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    Quote Originally Posted by lots0 View Post
    Sandbox... LOL
    You both should read my interview with Aaron Wall... we talked Sandbox...wayyy back in 2005.. and I still don't think there is one... lol
    Some stupid SEO myths never go away...
    i have read one with Matt Cutts and he confirmed the sandbox does exist as a filter, granted it doesn't work in the exact same way that many people think but it does exist as a quality control filter for new sites
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    Quote Originally Posted by F.C.Dosh View Post
    I can assure you my site is past the sandbox phase, and my backlinks are slowly growing in numbers.

    Trouble started when the site got double in size overnight with duplicate content.


    And now I remember there is a semi automated link exchange going on my link exchange page, which had been there for a long time and never was a problem.

    But to be sure I gonna remove that also.(its java script anyway)
    what do you mean the site doubled with duplicate content? when did this happen? when did you start using the bot thing? do you have an upto date list of inbound links you can PM me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by F.C.Dosh View Post
    ...And now I remember there is a semi automated link exchange going on my link exchange page, which had been there for a long time and never was a problem.

    But to be sure I gonna remove that also.(its java script anyway)
    Ya that's a good idea.
    Stay far away from any automated link exchange, google hates them with a passion.
    The best link exchange policy is not to have one at all... IMO, or at least appear not to have one, let the links come as 'naturally' as possible
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebookiesoffers View Post
    what do you mean the site doubled with duplicate content? when did this happen? when did you start using the bot thing? do you have an upto date list of inbound links you can PM me?
    When I put the php link in the footer of every page on my site, there where 4 links in there.
    Because it was php, it generates new pages, so every page got 4 links to 4 new generated pages, and every time those 4 pages have the same content.

    Actually on those generated pages are also links, so I think I made google, and other searchbots run round in circles.... lol

    why do you need my inbound links?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lots0 View Post
    Ya that's a good idea.
    Stay far away from any automated link exchange, google hates them with a passion.
    The best link exchange policy is not to have one at all... IMO, or at least appear not to have one, let the links come as 'naturally' as possible
    and that is what I didn't want him going to google with still on the site
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebookiesoffers View Post
    and that is what I didn't want him going to google with still on the site
    But you said it was something on my main page, this was on a other page.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F.C.Dosh View Post

    why do you need my inbound links?
    because i want to have a look at the theory you don't have enough, especially if the little juice may have got really dilluted. I checked and only saw 6 in links from poor link exchange pages. the tool i used could be a little out of date though
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    Quote Originally Posted by F.C.Dosh View Post
    I just noticed this yellow square at google webmaster tools.



    I don't know if that has anything to do with it, as I cant really find out what it means.
    The yellow square is just a little bug in the dashboard I just found out, nothing to worry about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F.C.Dosh View Post
    But you said it was something on my main page, this was on a other page.
    You have a 'Link Exchange' link on your homepage, telling google you actively participate in link exchanges for ranking purposes
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebookiesoffers View Post
    i have read one with Matt Cutts and he confirmed the sandbox does exist as a filter, granted it doesn't work in the exact same way that many people think but it does exist as a quality control filter for new sites
    Actually Matt said the sandbox doid not exist
    In reply to a question from Brett Tabke, Matt said that there wasn't a sandbox...
    source:http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/002822.html

    Matt said at PubCon in 2005, I was there by the way, that the google Algo may appear to some sites that don't rank well as a 'sandbox like effect'.
    But it all has to do with the sites SEO... or lack of it. There is no sandbox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebookiesoffers View Post
    because i want to have a look at the theory you don't have enough, especially if the little juice may have got really dilluted. I checked and only saw 6 in links from poor link exchange pages. the tool i used could be a little out of date though
    I am quite sure that is not the case as I actually removed alot of outbound links from the site also before it happened.

    But you are right, I don't have that many strong inbound links.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebookiesoffers View Post
    You have a 'Link Exchange' link on your homepage, telling google you actively participate in link exchanges for ranking purposes
    ? Where does it say it is used for ranking purposes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebookiesoffers View Post
    You have a 'Link Exchange' link on your homepage, telling google you actively participate in link exchanges for ranking purposes
    No, asking for links or offering links will not get you banned, however, you most likely will lose some reputation with the SE's.. So it is best to stay away from them.

    I don't see anything on his page that said he wanted to exchange links for ranking.

    The real problem was that getseo code. That stuff is search engine poison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lots0 View Post
    Actually Matt said the sandbox doid not exist
    source:http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/002822.html

    Matt said at PubCon in 2005, I was there by the way, that the google Algo may appear to some sites that don't rank well as a 'sandbox like effect'.
    But it all has to do with the sites SEO... or lack of it. There is no sandbox.
    I have read the interview where he spoke about it being real, if you don't believe me fine, i don't really care. I have read the Cutts interview, seen the effects, spoke to some leading SEO's in the country, but if you don't believe me, not going to lose any sleep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebookiesoffers View Post
    I have read the interview where he spoke about it being real, if you don't believe me fine, i don't really care. I have read the Cutts interview, seen the effects, spoke to some leading SEO's in the country, but if you don't believe me, not going to lose any sleep.
    cool..
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    I had that link page for quite a while and I never noticed a negative response in the serps, maybe I should call it "directory" now lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by lots0 View Post
    No, asking for links or offering links will not get you banned, however, you most likely will lose some reputation with the SE's.. So it is best to stay away from them.

    I don't see anything on his page that said he wanted to exchange links for ranking.

    The real problem was that getseo code. That stuff is search engine poison.
    im losing the will to live with you, i really am. I have not mentioned getting banned, getting banned is something completely different to getting a penalty, and completely different to having a links devalued, although the links from link exchange pages are basically worthless anyway. Link to us and we will link to you pages are frown upon as they are there poorly to manipulate the rankings, google aren't stupid. (just to note that if a link exchange is done correctly google will like them and they will help, this isnt the way).
    You keep saying the getseo code was the problem but FC hasn't even said when exaclty he used it as google may have not been to visit and found it in that time
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    Quote Originally Posted by F.C.Dosh View Post
    I had that link page for quite a while and I never noticed a negative response in the serps, maybe I should call it "directory" now lol
    ... lol
    Now your catching on...


    Hope this works out for you. Please let us know how it goes.
    In my experience google will look at your site within two weeks after you submit the review request, sometimes much sooner.

    Keep any eye on the webmasters tools dash board for messages from google. They are getting fairly good now at keeping webmasters informed of what they re doing.

    Good Luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lots0 View Post
    ... lol
    Now your catching on...


    Hope this works out for you. Please let us know how it goes.
    In my experience google will look at your site within two weeks after you submit the review request, sometimes much sooner.

    Keep any eye on the webmasters tools dash board for messages from google. They are getting fairly good now at keeping webmasters informed of what they re doing.

    Good Luck!
    Heheh, no problem, will post all updates on the matter here. Thank you for your piece of the pie
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    Quote Originally Posted by F.C.Dosh View Post
    I had that link page for quite a while and I never noticed a negative response in the serps, maybe I should call it "directory" now lol
    but before you have never asked a member of the google spam team to come and manually check you site to make sure you are playing within the rules
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