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    Quote Originally Posted by DanHorvat View Post
    Yes. Happens every time when I access it for the first time in a while. Always works properly when I reload that page.
    It happens after ****** up logout somehow.
    Also I found bug that if you have 2fa auth and you do not logout with logout button, but just close the browser, you are not asked about PIN next time.

    They keep rolling update after update and they just make it worse. Exactly like IA.
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    I havent got good experience with affiliates.. Initially numbers will be good and later money loss

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    I'm reporting these (insert a word of your own choice) to UKGC and FCA for promoting bookmakers and casinos that aren't licenced by the UKGC.

    They're breaking their own T&Cs:
    11.2. It is strictly forbidden to make payments to or to receive payments from persons or entities offering illegal gambling services, including (but not limited to) illegal sports betting, casino games and poker games. We may suspend or terminate your Skrill Account at any time or refuse to execute or reverse a transaction if we believe that you directly or indirectly use or have used your Skrill Account for or in connection with illegal gambling transactions. This list is not exhaustive and it is your responsibility to ensure that you do not use our services for transactions that may be considered illegal in your jurisdiction.
    Yet they're the ones advertising them!

    24Bettle (Malta)
    bBets (Malta)
    KTO (Curacao)
    Bet Sensation (Curacao)
    SlotJoint (Curacao)
    Omni Slots (Curacao)
    King Billy (Curacao)
    Thebes Casino (Curacao)
    Tangiers Casino (Curacao)
    SpinPalace (Malta, Kahnawake)

    I'll let UKGC and FCA decide if this is an ok thing to do, which countries are they pushing these offers to, and whether it's ok to be advertising gambling as a financial service in the first place.

    If it isn't already obvious from some of my other threads, I've lost patience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock View Post
    Why do not you still use the card for payouts? Alternatively if Skrill works you can do neteller->skrill transfer for 1.5% or so, VIPs have it free from Silver.
    Both Neteller and Skrill discontinued/closed their MC Debit card to anyone outside SEPA countries. In doing so, they also blocked/prohibited payments to and from gambling venues, which also included affiliate payments.

    Unless the iGaming venue/affiliate program was licensed/regulated in Australia. Everything else is out-of-bounds.

    Previously used Neteller as my deposit/withdrawal method to casinos, and also for receiving aff payments. Hence, I now sit on 'Bronze'... So after this little mess happened, went to Ecopayz, who, for about 7 or 8 months, continued to permit the above prohibited payments. They also issued a MC card. However, and sadly, eventually they too pulled the pin, and followed suit with Neteller, Skrill etc., etc.

    The other things which was a major PITA were their wire transfers. UK residents on 'Gold' got wires the next day business day. But for me, it wasn't unusual for mine to take 10+ working days before hitting my AU bank. These things were slow. I mean if they were any slowly, they'd have be going backwards.

    I held a Neteller account since circa 2000. Up until around 2014 (as a VIP) they provide me both excellent service, and some rather nice promotional cash-kick-backs too. However from that year onward something radically changed there. They became increasingly 'tight fisted' and it was not unusual to be assigned a new VIP manager every 4 to 6 months. Aside for a couple of them, the rest were worse than useless.

    When your options are limited you take what you can get. These days getting direct wires from aff programs are quick, and far less costly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock View Post
    personal, silver VIP
    they keep asking the same questions, I keep sending them same statements, but the unblocks take longer and longer
    Like Neteller their system is a mess. Seems instead of biting-the-bullet and just setting up a brand new system from the ground up, they're doing what some AU Banks do... tack updated modules onto their failing system, which only causes more grief for customers.

    I'm not sticking up for Neteller/Skrill's horrid support, but imagine trying to work, every day, with a broken platform like this. Seems this company has long forgetting that without its customers, it's nothing...


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    Quote Originally Posted by DanHorvat View Post
    I'm reporting these (insert a word of your own choice) to UKGC and FCA for promoting bookmakers and casinos that aren't licenced by the UKGC.

    They're breaking their own T&Cs:
    11.2. It is strictly forbidden to make payments to or to receive payments from persons or entities offering illegal gambling services, including (but not limited to) illegal sports betting, casino games and poker games. We may suspend or terminate your Skrill Account at any time or refuse to execute or reverse a transaction if we believe that you directly or indirectly use or have used your Skrill Account for or in connection with illegal gambling transactions. This list is not exhaustive and it is your responsibility to ensure that you do not use our services for transactions that may be considered illegal in your jurisdiction.


