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Old 10th-April-2008, 12:20 PM
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What you guys at MeccaHosting are doing is totally unethical and deprecable. You are damaging the hard work of honest webmasters like Mojo. I think is better for you to change your terms and conditions before you lose all your customers and reputation!
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Old 10th-April-2008, 01:44 PM
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You almost have to laught at his twisted explanation of how SEO works. He thinks he's talking to a bunch of 12:00 flashers here.

If they have happy customers who are paying to host their domains on another domain??? then their customers must be amateurs who don't care that their homepage url is both long, and makes a pretty crappy email address extension...

Now for us serious SEO professionals, this is just too much bullshit to bear. Unbelievable and totally unacceptable. What can we do about this rogue hosting company? This arbitrary domain redirecting cannot continue.
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the only reason they have 100,000 pages indexed is off the backs of others.
Exactly!

I can't believe the audacity of some people.

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You may care to remember that we're all gambling affiliates here. Hence our SEO skills are honed to a fine edge. They have to be to compete in the online gaming industry.

Trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes here about search engine optimisation is going to backfire on you and Mecca Hosting.

As far as hosting a few members own reputable hosting companies, which btw they would never, ever do what Mecca Hosting has done to any of their clients, period.

I've seen the google cache and I couldn't believe it. This has to be one of the worst displays of dodgy, unethical and rogue like behaviour I've ever seen from an website hosting company.

It's obvious from your retorts that you don't have an issue with hijacking people's web sites; that is exactly what you've done to feather your own link popularity.

If it was up to me I'd be contacting each and every person who is currently having their website hosted at Mecca web Hosting and let them know about the unethical, black hat seo Mecca hosting has unleashed on these clients.

Performances like this is a formula for a class action law suit!




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Old 10th-April-2008, 04:34 PM
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Thanks everyone for trying. Obviously Mecca Hosting has no intention of changing what they are doing. I would be satisfied merely with them obtaining permission from their customers before proceeding with messing with addresses and google!

For some reason, this is not going to happen. That in itself speaks volumes.
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Old 10th-April-2008, 04:49 PM
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If it was up to me I'd be contacting each and every person who is currently having their website hosted at Mecca web Hosting and let them know about the unethical, black hat seo Mecca hosting has unleashed on these clients.
I would like to warn others too Dave. That is the intent of everyone at the GPWA I think. To stop things like this when we find them so others don't get hurt. I encourage everyone to share the link to this thread here in their SEO travels and correspondence.
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If anyone has a regular seo/webmaster forum that visit, feel free to pass this on.
Consider it done, I'm about to write a blog about this place.

Seeing they also geo target AU I feel it's my duty to inform my readers to beware of this hack hosting place.


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I would like to warn others too Dave. That is the intent of everyone at the GPWA I think. To stop things like this when we find them so others don't get hurt. I encourage everyone to share the link to this thread here in their SEO travels and correspondence.

Well we got the google cache at out disposal...


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The URL address does have the meccahosting.com address, but few visitors actually look closely at the URL; they only visit the website.
The above quote pretty much says it all.

Folks, if you own a website, and you own a domain name, that name is what people will identify with your site.....and that "url" is what the search engines identify YOUR website and YOUR content with.

What Mecca is doing, is taking YOUR content and showing YOUR content as being THEIRS. What that does is one of two things basically, 1) it tells google the content has been duplicated elsewhere, (duplicate content is a very bad thing) and 2) it attempts to give Mecca credit for YOUR work.

There is ZERO explanation that Mecca could tell us about what they are doing that would not fit in to one of those two scenarios I've breifly outline....it's either one or the other....and BOTH hurt the client.

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In this particular case, this customer requested that we remove the listing, which was done by specifying that search engines were no longer allowed to view the site; unfortunately, it can be several weeks before the search engines visit again to update their listings.
They take steps to cause as much search engine damage to the client as they can.!!??

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which was done by (Mecca) specifying that search engines were no longer allowed to view the site
Stating they do not benefit by this practice is just a plain wrong. In my opinion (an opinion shared by many here) They directly benefit by this practice because it shows someone else's content at an url with Mecca's domain name....which is then indexed as pages located within Mecca's website although the content is someone else's.

I link to my hosting clients, but when I do, I link DIRECTLY to them, and do not redirect an url owned by me and pointed at a client that is then advertised to the search engines. (that would be duplicate content....in fact an entire website duplicate. #1 site is the original domain and #2 site is the url owned by mecca that the search engines know about...same website, but at a different url...."DUPLICATE"

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Old 11th-April-2008, 07:36 AM
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Thank you for that Rick. What they did targeted google only. Or maybe it had only gotten that far. My url was completely wiped out. According to my tracker, mecca hostings url picked up every single google search and the traffic was mostly google searches. My url picked up everything else. I couldn't understand what was happening and thought I set it up wrong when I changed servers. Give them time and I'm sure they will start on yahoo.

Once I confirmed what was happening I considered duplicate content but thought, nah, they wouldn't do that to me! They are my hosting company ! Dup content is a big no no and harmful. All webmasters know to avoid this. I also noticed by back pages were being picked up by mecca hosting as well. More and more every day. Soon they would have had my entire sites.

I find it very difficult to believe I am the only complaint out of 10,000 (they claim). Some may not notice or have tracking set up but I'm sure there are many who would see.

I am glad to see this thread on page 1 of google for mecca hosting.
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I guess this thread being on page 1 of Google for Mecca Hosting shows how much more Mecca Hosting knows about search engines and SEO than we do huh?

Mecca Hosting, you had an opportunity here to do the right thing, and your statements earlier clearly show what you feel about your clients.

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