View Poll Results: How much do you like being a gaming industry affiliate?

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  • I absolutely love being an affiliate.

    11 42.31%
  • I'm usually happy being an affiliate.

    5 19.23%
  • I'm happy being an affiliate more often than not.

    3 11.54%
  • It's gotten to the point where I am pretty neutral about being an affiliate.

    2 7.69%
  • Being an affiliate is not that much fun anymore.

    4 15.38%
  • It's gotten to the point where I hate being an affiliate.

    1 3.85%
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    Question How much do you like being a gaming industry affiliate?

    Being a gaming affiliate running your own business can be a lot of fun for reasons that range from being your own boss and setting the hours you work, to having freedom to decide what ideas you will pursue, to directly seeing the fruits of your efforts. It's not as stable as a regular job, which can be both exhilarating and scary. You can put in a huge effort with little return, or you can hit the jackpot, so to speak. At times the work can be frustrating, ranging from dealing with unethical programs to increasingly complicated regulatory requirements, plus there are all the typical challenges associated with running a business. Especially in the context of an industry that is, in many ways, much more competitive than it once was.

    Besides voting in the poll, be sure to share your view of what you like best and what you like least about being an affiliates, and how your view has changed over time.

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    I think we are very lucky to be gaming affiliates. I love the challenge the most. Its certainly much more challenging now that it was when we started...
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    I was full time doing this back in 2002 for over 4 years, I have only just come back into it at the beginning of this year after over 10 years away. It took me a bit to catch up with everything that as changed since, It is a lot more challenging now, but I enjoy a challenge. While I'm not full time at the moment, I am enjoying being back, will I have the same success this time? who knows but i'll enjoy trying.
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    Have been an affiliate for only 8-12 months and it's a real challenge, but I'd rather do it than work a 9-5 job for someone else.
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    Love it. Hate it. Drives me literally insane. But when the industry gets on its knees - and I want to give up - I remember that is when the pro's do it anyway, even though it's horrible.

    I love my job. It's not perfect but I cannot think of another role where I could have the freedom I enjoy, setting the hours my mind allows me to work. I can't think of another job where it will keep running on autopilot (to a degree) when I lose my mind or can't find inspiration.

    Despite the evils we face now in this industry (and I am ready for them - finally), I LOVE being an online casino affiliate. And I am good at it, from a business point of view and that of the customer, I hope.

    I can't think of any other job I could do now - being doing this too long.

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    I just adore it. It is kind of job I have not even dreamt of. But it is so awesome , because :

    - you always have to compete, comply and compare with the all new trends and new-coming sharks and players in the industry.

    - you have to beware from malicious and cruel affiliate program and managers.

    - you have to make calculations all the day-night time, even if you are not checking yous stats like : New Regs. FTd's . bounce rate and how many place you have lost/won in Google

    - you have to be a player yourself in order to understand the new betting models, patterns, slots and thos crazy e-sports

    - you have to completely understand and love the face that no two days are the same.

    At least, I have tried to explain why I love being casino, sports and gaming affiliate as whole
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    I'm very surprised by the answers on this thread, and wonder how long the affiliates who responded so positively have been working in this industry. At one time, I would've said that I absolutely love being an online gambling affiliate, working 12+ hours a day, 7 days a week and only taking food breaks and bathroom breaks when I absolutely had to, but that was 15-20+ years ago. I'm not going to list the one thousand and one reasons why I feel so disillusioned with this industry, but I will say this... When an affiliate works his/her a$$ off to build a decent player base, and the affiliate program decides that you have too many players, some of which happen to be high rollers, and starts to quietly untag them from your account, then you have to wonder what is the point of working so hard.
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    Working from home and getting easy money wasn't satisfying at all. I hated it.

    I solved this by starting a company and running everything through it, so I'm actually in the business of building a company, and gambling affiliation is just the means to get where I want to go. Now that's satisfying.

    Not a bad career choice at all. Just try to judge what a person's reaction will be before you say you're in gambling. And how you say it. It's a G-bomb and you got one chance to do it right.

