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    Default NetRefer Plot Thickens: APCW Perspectives for 27 January, 2017

    The issues surrounding some affiliate programs
    using NetRefer is getting a bit messy.
    Not only are they hiding webmaster statistical data,
    but some are lying about why this is taking place.
    Making matters worse, the Cashcade affiliate program
    is making questionable moves.

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    It's a shame that this such important data is being removed from so many affiliate eyes, if only these programs would know how many affiliates they are losing by this false action they would have add it asap !
    I also dont see any reason why to block this data actually... maybe they dont want the affiliate to know it's real player value... but just maybe I'm not sure

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    "I also dont see any reason why to block this data actually... maybe they dont want the affiliate to know it's real player value"

    This is exact the reason.
    The whole thing is a conspiracy because of the empty coffers in part of this industry. A conspiracy that has started some time ago and you'll see, it's not only a problem of NetRefer.

    In the moment, when you do not have both stats, deposits and withdrawals, you are unable to locate the players who will be booked temporarily or completely out of your account into a ghost account from the program where they remain until they are bankrupt. Then the rotten corpse will be booked back into the affiliate account and you wonder why this player does not continue being a high roller like in the past.

    The reason is simple: 1,000+ programs are too much. Not enough players who can feed all of them. So the logic consequence is that some programs mutates to a hustler.

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    As always very entertaining and educational Thanks J
    Last edited by Miles_Videoslots; 31 January 2017 at 8:25 am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles_Videoslots View Post
    As always very entertaining and educational Thanks J
    Funny comment from you considering that your affiliate program does not show any deposits, amounts, active players, gross revenue or any other vital information to the affiliates.

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    Funny comment from you considering that your affiliate program does not show any deposits, amounts, active players, gross revenue or any other vital information to the affiliates.

    Yes I'm aware of the fact that this is an issue and we have raised it .. We are trying to get some upgrades done and a plan put in place to rectify this and a few other issues we have with our current system.

    The idea is that at some point in time we can get the affiliate setup to match that of the casinos in all areas especially from a transparency point of view as we know how important this is.

    I cant put a line in the sand to say when this will be achieved but we are working hard on it .

    I also have sent this video around to senior management to show just how damaging it could be for a reputation but I can only do so much.

    THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN HEARD.

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    Interesting info in this episode!
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    www.igtpartners.com --> Register an account with "IGT Partners - Affiliate Program"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles_Videoslots View Post
    Yes I'm aware of the fact that this is an issue and we have raised it .. We are trying to get some upgrades done and a plan put in place to rectify this and a few other issues we have with our current system.

    The idea is that at some point in time we can get the affiliate setup to match that of the casinos in all areas especially from a transparency point of view as we know how important this is.

    I cant put a line in the sand to say when this will be achieved but we are working hard on it .

    I also have sent this video around to senior management to show just how damaging it could be for a reputation but I can only do so much.

    THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN HEARD.
    It is also funny that you once were among the most transparent programs when you showed all expenses such as license fees, bank fees etc. But you deliberately decided to turn these off for all affiliates without any good reason. You (VS) said it was a temporary thing but the years has passed since. I guess this was before you started working for Videoslots.

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    Ok I understand the frustrations this is causing and yes this was before my time but to say this was deliberate is using language that is a little harsh I believe.

    I know the system was lacking in a lot of ways in the past but the one thing it did do was show more financial information and was 100% more transparent your correct in saying that.

    The owners have gone a long way in rectifying the poor program with a much more user friendly version but its a baby and still needs to grow up .. we are working on it . We are working hard to get to a point where we can show what we need to show in order to give affiliates comfort and yes be more transparent by showing you business critical information.

    Why it was removed I cant say in fact I don't know as you say before my time.

    When it will be added back again I am unsure of a date what I am sure of is we have bought it to the attention of those concerned and will try our best to get it sorted in time.

    I'm just asking for your patience and understanding as these things take time I'm working on it ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles_Videoslots View Post

    Why it was removed I cant say in fact I don't know as you say before my time.
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    There is only one reason to remove this info, we know it you know it and they know it...

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    An interesting series of posts that I have been following. Looking forward to hearing the actual reasons and solutions with all concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles_Videoslots View Post

    Why it was removed I cant say in fact I don't know as you say before my time.
    Can you not just ask your boss?

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    Quote Originally Posted by APCW View Post
    The issues surrounding some affiliate programs
    using NetRefer is getting a bit messy.
    Not only are they hiding webmaster statistical data,
    but some are lying about why this is taking place.
    Making matters worse, the Cashcade affiliate program
    is making questionable moves.

    PS: We know we need to clean the camera lens... thanks.



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    NetRefer: http://www.gpwa.org/forum/netrefer-p...ts-230327.html
    Cashcade: http://www.gpwa.org/forum/cashcade-a...th-230419.html


    Was there ever any update on this?

    Can Netrefer not simply make all stats available to all affiliates on all programs?

    Also while they are at it, can they get rid of that awful new system? For a year now I've been using the old system on all my programs yet I still get thaose damned pop-ups every day asking me which system I want to use.

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