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    Default IPS Affiliates - Don't Pay on UK Customers

    Saw this thread over on AGD and wanted you to be aware, these guys don't pay commission on UK players even though they accept them: http://www.affiliateguarddog.com/com...tes-com.10503/

    For the record I don't work with them (and never will now), but don't want anyone here to get their fingers burnt.
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    "Steer clear". Got it. Thanks.

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    I had a quick look at the other thread and their arguments are ridiculous.

    The reason why we don't pay for UK traffic on those sites is simply because we are heavily marketing those players ourselves within the UK.
    As long as we don't keep a secret about the non-payment of UK traffic, I can't see this being a problem.
    What happens if they decide to run a marketing campaign in another country? Are they going to stop paying affiliates for players in those countries due to expensive marketing campaigns?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldidiot View Post
    Saw this thread over on AGD and wanted you to be aware, these guys don't pay commission on UK players even though they accept them: http://www.affiliateguarddog.com/com...tes-com.10503/

    For the record I don't work with them (and never will now), but don't want anyone here to get their fingers burnt.
    Thanks for the warning.
    I do not know about that affiliation.

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    Hi everyone,


    we feel like the title could be misleading to some extent, as we are paying for UK traffic.


    We have 20 sites to promote available, of which 3 are being talked about in this tread and the one in Affiliate Guard Dog.
    We accept a wide range of different territories on those sites, for which we pay whatever has been agreed with our affiliates. If an affiliate chooses to promote one of them, we make sure they are aware of the UK non-payment rules. As some sites have traffic from different countries they have no problem to market them.
    Once someone voices interest in our programme we seek contact and speak to them about which brands they would like to promote, to make sure that it fits their traffic as well.


    We can only stress again, that on all other casino and bingo sites we pay on UK traffic.


    If you have any further questions, we are more than happy to help and answer them.


    Sandra

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    What sites do you not pay for UK players on?

    It's pay enough that your advertised 35% rev share is actually more like 20% of gross, but now you don't even need to pay 1% for UK players? Unbelievable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandra_IPS View Post
    Hi everyone,


    we feel like the title could be misleading to some extent, as we are paying for UK traffic.


    We have 20 sites to promote available, of which 3 are being talked about in this tread and the one in Affiliate Guard Dog.
    We accept a wide range of different territories on those sites, for which we pay whatever has been agreed with our affiliates. If an affiliate chooses to promote one of them, we make sure they are aware of the UK non-payment rules. As some sites have traffic from different countries they have no problem to market them.
    Once someone voices interest in our programme we seek contact and speak to them about which brands they would like to promote, to make sure that it fits their traffic as well.


    We can only stress again, that on all other casino and bingo sites we pay on UK traffic.


    If you have any further questions, we are more than happy to help and answer them.


    Sandra


    So actually you don't care for hardworking affiliates that provide quality SEO traffic. Your company assumes that the TV traffic converts better and is more valuable than dedicated long tail keyword traffic generated via affiliates right? So someone ranking high on slots is not entitled commission for that as it might be your tv ad that made a potential player search for "slots" not?

    Or maybe your company goes for the "safe bets" by investing marketing budget in regulated countries and has no problem that the affiliate takes the risk in "grey/black markets". That way you can always play the role of "the innocent" towards regulators...

    Either way probably not the most convenient way to built a long term relationship with valuable partners. I'd pass!
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    so they will not pay UK customers for these 2 : pinkcasino.co.uk & slotboss.co.uk , notice the co.uk tld's lol .... basically you will send traffic to UK Casino and they will try to cross market it .....

    not for me !

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    I am actually interested in a few of the brands but I have emailed for clarification on whether they only pay for the casino gaming and not the bingo aspect for the UK bingo brands. Sounds a little misleading but I could be wrong.

    "We pay for UK Casino on all our Bingo sites (Bingo Godz, Gingo Stars, Crown Bingo, Bingo Loopy, Bingo,ie, Bingo Friends).

    We also pay for UK traffic on the following Casino's sites (UK Casino, Castle Jackpot, SlotMob, BetUK). "

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    Haven't come across this program but will steer clear thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by agsgroup View Post
    Haven't come across this program but will steer clear thanks

    They have confirmed via email that they pay on bingo traffic too.

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    The smart thing to do is stay away and I will surely stay away. Thank you all for the information.
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    They don't pay anyway, everyone is a winner at their casinos. Or is it more that you don't pay commission for UK players, but you take the losses?

    Oh and no need to lie, you never once sent an email about not paying commission for UK players on certain brands. Not to me or two partners I work along side, all signed up to IPS affiliates. Just another joke of an affiliate program.

    Good luck getting signups when Google clocks onto your obvious PBN network that you are using to pump all your sites to the front page of Google.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlitzyBingo View Post
    They have confirmed via email that they pay on bingo traffic too.

    Is it also in their t&c? I am a bit cautious on affiliate managers promising and confirming things by mail.

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    Good luck getting signups when Google clocks onto your obvious PBN network that you are using to pump all your sites to the front page of Google.
    Was going to stay out of this one, but if you've seen the shit thats propping these guys up in the serps. i'd put money on it that has something to do with them not paying uk traffic. they think they have it cornered already.
    seriously wouldnt link to one of these guys sites...bad doo doo....surely the penalty is in the post!

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    Quote Originally Posted by freebetking View Post
    Was going to stay out of this one, but if you've seen the shit thats propping these guys up in the serps. i'd put money on it that has something to do with them not paying uk traffic. they think they have it cornered already.
    seriously wouldnt link to one of these guys sites...bad doo doo....surely the penalty is in the post!
    Well the Google spam team is only a few emails per week away. I think I have had just about enough of these thieving affiliate programs over the last year or two.

    They seem to think they can just take without consequences. Theft is theft.

    And again just for the record. No you did not email me anything about not paying for my traffic. You just stole it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickyfu View Post
    Well the Google spam team is only a few emails per week away. I think I have had just about enough of these thieving affiliate programs over the last year or two.
    IPS are a joke. The fact they have thousands of public domains linking directly to their websites is hilarious...they use Javascript redirects to hide the links...a big no-no for Google. It would be very easy for anyone to report the casino properties and the orginating site http://odsalderney.com/ for this using the Google paid links form: https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/paidlinks

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