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  • No GPWA member should promote a casino like playboycasino.com.

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  • I wouldn't promote them, but don't think my views should be imposed on other webmasters.

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  • I wouldn't promote them, but it is fine for other webmasters if they do it tastefully.

    15 26.79%
  • I don't promote them now, but think I might start.

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  • My websites promote them already.

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    Question Is it OK to promote casinos that mix adult entertainment and gambling?

    The GPWA has long taken a firm stand against displaying or promoting pornography on gambling portal sites. In fact, the GPWA code of conduct, which private GPWA members agree to follow, prohibits mixing the two together on member sites.

    But what about when a portal site does not mix them together, but a casino that is being promoted has a brand and identity that mixes the soft side of adult entertainment together with gambling like playboycasino.com?

    There is a thread in the private forums where members expressed opinions on this topic, but I thought it was worth opening up the same discussion in the public forums with a poll on the topic.

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    No, I will never promote adult content, because I have some principles in my life. And I think if GPWA has a rule "No Adult" I think a GPWA member shouldn't promote it. But it's only my opinion and my principle.

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    I could to promote the adult content respecting the other person and I have some principles in my life.

    I have some principles in my life : if I have promised to help one person, I help him and I don't left it because I am too busy to do my website and I don't left it saying things not true .........


    I think that all webmatsers should not to do too confusion, one things is one casino and one things is one adult website. Other things is the prostitution.

    To promote playboycasino.com is one different form of marketing.
    Playboycasino.com with beautifull girl do her website more atractive. ( so almost it hope ).

    Las Vegas don't use beautifull girls to be more attractive ?

    don't Aksana use one beautifull girl to do her website more attractive ?

    I think that Gpwa and all member should promote one website as playbocasino.com with moderation.
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    Hi All,

    OK...thought I best get this out of the way first...lol

    I wont promote a casino that has a business model based around porn (soft or otherwise). For me its an ethical standpoint.

    However, I'll agree to disagree towards those who do promote places that mix porn with casinos.

    My thoughts are:

    Granted sex sells, but, at what cost?

    I've always felt that online casinos strive to resemble their land based counterparts. Probably the most famous of all...The Monte Carlo. To the best of my knowledge porn is not part of it.

    The online casino industry has imho fought hard to shake misconceptions about their business in general. The days of the industry being run by cowboys and having a wild west persona has reduced dramatically.

    If one casino starts using porn to promote/sell its product, does this open the gate for others to do the same? If so, what impact could this have on the industry a few years down the track?

    In closing, although like any business there are outlaws, I feel on a whole there are a good bunch of people who promote casinos and gambling in general. All have ethics and you wont find them doing dodgy stuff to get ahead at the coast of another webmaster.

    I can't say the same for the porn industry. IMHO if we we give credence to a casino to include porn then it wont be long till porn webmaster start becoming casino/gambling webmasters. At that stage I'll simple close up shop.

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    Our views are result of our past experiences ...

    I dislike many things that are legal and would never promote them :
    - guns, cigarettes, religious views and political propaganda ...


    But I've never had a bad experience with a porn star ....
    So I'm comfortable that people promote them tastefully.

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    I can't see adult/porn content in this casino site.
    Only some pretty girls in a seductive attitude.
    If you go to an agricultural trade show, you'll see girls in all the stands.
    Women sell more than men and casinos are not the exception

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    There was some discussion on whether playboy casino was even pornographic. IMO it is a moot point since the name playboy, that has been around for decades, is associated with porn like budweiser is associated with beer. I don't think it matters what the girls look like.

    The grey area I feel is the GPWA code of ethics in regards to porn. Since playboy is a casino and not a typical porn site I really don't see a problem if someone chooses to use it. It is also a respected business entity that has built a solid reputation through the years.

    I won't use it but that is me. I am happy to see personal opinions respected. There is not always a right and wrong, it's more of a personal choice.

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    My personal opinon is I am so sick and tired of seeing porn even soft porn on the net that is visable for children to see. It seems as though today's standards have been lowered as to content. I have found children games sites and no word of a lie I was going through them to make sure they were aceptable fo rthe kids. I hate flash sites so they are not allowed on those eitehr. Anyway the one game is very similar to lemonade tycoon. When you meet someone at the club you get to pick a doorbehind the door is a fully naked women.

    This is on a kids game website

    Now before anyone starts saying well kids are not going to see it and restirctions not to mention that it is an onlien casino I am just stating that we are allowing ourselves to disregard morals and ethics if this is what it takes to get people to play.

    Even in poker you see women at the major tournamnet who are barely wearing anything and everything they do have is hanging out. This not only demoralizing but a total disregard of all women. Yet they are what you hear about in blogs, and media. The women who are strong players, with a respect that is clearly visable of themselves well you may see a short article on what they did in the games but no where near the media attention than those who exploit their bodies.

    My point sex sells we all agree but when does it begin to be too much. When do we start to accept it as a normal everyday life to be able to have a women displayed as such...as just sex

    Second point, I of course am not promoting casinos. They are on my site but have never really took a look at them a whole lot, so is playboycasino in anyway shape or form directly or even indirectly related to Playboy/

    if yes well than I would not approve at all. even though it is a casino it is still the brand and the brand is what sells.

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    >> Is it OK to promote casinos that mix adult entertainment and gambling?


    i would say it depends on the degree. Nude is not acceptable.