    Yet they're the ones advertising them!
    Excellent catch. On login to Neteller, I get offers from the following, which, in accordance to the 2017 AU IGA Federal Laws, are illegal gaming venues, and are not allowed to accept AU players.

    1xBet (Not Blocking AU - not au fait with AU sportsbooks, so not sure if it's AU licensed/regulated. Though the casino certainly isn't)
    Playzee (Blocking AU traffic - the only venue blocking AU traffic)
    Sensation (Not AU Blocked)
    LuckMe Slots (Not AU Blocked)
    KTO sportsbook casino (Not AU Blocking)
    SlotoBoss (Not AU blocked)
    Bossgs (Not AU Blocked)

    Neteller are fully aware my account is from Australia, because they specifically sent me an email to say it's illegal for them to process illegal gaming funds.So why are they promoting these illegal casinos/sportsbooks to me? And most, if not all are Malta and or Curacao. With KTO seeming to hold a license in Ireland.

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    I did not know that the system is so much crippled out of SEPA. I am not in Europe, but for that reason I keep using my European address at some places (like ewallets). But I did not know the difference is so big.

    In your case just a proxy address in SEPA area might solve the problem. No one asked me ever if I really live in Europe. Maybe it is way too easier for me as EU passport holder, but I have seen people out of EU setting up Skrill and Revolut just with the proxy address.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock View Post
    Maybe it is way too easier for me as EU passport holder
    Can easily obtain an EU address (relatives in Denmark - yes, decent of bona fide Vikings) but the photo ID, that's the problem. In your case your passport is the 'Golden Key'.
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    I think in case of Skrill, the IP is the key. If you can get IP from DK that is not some VPN, you are golden. I keep for that purpose normal computer with remote desktop in Europe, because nowadays all are suddenly crazy about IP addresses (which is a nonsense in the day of free roaming.

    The ID card was not a problem. They always wanted to verify address by letter. Idk, maybe times changed. If you want to try that, prepare the address and the IP address. Try to log once or twice from "Denmark", then write them a letter from confused customer that you recently moved to Denmark for 1 year, probably more. And that you have no idea if your old address should be still on file, because so far you do not have bank account yet and in 2 or 3 years max you will move back. You might even add a note that you are very happy with your Aussie address. They for sure will tell you that you need to register the DK address.

    The worst that can happen is that this trick fails and you will start using AU address and tell them that you had to move back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AussieDave View Post
    Both Neteller and Skrill discontinued/closed their MC Debit card to anyone outside SEPA countries.
    You`re sure about that? I moved to Thailand 18 month ago and my Skrill MC will expire in September. To receive a new one i would need to change account details. Verification wouldn't be a problem but if they don't issue new cards for non-SEPA account holders I wouldn't do anything and just transfer funds to a bank account instead of using the card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eenzoo View Post
    You`re sure about that? I moved to Thailand 18 month ago and my Skrill MC will expire in September. To receive a new one i would need to change account details. Verification wouldn't be a problem but if they don't issue new cards for non-SEPA account holders I wouldn't do anything and just transfer funds to a bank account instead of using the card.
    You should double-check this on other forums.
    I live in Switzerland (in the heart of Europe) and both Skrill and Neteller cancelled my Mastercard about 1-2 years ago.
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    It is another confusion by Skrill. They claim card is available for SEPA countries, but in reality it is even more restricted.

    Today I cleaned my accounts, I will keep just the USD just for 1xbet and no money will be at Skrill over 5 minutes. I advise anyone else to do the same. They are making problems even when there are no problems. I can not imagine to solve a real problem with them.
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    Time for another rant.

    After managing to get my Skrill account active again (it took almost a month), Neteller made me re-verify my address for which they already have documents. In both cases my account was instantly locked without warning and my funds held.

    One day I couldn't even open the Skrill website, they locked me out based on my ISP's IP, I guess. When I accidentally leave my VPN on, I can't access the website either.

    I'll once again repeat my Skrill card POS payments are regularly getting declined when I'm abroad. Can't even buy a croissant with ham and cheese on Earl's Court with this crappy card without problems.

    Skrill and Neteller have a baaaaaad problem with security. That's why they get so many false positives, they're stomping on normal users because obviously any criminal can have his way with Skrill and Neteller as they're too weak to fight them.

