    Join Date
    July 2003
    Location
    Sinking Faster, just when I thought it couldn't get worse it did!
    Posts
    13,660
    Thanks
    182
    Thanked 2,171 Times in 1,504 Posts

    Yea, that's why I better buy a ticket today too.....I would hate to see on the news later this week that someone one around the corner and I didn't buy one.....

    /end derail

    I have seen sites climb up to good positions quickly in the past, and rarely will they stay, but every once in a while they have....but never if they don't have good strategies in place.

    In those cases, the meteoric rise is often due to a press release that was picked up many places, maybe a video or other post that went viral, etc....and these situations where a site did stay high in the serps after a fast climb were likely sites that had been working their way up anyhow but had something trigger the quick jump....

    Rick
    Universal4
    Gambling World Online Roulette Online Blackjack Live Online Games Sports Betting Horse Racing
    Casino Affiliate Programs
    Hosting and Domain Names
    Gambling Industry Association
    GPWA Moderation by Me and My Big Bad Security Self
    If an affiliate program is not small affiliate friendly (especially small US Affiliate), then they are NOT Affiliate Friendly!
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  20. pariuri-online.ro is offline Private Member
    Join Date
    July 2008
    Posts
    38
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

    I understand is a new site, from my experience is important to:
    -add fresh content.
    -build a clean site, with internal links to important pages and few outbound links.
    -focus on 3-4 main keywords only.
    -regarding link building, don't use backlinks like bookmarking, blog comments etc. in the first 6 months, you risk severe penalties.
    You can start with slow submission to directories or link exchanges, don't use submission software.
    You can PM me if you want to discuss details.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  21. Nile Hadwards is offline Public Member
    Join Date
    October 2010
    Posts
    38
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts

    Re:

    I would say just try to build quality backlinks using blog commenting and forum posting techniques with dofollow "rel". It will definitely increase your website SERP as Google ranking.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  22. bonusbetting is offline Private Member
    Join Date
    January 2011
    Location
    Leeds
    Posts
    342
    Thanks
    37
    Thanked 48 Times in 42 Posts

    Quote Originally Posted by Nile Hadwards View Post
    I would say just try to build quality backlinks using blog commenting and forum posting techniques with dofollow "rel". It will definitely increase your website SERP as Google ranking.
    Gormless link-sig spammer alert...
    Bonus Betting - Poker Bonus - Bonus Casinos - FreeBetReviews.com

    Interested in quality, relevant link exchanges and deals, especially with UK sites.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  23. The Following User Says Thank You to bonusbetting For This Useful Post:

    thebookiesoffers (22 January 2012)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts