View Poll Results: How does your January 2007 Revenue Compare with Your September 2006 Revenue?

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  • January was a great month (up more than 5% from September)

    6 23.08%
  • January was status quo (up or down less than 5% from September)

    4 15.38%
  • January was somewhat worse (down 5% to 15% from September)

    1 3.85%
  • January was a lot worse (down 15% to 25% from September)

    3 11.54%
  • January was really bad (down 25% to 40% from September)

    1 3.85%
  • January was half of September (down 40% to 60%)

    3 11.54%
  • January was a complete and total disaster (down 60% or more from September)

    8 30.77%
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    Question How has UIGEA and payment processor turmoil affected January affiliate revenue?

    Since there was a lot of turmoil in the industry during the month of October with a significant number of online gaming sites withdrawing from the US market in the wake of the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act. I thought it would be interesting to find out how the changes have impacted overall revenue earned by affiliates. We ran a poll at that time, and got some interesting feedback about how the change was effecting portal webmasters. You can see the poll and the thread at www.gpwa.org/forum/showthread.php?t=168495.

    In that thread, a number of portal webmasters expressed the view that the bad effect would really not be felt in full until November. And so I agreed to run a similar poll again then. You can see the poll and thread for November at www.gpwa.org/forum/showthread.php?t=168738.

    I thought it would be interesting to continue with a similar poll for the month of December, so we ran it again then, and you can see the results at http://www.gpwa.org/forum/how-has-uigea-affected-december-affiliate-revenue-168998.html.

    During January, working in the industry got even more complicated with the arrest of the founder's of Neteller, and its withdrawal from the US marketplace, followed by many other changes in the area of payment processing.

    So with the continued industry turmoil, I think it makes sense to run the same poll again for the month of January.

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    January remained about the same for me. What I see happening is some programs dropping way off in stats due to changes. At the same time others who find creative options are picking up the slack. Displaced players are moving around to what is available IMO. It's difficult to keep up the day to day changes but players are still finding ways. What I am concerned about at this point is players resorting to less than ethical casinos. It is challenging right now with dwindling options.

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    february seems to be taking the hardest hit of all of the months so far. is everyone else seeing this as well?
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    Azz it was very bad this month :

    I think that we'll see big changes.

    I see this :

    Somebody is aggressive :
    they buy old websites ( with more simplicity ) becasue there is one bad situation about earn and the laws in usa.

    Somebody is quiet :
    the website of information have less money and then they spend less money for the Marketing of own websites ( less link , less article ........ )


    The reduction'll be negative not only for the affiliates ( website of information ) but for the same factory.


    The factory, that advertice for Usa player, will be more advantaged (but with the possibily risk) so for the affiliates ( = website of information ) that write Usa Casino in own website.


    The situation is not quiet.


    I see that the situation is not very quiet.
    [ I have correct the post because it was few clear, sorry ]
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    There should be another option...

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    Quote Originally Posted by matted
    There should be another option...

    "I made a few bucks, but have no way to collect it!"
    Heard that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by big fish
    february seems to be taking the hardest hit of all of the months so far. is everyone else seeing this as well?
    In terms of new player signups. Yes they are way down. Thankfully, since October, I have been concentrating on other markets and am increasing the number of non us players I put through. Several of these are keeping my head above water.
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    A total disaster. Thankfully I have other fingers in other pies to offset the US slaughter house juggernaut.



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    There was very good month, I got a lot of players, and visitors, I have good comissions, but havn't yet received them.

    I'm going to improve and improve my site, I have a lot of ideas how to make my site more useful and more comfortable.

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    I write this post with max honesty :

    dear Aksana you must have more respect [ and you want my thank ? ..... ]

    Here people can't receive the money and we can't work more ....

    I listened that Fbi want to check all the account of Neteller.....

    one write : """Several of these are keeping my head above water"""" and you write : """There was very good month......"""

    you don't have sensibility for other ?

    you are this : you think only to you

    you don't help the other so you have done with me : you are used me and the other ....... I discovered you.


    you continue to write Usa player in your website while there are webmaster that have blocked the money..... While thera u.s.a player that can withdraw their money......While thera u.s.a player that perhaps don't see more their money......

    you must think to other not only to you.....


    sorry

    after your post you want that all webmaster do this "the applause "



    please all the webmaster, that have done this month < 35 %, 'll do one applause to Aksana.....


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    Helpyou, I believe Aksana was not saying that was a very good month in the sense that it was terrific for everybody or that there was very good news in the world this month. I believe she meant it in the sense that it was very good in terms of her website's ability to continue growing in a difficult time. The poll question she responded to also uses some of the language that you are concerned about -- you will notice the first option is "January was a great month," so the poll is specifically asking people to respond about their individual circumstances rather than the industry overall.
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    yes I am agree with you CityGuard.
    I think that Aksana want to say that.

    While she is saing this, she was few sensible....

    She must pay attention (he is stayed few sensible with me and today with that post she was few sensible with the other)

    I am secure that she understand that this was only one positive critic.
    I am secure that with this critic she can only improve being one clever girl.

    I am not happy about this situation.
    I think that It is important to find new strategy.

    I hope that situation'll become more quiet and secure for all.

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    Webin, you still misunderstand.

    Yes, the situation is no good.

    But the question was concerning personal experiences, not opinions of the industry.

    Aksana did exactly as asked.

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    Dominique is one fact of sensibility :

    are we joking ?

    I have read that Fbi want to controll all the account of Neteller........

    are we joking ?

    ...... here there are people that can't work more........
    ...... here there are people that can't work more........

    This time I don't do a pass in back .....
    This time I don't do a pass in back .....
    This time I don't do a pass in back .....

    I am with all that can't withdraw their money ( player and webmaster )

    One must say the things respecting the other .......
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    we must be united in this : we can't divide.......

    I have noted this : in some words in Aksana "but havn't yet received them (the commisions )" there is the problem of all.

    if this market is in crisis, all'll have problems, and for this we can't divide ......

    Infact all want to operate with the respect of laws.

    why the casinos (ex. Las Vegas ) are legal and the online casinos are not legal ?

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    I can't believe!!!!!!!! I only today noticed these posts and I was in a shock

    Helpyou, what did you say? Did you understand this thread and all these posts. I see that you don't understand me and others.

    I said that January was really a very good month in spite of such situation in online gambling. I got a lot of players, but it's my work, I worked hard and I'm working and working that to improve my site, to make it more useful for visitors. And that is because I have comissions.

    It's a usual rule known for everyone: if you work you'll get money, if you don't work you won't get money.

    And about US players. I'm doing everything that to make my site easier for US players, that is because I launched a new directory for them where I added all casinos accepting US players and paying them.

    But due to the current situation I have more players from Europe not from US.

    And in September I received less comissions than in January, over a year I was working with my site for free, I got nothing from it, but I was working and working. And I promoted my site only white methods. And now when I earn good money from my site I hear such bad things about me.
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    And of course I'm so sorry that USA affiliates and players have problems in getting comissions and wins but another part of the world can get comissions as usual like you, helpyou. I hope that good situation will back after the presidents selection in USA.

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    you want to explain this :

    And about US players. I'm doing everything that to make my site easier for US players, that is because I launched a new directory for them where I added all casinos accepting US players and paying them.

    How they'll pay their ( player ) ? wiht neteller ?
    what do you write to your player about payment ?

    you help me to understand......


    it is very simple to write Usa player for one that don't live in Usa.

    Aksana : you don't see that there is less usa webmaster ?

    I repeat you are the best in this month :




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    I didn't update my US directory this week, but you may see some news on my forum, for example, from Jackpot Factory, xhttp://www.jackpotfactory.com/us_banking_update.php?bTag=jfaff1621_2758

    Now US players can get wins through the check almost in all casinos accepting US players.

    And I'm planning to update new payments for US players at the end of the week because there are a lot of changes every day.
    Last edited by aksana; 16 February 2007 at 3:47 am.

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    It is ok , you think the next time more to usa webmaster.

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