    Hence the checks, shuns, CAPTCHAs, declined transactions. Sometimes I have to login twice. That's how you show you don't really know what you're doing - when you resort to harassment (1xbet has a similar problem). The most secure sites are those that keep the front end operational without annoying the user, with strong security procedures hidden in the background.

    They make it seem as if they're some regulated bank or whatever, doing these checks for the greater good of anti-money laundering etc. But that's just an excuse, they're doing it only because they're incompetent.

    Whoever is insisting on CAPTCHA so much has a security problem, as CAPTCHA is the equivalent of putting your finger on the hole to try to stop the water leak.

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    Something else is bugging me.

    Neteller and Skrill have basically become FX or, if you will, binary options websites. They're advertising their "crypto" wherever they can, and I'd be using it if I could actually own Bitcoin.

    But no. You just place your bet on it. Binary options style.

    They now call the account balance "assets", obviously to cater to the crypto investors.

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    A huge banner for Syndicate Casino is on my Neteller account home page, plus 6 other offers. Needless to say, it's a Curacao casino.

    So Neteller/Skrill is now a platform for crypto "trading" and for claiming offers from unlicenced casinos that are possibly scams.

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    These companies are now very close to being utter crap. Sadly I must use them because it's the only way to get my affiliate commissions. But I might have to start recommending alternative payment methods to my players. This can't go on much further.

    Rant over. But the reasons for the rant won't disappear anytime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AussieDave View Post
    Both Neteller and Skrill discontinued/closed their MC Debit card to anyone outside SEPA countries.
    I am Russian citizen (outside Sepa). Both - Neteller and Skrill - send to me new debit cards. I don't use Neteller card, but Skrill card work OK in Russia and Thailand. As i know other Russsian affiliates use Skrill MC debit cards without any problems.

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    So go here right now and check out your exclusive offers for this month. Whether you like a bet, play poker, bingo or love online casinos ...
    take some of this month's offers right now while you have this email open.
    I just got this spam from Skrill. There is nothing about 18+. I am curious if they are sending this to UK residents as well.
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    They just came back with VIP programme. It is not so long as they called off the previous one. Which was not so long new. So this new one, Knect, will be over soon.

    They offer 10 for 10K transacted. Better than nothing. But unless I am missing smallprint, it does not work indeed. I am getting some 1000 pointers, but my transactions are higher than 1000. Maybe it is capped at 1000 points, but that makes not much sense.
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    Is there anyone else having problems requesting bank withdrawal from Skrill?

    I have requested bank withdrawals several times this year and it worked fine, but now I'm seeing an error message with a funny snow man image saying "something went wrong, please try again".

    Skrill support asked to delete cookies, to wait 48 hours, etc. and nothing worked. Yesterday they told me "We will unfortunately not be able to process the transactions at this time."
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    Got this email yesterday from Skrill (notifications@paysafe.com) that says my account will be terminated due to not being fully verified. But, when I log in to my account, it says the account is fully verified and there are no signs of the pending closure. Any advice?

    Dear Customer,

    We are contacting you with regards to your Skrill account.

    Albeit several details on your account have been verified, we can see that full merchant account verification is still pending.

    We are not in a position to offer services to unverified merchant accounts and as a result your account needs to be terminated. We would kindly ask you to withdraw any remaining balance as the change will take place 30 days following this notification (on 21st January 2020).

    In case you intend to use our services for business purposes, please feel free to apply for a new company account here.

    If you prefer to use our services for private purposes, you could register a personal account on [www]skrill.com] by using an e-mail address, which is not registered in the Skrill system.



    We apologize for any inconvenience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Roman View Post
    Got this email yesterday from Skrill (notifications@paysafe.com) that says my account will be terminated due to not being fully verified. But, when I log in to my account, it says the account is fully verified and there are no signs of the pending closure. Any advice?
    Got the same one here, my kneejerk reaction was it was a phishing email.....but, the contact details do seem genuine. Going to contact them directly as my account is also fully verified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newcustomeroffer View Post
    Got the same one here, my kneejerk reaction was it was a phishing email.....but, the contact details do seem genuine. Going to contact them directly as my account is also fully verified.
    Very odd, I havn't had it, but from looking at it my first thoughts are it does read like a phishing email at first glance. It is not very well worded at all, I would be suspicious too.
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    It is true, I'm struggling with this since over a month. Seems there is a mass purge of old / smaller merchant accounts.

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