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    Hi Fredrik

    On the 24th of January I sent an email to Chris outlining a serious issue with Bingo Vega. He replied on the 28th of January expressing a desire to “correct this” He assured me that he would address the issue with me by January 30th. Well that was two days ago and I have yet to hear from him. I hope this is not a sign that Bingo Vega is reverting back to its past behavior of ignoring legitimate issues that need to be tended to. The way this situation is evolving makes me wonder who is running the show at Vega. Chris needs to follow through on his word.
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    Thanks for letting us know, I will follow up with them as well.
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    Hi Richard,

    I read your post. I will be talking to Chris today/tomorrow and I will get in touch with you as soon as possible with an update. Please rest assured that we are taking this seriously and not ignoring the issue at hand.

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    I have been working exclusively with Chris, on this issue, since January 3,2012. Has he withdrawn from this? I sent Chris my recommendations on how these issues could be resolved and awaiting a reply on my recommendations. Because of the seriousness of the issues, I advised Chris to take all the time he needed. I addressed the issue here because Chris, himself, set Monday (Jan 30th) as the day he would address my recommendations. Naturally! If the other side of an issue does not stick to the program, the lack of action may be conceived as being ignored. Another day is just about over and the silence from BingoVega continues..
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    Quote Originally Posted by papafredo View Post
    Hi Richard,

    I read your post. I will be talking to Chris today/tomorrow and I will get in touch with you as soon as possible with an update. Please rest assured that we are taking this seriously and not ignoring the issue at hand.

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    Whatever happened to being open and transparent? Itís apparent to me that Owner, Mike Yates is running the show there, contrary to what you originally told me. Had I known that he was engaged with fixing tournaments and using Prop (aka Bot) Accounts to cheat his players, I would have never publicly stated that BingoVega had cleaned up its act and was operating honestly.

    The few bucks BingoVega paid to clear up a few player complaints, last August, nowhere matches the hundreds of thousands Mike Yates cheated his players out of. The overwhelming evidence I received on January 1,2012 canít be refuted! Although the evidence was dated (2008 - 2009 time period), the issue was/is so enormous that it canít be overlooked!

    Your reaction was the reputation of the old BingoVega reminds a thorn in your side and you have little control over what has happened in the past. You assured me that Mike Yates is no longer involved with operations; Which is contrary to reports I have been receiving from a number of individuals.

    You also assured me with 100% certainty that Prop Accounts has not been used under your leadership. And that ďnew management is available to discuss with full disclosure of how today's business operates." My major concern, that you failed to address and dismissed, is the fact that Mike Yates is an owner of all your brands! He has a long history of being engaged in fraudulent activities and in my opinion, should be banned from any involvement in online gaming and should be shunned by the entire Gaming Community. He was not caught just stealing a few pennies from his players.

    The evidence showed it was common that if a certain game had 50 people playing, you could be certain that at least 25 of them were Prop Accounts. This activity went on for years and for all we know itís continuing. Because of Mike Yates involvement, your problem is to prove that under your leadership the sites are now being run honestly. Admittedly! This is no easy task, but it was one that you seemed to be willing to take on.

    In order to prove your honesty, I sent you two recommendations. The first was that Mike Yates makes a public statement, where he addresses the accusations against him. Secondly! Submit to an audit of your Player Accounts! Since your sites are now being run honestly and you have nothing to hide, this is a sure fire way to dispel any suspicions.

    At first, you indicated you would comment on the recommendations on January 30,2012. When that time came and passed it was clear to me that Mike Yates is still pretty much in control there. Itís a major part of Mikes signature to ignore any issues that are presented to him. That is pretty much what is going on here. Mike refuses to be held accountable for any of his actions, no matter who gets hurt.

    In my opinion, Big Time Revenueís acceptance into a Silver Program is founded on a lie and should be reviewed. What guarantee do we have that any Affiliate here, that signed up to their program, will not be sending players to be ripped off by a greedy operator.
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    Many of you probably know I'm pretty quiet when working behind the scenes on issues reported here, but I did want to post a quick update that I'm in touch directly with the upper management about the new issues that have been raised. It is very early in the communication, but at this stage I have not received stonewalling on any of my questions.

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    Hi CityGuard,

    Thank you for your involvement! I would expect that upper management would not stonewall you as they did me because if they ignored my inquiries, they have little to lose. That would not be the case if they ignored the GPWA.

