How is negativ "Poker Net Gaming" possible ?

[oyropa]

Can anyone explain me how is negativ "Poker Net Gaming" possible ?

Thanks....

[TheGooner]

Not sure about the specific details at Europartners - I wouldn't touch their program with a bargepole - but at other poker pograms that breakdown the revenue on a player by player basis it is NOT unusual to see several players in negative status.

Some expenses that can be charged :
- bonus payout on deposits before it's been played through
- fraud chargebacks
- banking deposit/withdrawal fees.

Another thing that can happen if you players are gambling on the sidegames is that they win on casino game (blackjack/slots) and if this is bundled together with your poker rake - then the overall total can be negative.

Overall though - you should be positive once you get to a player base of 10-20 players ..

Hope that helps !

[oyropa]

Thanks Gooner !!!

But side games will be calculated extra in extra columns .

The "Poker Net Gaming" is only for Poker

[oyropa]

@ Gooner , by the way which program you would advise me ???

Thanks

[TheGooner]

Advising on programs can be a tricky thing oyropa as every website is different and every webmaster has a different set of visitors.

But if you can outline what sort of visitors you get, and what sort of program you are after - then I am sure that several people here at the GPWA will have experiences that can help.

Things that you should be able to tell me are :
- What countries do your visitors live in? eg Which are the top 3 countries?
- What products does your site focus on? eg Poker? Casino? Sports?
- What main feature do you focus on? eg Free play? Deposit bonus? Best Play Features?
- Do you prefer to be paid a CPA or rev-share?

Once we understand that - then I think that you will get some recommendations from people!

[GFPC]

If its Europartners it is possible to have neg poker rev but usually only because of bonuses. So for example lets say your players have a sign up
deal where they deposit $50 and get $50 free (instant) then naturally you will see a neg Poker Revenue until they play and rake back the bonuses.

Also Gooner pointed out some others.

Side games will usually show in your Total Net Revenue not your Poker net Revenue and this brings up something important.

Recently a group who runs on the ipoker network told me they do not count side games as a column to be paid out on. This can be an issue and be careful.

Lets say the player came in on your poker tracker and was given a match bonus of $100. You are deducted $25 because that is part of your deal and your on a 25% rev share account. They loss all their money on side games.

You are still in the hole $25 because they do not track your side games. This same thing can happen on the other side.

Always ask programs now from the start and check the terms and conditions to make sure its all above board.

You want to make sure you get paid on side games as well. I am starting to see some sites try and hide this.

You can pm if you want more info on some sites that do this.

[oyropa]

@gooner , you tell " I wouldn't touch their program with a bargepole"

please tell me what u are using for programm actualy..... ?iam interested on revshare .....

Thanks....

[VN111]

Negative Poker Net Gaming could also occur cause some player had saved a lot of loyality points and exchange them for cash

By the way does someone know why there are 2 lines in the Europartners stats dashboard data table? What are these "line 2" stats?