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    Hi all - how important does everyone see W3C validation? I've noticed some of my pages pass and some do not. I've narrowed it down to the banners I place on my website as the reason the pages do not pass (some banners pass, some do not).

    I like banners, so I hate to remove all the ones that do not pass. Why dont affilate programs create banners that do pass??
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    I place a lot of weight on being W3C compliant. In case that the banner causes the validation to fail I will host the banner my self so as to pass the validation. It may not be paramount but I feel it is there for a reason and I should strive for perfection in all avenues.

    Most of the banners from a NetRefer system will fail. Those are the most common ones I host myself.

    As far as the programs are concerned I really don't think they give a rip. I asked one program about a widget that would not pass validation and they told me they had no plans on modifying it to work.
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    Hmmn, yea that kinda sucks they cant make them compliant. Good idea to host them yourself, wish I had a clue how to do that.......
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    W3C validation is NOT important at all financially or with the major search engines. Personally I would not spend much time at all worrying about it.

    You need to work out whether you want to spend your time working out how to code to pass an esoteric test - or spend your time making money.

    I prefer to focus on the folding stuff ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltimatePokerBonus View Post
    Hi all - how important does everyone see W3C validation? I've noticed some of my pages pass and some do not.
    Travis, How do you check W3C validation?

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    You can validate your site here:

    http://validator.w3.org/

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltimatePokerBonus View Post
    Hmmn, yea that kinda sucks they cant make them compliant. Good idea to host them yourself, wish I had a clue how to do that.......
    Not hard ultimate poker guy! And if indeed that makes all the banners W3C complaint ...supper. Hosting your own banners accomplishes one other objective as well. That is link juice conservation. And it helps silo-ing. I am trying to get my head completely around silo-ing this week. Apparently, how your links are laid out on the your web site can direct Gooooogy to or away from you.... effecting the SERP. I want to discuss this in another thread, i will present in a few minutes. I need advice on details of that one.

    When you host the banners yourself you can place a "no follow" on the banner. This will keep your juices all nice and tidy. A link going to Wikipedia, a .gov site or other very authoritative sites will help your SERPs. But links to casinos, XXX pages, blackhat sites, etc. will bring it down. Too many links flowing to all our casinos can't be good. So no follow is the trick.
    I only know how to do this with gif banners.
    With your cursor take the flash banner and drop it on your desk top. Change the name to something you can refer to easily because sometimes the casino does not have even their casino name on it so later just looking at the name doesn't tell you much. Latter when you are looking for it in your folder it might not be recognizable to you . Make a folder inside your image folder in your local site called "banners". Drop the gif banner image/tittle in there. Then up it to remote.
    Use the following code to post your banner:

    <style>p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal { margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }div.Section1 { page: Section1; }</style> < <style>p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal { margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }div.Section1 { page: Section1</style>a rel="nofollow"href=" http://ads.CASINO.com/redirect.aspx?pid=983333&bid=1157"target="_blank"> <style>p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal { margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }div.Section1 { page: Sectio</style> <style>@font-face { font-family: "Arial"; }p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal { margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }div.Section1 { page: Section1; }</style><imgxxx src="http://www.mac-online-slots.com/images/banners/gifIMAGEname"alt=""/>


    The underlined part of this code is your affiliate text link which almost all casinos provide you with. Or you can see this as part of another banner they might have. Many times the last numbers (1157) is the landing page in the casino site and normally you can get a whole bunch of dif code numbers for landing pages by looking around the media pages in codes. The bold brown (gifIMAGEname) is your gif banner name. Leave out the small xxx in the imgxxx part of the code. I placed that there otherwise the code wouldnt show in this post.

    PM me if you have a problem. Perhaps the biggest thing is getting the casino text link right.

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    Out going links to authority sites will not help your site. It's the incoming related links from authority sites that we all want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGooner View Post
    W3C validation is NOT important at all financially or with the major search engines. Personally I would not spend much time at all worrying about it.

    You need to work out whether you want to spend your time working out how to code to pass an esoteric test - or spend your time making money.

    I prefer to focus on the folding stuff ...
    Correct me if I am wrong, but I do believe that having a w3c compliant site is very important. A lot of browsing platforms under different versions have been created since the day the internet arena started to expand itself. What this means? Passing the w3c validation is a note for the site's versatility when viewed in different browsing platforms. Ex. You're site may appear organized when viewed in FireFox, however turned distorted when viewed in Chrome or IE due to invalid code compilation occurred during translation. w3c validates versatility of the coding as well as the structure not just the correctness of the code.

    Now, why would I care to validate? Because I want my codes correctly translated. So when a visitor came from an iPhone or an iPod, I wouldn't worry about misleading and presenting them an unprofessionally designed site with terrible functionally due to mistranslation.