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    Kaus,

    have you seen your avatar? apparently not because for me ..... its a very sexy look that gives the idea the woman is .... at best scantily clothed.

    now I say this to make a point. where's the line drawn? I admittedly have not checked out playboy's casino. but my question is .... do they have just sexy looking pictures such as Kaus' obviously sexy picture ? or do they go to the extreme of actual nude pictures?

    Gambling is an adult activity. So SHOULD be porn. I see no reason they cannot co-exist since it is the surfer's choice where they choose to play.

    Am I to understand that the same people against porn would not want a player who holds a porn membership at a porn site?

    highly doubtful. We're adults. While I don't promote playboy ... I've nothing against it. I think it is hypocritical to say you're against porn yet promote gambling. both are adult situations and up to the adult to make the decision whether they care to enter the activity at hand.

    In the case of porn ..... I don't know the actual results of experiments but I would think it would allow for a means of release ...... so to speak ..... that might otherwise elevate into criminal offenses against women. That's just my guess and i may be completely wrong. I might change my views on this subject if I were to learn differently.

    I know my views will not be applauded by some. .......perhaps many. I very much hope that will not change the fact that just as I respect your right to your opinion ... that you'll respect mine.

    I believe in a free world. Free as long as you aren't hurting someone else. There are arguements that gambling causes much more damage to the family and to the community than does porn because its true ..... you can't "porn" away your home but you can easily gamble it away.

    Regardless of the fact; i believe in the right to do so if that is your choice. I don't believe anybody has the right to tell another how to live (as long as it isn't hurting another) .... even when it is in your own best interest because its a slippery slope that soon slides into areas that I for one: don't want to live in a world where someone else decides what is best for me. We have too much of that already and which btw: is the basis for the laws passed in the states although we all know it really about money.

    I respect the decision of those not to promote this casino. I hoe they can respect my decision to not condemn those that do. Adult activities are just that: adult. I think an adult has the right to make their own decisions whether wise or not.
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    A sexy look but to me a beautiful women, who is fully clothed.

    I went to the site and yes they are dressed remotely from what you can see. .......lengerie mostly. However without downloaded I can not confirm but from the shots in the poker/casino downloads it shows a laptop flipping through screenshots to which oneof them looks like a casino bonus where you pick your prize...this happens to be one of many fully nude women.

    I wouldn't go as far as saying that porn can not break up a family because it sure can just as much as a player can turn into a habitual gambler.

    I think there is a difference between myself and those who indulge in the porn industry whether that be through gaming or actual porn itself. I do not harm, disrespect or demoralize anyone by what I do, nor will I just to obtain players. As a women myself if I went to a site that promotes this and seen any nudity there would be no way I would be going back.

    Everyone has there opinon on it and I do respect all views I am just sick and tired of even soft porn becoming acceptable both on the net and on tv. 5 am in the morning if you turn on a certain channel that is normally a local news station during the day it's friggen porn....

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    Nice girls on the sites who are closed aren't considered as adult content, they are only nice girls with sexy look like Kaus's avatar. BUT nude girls and casinos offering a party with such girls are adult content.

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    too late and too under the influence to say more than that if that is your real pic K:

    you're one really sexy and beautiful woman. you'll definitely attract the males.



    meant totally as a compliment. and I think should be an expected reaction to such a pretty face.
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    If we're just talking about Playboy, then I'm fine with that. But I wouldn't promote Playtechs and RTG's who used nudity or pornography as a selling tool. If it fits with the brand and the brand is well known and publically acceptable, that is okay with me.

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    I completely agree with gooner. I would not promote guns, cigarettes, strong religious views but porn in the form of on the playboy casino I dont see it as being a problem. Yet, if the GPWA choose to not support it I completely understand. I find the playboy casino to be a great casino with some great rewards for players with a strong future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bb1web View Post
    too late and too under the influence to say more than that if that is your real pic K:

    you're one really sexy and beautiful woman. you'll definitely attract the males.



    meant totally as a compliment. and I think should be an expected reaction to such a pretty face.

    Ha! Do I get more appealing with each drink....jk

    No it's not me of course but the image I chose for my header. I went on a hunt and found that most of the females that were displayed for casino/poker looked fake. They have this big grin like it's the best time of their lives, over done in makeup etc...I wanted something that was simple. I like simplicity.

    ....but I am a brunette

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    I think you picked a naturally beautiful woman
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    who is fully clothed
    my bad. its the white on white that threw me. looking closer today I see its a white top she's wearing and not nothing.

    sorry. it was an honest mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob3786 View Post
    I think you picked a naturally beautiful woman
    ... who's staring at people with "come hither" eyes ... WOW


    Let's face it if someone looked at men like that in the pub/club scene we'd be jelly ... sizzle ..

    A real strange choice for someone who doesn't want mass media or other webmasters to sell products using sex appeal ...

    err .. why not just use a photo of yourself ?

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    I didnt say that I dont think webmasters ca n not use sex appeal.....sex and sex appeal are two very seperate topics. A women fully clothed, dressed nice hair done nice can have more sex appeal than that of a women with her breasts showing. These are two differnet areas.

    A site with full frontal nudity in seductive poses what is the purpose of it? Is this what it takes to get players? I wouldnt think so but maybe I am mistaken. I was answering a question about GPWA and its standards. I really like this site for the fact that it makes you prove yourself first, it's what makes it unique to see many people on the same wave lentgh and that is quality. IMO

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