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    I go for Wordpress. I don't like Joomla.

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    I use Joomla! but I prefer Wordpress.
    I use J only because I see it more "versatile" for my needs of "hard-coder" but it's very heavy in fact of servers' resource usage.

    Wordpress, if you want a "lightweight", powerful and expandable CMS.

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    This is a good topic, I have wondered the same thing. A lot of webmaster say that Joomia is hard to learn but once you get used to it totally worth it. However I wonder how it stands up versus the plugins that wordpress has.

    I use wordpress and live it however I have wanted to experiment with Joomia but I know it will be a big project.

    On another note, I have wanted to make a MMA forum but I know that it would take me a long time to learn and a big management project. I have seem smf forums but the majority of the forums are vbulliten and it seems that there are good seo options for vbullitin forums.

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    I use both, Joomla is very versatile but complex and is not easy to set up.

    Wordpress is relatively quick and painless,if I need specific mods its pretty easy to have someone do them.

    Both have lots of plugins both free and paid.

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    I was thinking about stick up joomla just to have a play with it....I had always heard it was more complicated to get going but also had a lot of features.

    Has anyone ever put this on a windows server?

    Any caveats doing so?

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    I use both on a day to day basis.

    Wordpress is easier, Joomla is a lot more flexible when you learn how to use it.

    I'd choose Joomla over WP, but only because I've been using it for 2-3 years now.

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    Wordpress is easier and it is better for SEO, although Joomla isn`t bad either.

    Joomla is a little bit more flexible, but I don`t think it is worth to master it giving the fact that Wordpress is very versatile also. Also, in the past, Joomla had some fiability problems, errors, I don`t know if that`s the case now, but for sure WP is still more stable.

    I`d go with Wordpress everyday. If you want huge flexibility, you`d be better off learning coding at a higher level and building a website 'from scratch' than learning Joomla, who also has its limitations.

    There are also so many topics online about this, one surely won`t have any problems figuring things out and what works best for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andreygur View Post
    Joomla or WP for gambling sites?
    If you want an easy to use CMS that works right out of the box with minimal fuss so you can get cranking out those articles in quick fashion use wordpress. You'll be driving at top speed in no time.

    If you want to spend far more time "under the bonnet" and tinkering with spanners than is good for you then choose joomla - you'll be at top speed in about a year from now.

    WP will get you 0-60 in a week or so for a beginner. Joomla will take you a month and more to get going.

    Niche sites? Use WP. Blog sites? Use WP. Gambling sites? Use WP.

    Only a masochist would put themselves through the amount of pain a Joomla website will cause. Continual upgrades, upgrades that break, no upgrade paths, templates that work with this but not with that - not to mention the perpetual problem of components or plugins that don't play fair with server file ownership permissions and trash your site.

    When you finally get it all to work together it looks great - but I'm not sure that the time devoted to putting that custom car together outweighs doing the basics right with WP. I've seen some WP sites that look absolutely fantastic.

    Rick - my advice is to give joomla a wide berth - it will just eat up valuable time much better spent elsewhere.

    And for all those that still insist on giving themselves a migraine insert this in your /administrator .htaccess

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    That way all the script kiddies can't waste hours of fun trying to destroy your livelihood. Oh and backup, backup, backup.

    The end product looks pretty and drives like a dream - but believe me - I've used joomla since 2005 and it is a world of hurt compared to WP.

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    I've only used Wordpress and I never had to try something else to be honest. I've been recommended Joomla, Drupal etc, but 'if it isnt broken, don't fix it'.

    I don't know how many plugins Joomla has, but the amount of support wordpress gets, there's literally thousands of solutions out there for any problem. I believe that counts for a lot. I dont think I've ever ran into a problem that someone else hasn't already using Wordpress.
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    I don't really think WP is any better than any other platform SEO-wise.... as it is just a platformfor developing.

    There certainly are a LOT more plug-ins or add-ons for WP than others so that is a clear advantage.

    I have been nosing around the Joomla site and I will probably put one up at some point so I can have a play with it, from what I have read so far though....it looks to me to be a much higher security risk than some other platforms when looking at the recommendations of security settings for folder permissions....

    A few of the threads I read said to give the everyone write permissions on the entire web folder....not gonna do that....I don't do it for WP and have no plans for other platforms...

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    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    A few of the threads I read said to give the everyone write permissions on the entire web folder....not gonna do that....I don't do it for WP and have no plans for other platforms...

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    I use both, and like them pretty much equally in different ways.

    Wordpress is a nice easy blog platform. Joomla does take a little bit more effort, but you can do more with it (IMO) - for example, you can have completely different layouts (or even different templates) based on the category you're looking at.

    Just depends what I'm planning on doing with the site really.
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    Joomla does take a little bit more effort, but you can do more with it (IMO) - for example, you can have completely different layouts (or even different templates) based on the category you're looking at.
    That sounds like a pretty powerful feature, not one everyone would want mind you, but nice nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostick View Post
    with our gambling sites being at the highest risk for hacking? no way!
    Jomia is a higher risk of getting hacked than wordpress? I thought wordpress was the highest?

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    My guess is that since the installed base is much higher for wordpress, the numbers show more hacks for wp than other platforms.

    Also with those higher install numbers, the volume of people using weak passwords and poor security practices go up.

    With Joomla being more complicated to install and maintain, this translates to more "savvy" people administering the platform and therefore better password and security practices being followed.

    I wouldn't mind seeing the real numbers with real comparisons, using real world percentages.....not casino and bingo math where someone just adds percentages together....but overall my guess is that Joomla number will fare better due to the reasons I used above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    My guess is that since the installed base is much higher for wordpress, the numbers show more hacks for wp than other platforms.

    Also with those higher install numbers, the volume of people using weak passwords and poor security practices go up.

    With Joomla being more complicated to install and maintain, this translates to more "savvy" people administering the platform and therefore better password and security practices being followed.

    I wouldn't mind seeing the real numbers with real comparisons, using real world percentages.....not casino and bingo math where someone just adds percentages together....but overall my guess is that Joomla number will fare better due to the reasons I used above.

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    Hi Rick

    You hit the nail on the head, passwords are a key factor, neither one platform or the other is more secure, passwords are key. I have owned a small ISP for over 17 years and clients have been hacked, its usually because they have used a simple password. For those newbies out there, dont save your password in your browser, get yourself a good password manager such as keepass etc. Make complex passwords, I know its a hassle to copy and paste it when you log in to your site, but its well worthwhile and will save you a lot of grief in the future.

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    I prefer WordPress.

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    WP is a friendly user platform compared to joomla which is a bit complicated... WP is still my choice!
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    I build one major site in Joomla, and are never gonna do that again. Wordpress rules. This is just so much more easy to maintain, organize, update and customize than Joomla. I have about 60 sites in wordpress.

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