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    I use the nofollow but I always thought it came after the link. Is this wrong? Should it come before the link?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UltimatePokerBonus View Post
    I use the nofollow but I always thought it came after the link. Is this wrong? Should it come before the link?
    Usually it is before the url (href) but as long as it is in the link it will work. Just a matter of preference I reckon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixian View Post
    Out going links to authority sites will not help your site. It's the incoming related links from authority sites that we all want.
    Without a doubt incoming authority is what we want but It could be good to know if authority incoming is a help to some degree. One individual I have read who is very open and seams like a good dood says incoming authority does help. GaryTSGuy
    So what make you so sure? I mean... every body has emotions but empirical evidence makes cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by livecasino View Post
    Without a doubt incoming authority is what we want but It could be good to know if authority incoming is a help to some degree. One individual I have read who is very open and seams like a good dood says incoming authority does help. GaryTSGuy
    So what make you so sure? I mean... every body has emotions but empirical evidence makes cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by livecasino View Post
    A link going to Wikipedia, a .gov site or other very authoritative sites will help your SERPs. But links to casinos, XXX pages, blackhat sites, etc. will bring it down. Too many links flowing to all our casinos can't be good. So no follow is the trick.
    I think we have a bit of a misunderstanding. In one of your earlier posts you stated that if your website had an out going link to an authority website that that would be beneficial to your website. That is not true.

    I'm saying that you would want a link from another "authority" website to your website as long as the content of that website is relevant to yours.

    If you had a quality blackjack related website and you linked to an article about blackjack on somebody else's authority website that link would not be beneficial or detrimental to your website but it would be beneficial to the website receiving the link.
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    Hi Ixian,

    Thanks for the reply,
    We are talking about the SERP effect off OUTGOING LINKS to two different types of sites, a very authoritative site and a small PR1 or PR2 site.

    Questions:
    1.- Does an outgoing link to AUTHORITY site (ie Wikapedia) help your SERP of your portal page?
    2-. Does an outgoing link to a PR1or2 site bleed juice/authority to that page?

    I am sure there are a lot of opinions out there. I will post research about this if I can find it. I am surfing SEO sites this week and next. Most portal webmaster opinions are that ALL outgoing link (to any PR site from 0 to 10) is bleeding your juice (lowering the ranking of your SERP). BUt I have come across another opinion and that is the small sites bleed but the authoratative sites help raise the SERP. This is the issue I am addressing. If I come accross hard evidence I will post the sites link.

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    Most of those SEO articles you are reading on the web where probably written when PR was considered to be a major factor. PR is no longer considered to be a major factor.

    My suggestion is to use your time to add unique content to your site and you will see it take off.

    You need to also keep your out going and incoming links content related. So just linking to Wikipedia because you feel they are an authoritative site won't help you at all. If this was true then every website in existence would be linking to these "authoritative" sites.

    If you create unique content you may find that you will get some natural links and those are the most valuable links you can get.
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    When I quote or refer to any Wikipedia content, I don't use the "nofollow" tag. Thus I have link to a relevant content as well as to a "authoritative" site, seen from the perspective of a search engine. I have no idea whether it harms or helps my SERP rank.

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    Default check out the post on Silo-ing

    Thank you both for joining in the conversation. All this nit-pick stuff is interesting and not as important as other things such as SERP. But if you can place the small stuff in your work flow habits, it doesn't take any longer.

    If an authoritative link going OUT helps or not is small stuff. The bigger question is silo-ing and getting a page to rank for a key word. I have a neglected post in SEO section called Silo-ing. More importantly than silo-ing is coordinating your silo-ing with the keywords you are after. Check it out!! Respond if you can. I am conserned in that post about pages that are reviews. I am clearer on keywords when it comes to article pages.

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    It has so much content it is almost stupid. It will get a good SERP in a few weeks time. (slow coming up though)

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    @livecasino, I admire your willingness to learn.

    Just one more tip, that page you linked to in your last post is extremely long, not only does it take forever to load but I got bored just spinning my mouse wheel to get to the bottom of the page. You should divide that page up into sub-pages, that will make it easier for visitors to view content they would find interesting.
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    If you had a quality blackjack related website and you linked to an article about blackjack on somebody else's authority website that link would not be beneficial or detrimental to your website but it would be beneficial to the website receiving the link.
    I disagree with a portion of your statement.

    Inmyopinion, linking out to an authority site IS beneficial to your site and your visitors. I also feel that google thinks it is beneficial to your visitors and therefore to your site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    i disagree with a portion of your statement.

    Inmyopinion, linking out to an authority site is beneficial to your site and your visitors. I also feel that google thinks it is beneficial to your visitors and therefore to your site.

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