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    I did not vote, because happy/unhappy is an attribute that is not appropriate for work. Work is work, not fun. I am tired to hear/read everywhere how I have to be happy with my work or that my employees demand to be happy at work. Work is work, so it is hard by definition. Fun is with family or having a pet or so.

    I am pretty neutral about being an affiliate. It is definitely getting worse, because now we know that affiliate lifetime deals are no more lifetime and also it is more stress, because anytime I can get email at 2AM that I have 15 seconds to take down some banner. Also other people do not want to work. And also I do not need the money as much as before.

    On the other side it is not that demanding, because I am slowly closing this business, because it has zero perspective, so.. it is better than going to the dentist. There used to be times when I worked really hard and I appreciated that big universe of possibilities, but those days are long gone. I am looking forward something new that is just emerging.

    Another thing why I do not bother to be excited or frustrated is that - as discussed in other thread - I really believe in the reset of society and economy and the money I am making now will be completely wiped out. So there is not much point to work hard and there is no point to be distracted by thieves. What I appreciate actually is to learn how things really are, even when it is mostly ugly.

    Also the fact that gambling is destroying other peoples lives directly is an extra hard job. Being a gambling pimp certainly means one pays a toll for that.

    I still have some employees who can make decent money through this, so it is the brighter side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetbet View Post
    At one time, I would've said that I absolutely love being an online gambling affiliate, working 12+ hours a day, 7 days a week and only taking food breaks and bathroom breaks when I absolutely had to, but that was 15-20+ years ago.


    I'm not going to list the one thousand and one reasons why I feel so disillusioned with this industry, but I will say this...

    When an affiliate works his/her a$$ off to build a decent player base, and the affiliate program decides that you have too many players, some of which happen to be high rollers, and starts to quietly untag them from your account, then you have to wonder what is the point of working so hard.
    Back in 2000 when I started, it was the same for me too. 12 to 14 hour days were the norm, 7 days a week. In the 1'st year I'd only take a day-off if it was important, such as to pay bills or something. Other than that, I worked, slept and ate the casino affiliate gig.

    As you've pointed out, and as others have mentioned for a few years now (in other threads/forums), the promise of "life time revenue" now that the competition is fierce, that "promise" is being reneged on by more and more programs.

    • Retroactive T&C changes to include player quotas;
    • Thieving corporations like Paddy Power, Skybet, GVC and others closing accounts and stealing affiliate earnings;
    • Shaving of some sort seems to be the norm these days;
    • So too is unethical cross-marketing, minus aff tags;
    • Then there's the scams like double dipping Admin fees (claiming two different items when both are the same thing);
    • Bonuses lost back to the casino, yet deducted from GGR as a loss;
    • Players aren't immune either...(VIP's on cash back) having lost bonuses back to casino, they're deducted from losses before receiving cashback.


    NB - Bonuses should be added to GGR, then deducted from GGR.
    If they are lost back to the casino, this calculation squares the books. But it seems more and more of the browser based casinos are deducting "bonuses" as a loss. Meaning, your aff earnings are being shaved by multiple bogus accounting deductions.


    I could go on and on, but I wont.

    This and more is happening to established old timers, so only knows what's happening to newbies.

    I've got a few programs I trust and work with. I don't add anyone else cause who can you trust not to shaft you these days.

    Though, like Sherlock, I too have my eyes set on something new that's just emerging. Rather put my effort into that, than risk losing more money and wasted hours on this industry, which these days seem (more often than not) to be full of crooked, thieving, lying bastards.

    @ Michael - I trust that addresses the poll's question!
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    Yes, because the thrill working on something literally 24/7 (- sleep - eat) was truly the best experience in my life. I would like to feel it once again, even when now I enjoy 10-12 hours of sleep instead of 0-6 and I am also picky about food.

    I really like money as measurement of utility, in other words even the future work must be producing significant money. And that is tough. I really do not want to work for free or to add something like 1% net worth yearly to my savings. The problem is that even far less than 1% is not small money that can be easily obtained. And I think many old affiliates are in similar situation.

    Scraping pennies from the failing affiliate programs (I am not saying I am at the point now, but it is approaching), even when it brings some little money, maybe does not take that much time and effort, but it steals the concentration on something new. So this is my dilemma from Affiliate-Titanic.
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