    I canít help but wonder what questions you are asking them? In all fairness, if you really want to get a grasp on this issue, I suggest that you go to my forum and review the evidence and read all the comments. That should give you a better assessment of what is really going on here.
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    Interesting. Are these issues still current? Are there any new complaints about Vega or any other of the sites operated by this group?

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    What I find interesting is that out of all the topics in the GPWA Forum, someone would join, find this one topic, and make it their first post! Kind of feels like someone is testing the waters to see if things with this issue are dead! Believe me they are not! The fact still is that Bingo Vega Owner Mike Yates and his family still own the sites represented by Big Time Revenue.

    If you want to reopen this topic and update it, I will be happy to contribute!
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    The topic is open if you have additional info you would like to share, especially if it helps others make more intelligent choices of who to put on an avoid list.

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    No, its a legitimate inquiry.
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    They are a Cyprus based operation with a "business licence" from Costa Rica. They (the site) and they alone are the judge, jury, and executioner. This is also pretty much stated in their terms and conditions. If you do not like what they've done or decided, you have very little, if any recourse (as per item nine in the terms and conditions).

    They have that silly rule where you had to have deposited within the last thirty days before requesting a cashout. You also have to "email them" to find out if there are any fees associated with taking a payout.

    Between the above and their history in screwing people who have posted here and the prop accounts that I cannot mention because "they've admitted this and are very sorry" - I bet we could all guess with great certainty as to what my opinion of this group is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialEd View Post
    No, its a legitimate inquiry. Can you PM me? I cant PM without ten posts. I am sorry. I am investigating this specifically and have no interest in other content at this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Shay- View Post
    Between the above and their history in screwing people who have posted here and the prop accounts that I cannot mention because "they've admitted this and are very sorry" - I bet we could all guess with great certainty as to what my opinion of this group is.
    Their argument is all this wrong doing occurred under the last management team! Problem is you have new management but the same owner! They really try and downplay this fact! Sorry! but that tiger has not changed his stripes.
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    Richard,

    You may want to PM RicK (Universal4) to get to SpecialEd. I'm not sure that he can send/receive PM's to/from anyone other than admin/mods because of his post count.

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    If you are "Richard" at the site that is hyper-linked in your signature, you have PM there...

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    My username is ,"specialED" at site linked in Ricbyrnes signature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    The topic is open if you have additional info you would like to share, especially if it helps others make more intelligent choices of who to put on an avoid list.

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    Hi Rick, I worked with this issue with Steven for a long time. I sent him evidence that Bingo Vega was using bot (fake player) accounts, and rigging casino and bingo tournaments for years. This they all admitted to. Since they did not want to deal with me with this issue, I asked Steven for help. Last I heard Bingo Vega was was doing a review of all the games they rigged and was going to come up with a figure and way to pay back players. Steve had his way of doing things, so I let him take the lead! After about a year had past, I contacted Steven for an update and never heard back. We had talked on Skype several times, so I tried to contact him there also. It became apparent the topic was closed! There never was a resolution to what they did! This group is a master of stonewalling and I feel they got the best of Steven. Perhaps this all happened when Steven was making his career move. As far as I know, no one at GPWA picked up where he left off.

    There is lots of questions to be answered but not much interest in the GPWA to get get answers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialEd View Post
    My username is ,"specialED" at site linked in Ricbyrnes signature. PM me there as the rules of ten post count has me stuck. My apologies to staff for the intrusion. Have a good day.
    Hi SpecialED. I did get your PM at BPU. LQQKing forward in what you have to say. If there is anything that the GPWA should know that involves this issue, I shall inform.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricbyrne View Post
    Hi Rick, I worked with this issue with Steven for a long time. I sent him evidence that Bingo Vega was using bot (fake player) accounts, and rigging casino and bingo tournaments for years. This they all admitted to. Since they did not want to deal with me with this issue, I asked Steven for help. Last I heard Bingo Vega was was doing a review of all the games they rigged and was going to come up with a figure and way to pay back players. Steve had his way of doing things, so I let him take the lead! After about a year had past, I contacted Steven for an update and never heard back. We had talked on Skype several times, so I tried to contact him there also. It became apparent the topic was closed! There never was a resolution to what they did! This group is a master of stonewalling and I feel they got the best of Steven. Perhaps this all happened when Steven was making his career move. As far as I know, no one at GPWA picked up where he left off.

    There is lots of questions to be answered but not much interest in the GPWA to get get answers.

    I am DEFINITELY interested in seeing this one through and learning what GPWA has found out.

    On an unrelated note, I did not realize that this group was Silver Sponsors here...

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