So what's Roulette like to promote?

[theshortstack]

Having picked up a pretty good roulette domain, I'm wondering what the game is like to promote:

- Whats player value like?
- Is it hard to find casinos that allow players to clear their bonus at the roulette table?
- What kind of information are people looking for when they want to play the game?
- Is there anything in particular I should be aware of?

Thanks a lot for your help in advance. Much appreciated!!

[davemerry]

Roulette is the way to go, it is the most profitable casino game here at Castle and we always do the best with our roulette affiliate sites. In answer to your question:

1. Whats player value like?
The highest of the table games from my experience. I've found roulette players are generally wager faster and with more aggression than blackjack and baccarat players. I've seen players lose £100k+ in one night at the roulette table. It is a high risk game and has some of the lowest payout odds.

2. Is it hard to find casinos that allow players to clear their bonus at the roulette table?
Not to my knowledge, I would much prefer that everyone cleared it at the roulette table .

3.What kind of information are people looking for when they want to play the game?

Nothing out of the ordinary, software, whether it is live or RNG, payout rates. Also their are several variants of roulette, European, American etc. make sure you list these out.

4. Is there anything in particular I should be aware of

Hmmm... nothing out of the ordinary once again.

What domain did you pick up? PM me if you don't want to release it to the wider world yet

[theshortstack]

2. Is it hard to find casinos that allow players to clear their bonus at the roulette table?
Not to my knowledge, I would much prefer that everyone cleared it at the roulette table .

Thanks for the in-depth reply Dave - much appreciated.

Just in relation to your point above, I seem to have found it really difficult to find casinos who will allow players to complete 100% of their wagering requirements at the Roulette table. Some of them will allow 50% at best while most won't go anywhere near that.

Am I just not looking in the right place? Can anyone point main the direction of casinos that will allow 100% waging?

Cheers

[universal4]

Actually Dave,

Just days vefore this thread started, I had started a thread in the private section asking for recommendations on properties that allowed players to clear a bonus on roulette....

.....and the list of recommendations so far is much shorter than you think....

...but based upon your response above, I certainly will likely let this be the reason for me to get off the fence..... lol

Thanks.....

Rick
Universal4

[casdirs]

I've actually thought about this a long time ago, but never did anything with it yet. Roulette tables make an absolute fortune at the casino, and they are always busy too. It would probably be exactly the same online. I might have to start a niche roulette website next year, sounds like a great idea. I think roulette and slots are probably two of the most popular casino games (online and offline).

[BastaCasino]

Nice info. I always thought that slots was the way to go. Maybe I should look into the whole roulette thingy. But yeah. Roulette is the Rolls Royce of Casino. It's very easy to play. like slots. So makes sense.

[davemerry]

I'm actually quite surprised to hear that, I understand Blackjack and Baccarat but not Roulette. Would be interested to see whether any casino reps can shed light on why 100% wagering is so rarely found.

As well as knowing the payout odds and owning UK based roulette affiliate sites I've read several 'Become a professional gambler' books, not with the intention of gambling, but to learn about the other side of the table. Every single one of these has said stay away from the roulette table like the plague.

The only thing I can think of is that the roulette table allows the player to place low risk wagers, such as even bets on Black and Red simultaneously, which will allow them to clear the wagering requirements minimal losses. At Castle we do have something called a 'Good faith' clause (I hate the saying as it is hard to define exactly!), this can be implemented in cases like that where the intent is solely to run down wagering requirements. It's not hard to spot when that is the case....

I stick by what I said originally, roulette is the way to go. It's the high rollers favourite game.

...but based upon your response above, I certainly will likely let this be the reason for me to get off the fence..... lol

Lol Rick you need to jump of that fence!

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[baldidiot]

I'm actually quite surprised to hear that, I understand Blackjack and Baccarat but not Roulette. Would be interested to see whether any casino reps can shed light on why 100% wagering is so rarely found.

As well as knowing the payout odds and owning UK based roulette affiliate sites I've read several 'Become a professional gambler' books, not with the intention of gambling, but to learn about the other side of the table. Every single one of these has said stay away from the roulette table like the plague.

The only thing I can think of is that the roulette table allows the player to place low risk wagers, such as even bets on Black and Red simultaneously, which will allow them to clear the wagering requirements minimal losses. At Castle we do have something called a 'Good faith' clause (I hate the saying as it is hard to define exactly!), this can be implemented in cases like that where the intent is solely to run down wagering requirements. It's not hard to spot when that is the case....

I stick by what I said originally, roulette is the way to go. It's the high rollers favourite game.


Lol Rick you need to jump of that fence!

Roulette bonuses with low WR are very likely beatable... I'll PM you rather than post it openly for obvious reasons.

[GCG]

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The affiliates will receive their share of earnings for every player brought to BetCruise for the duration of 5 years.

[Renee]

Would be interested to see whether any casino reps can shed light on why 100% wagering is so rarely found.

Probably because a large percentage of roulette players happen to use it to satisfy the wagering requirements after winning big, without losing their money because depending on how you play, it's pretty easy to do on roulette.

Hedgebetting is another thing that comes to mind with roulette.

[Nicole BetCruise]

BetCruise & BetRaiser.com cut off earnings after 5 years..........just saying!

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[LiveCasinoPartners]

Out of all of the live dealer games, roulette by far generates the most amount of revenue. Baccarat is in second place followed by blackjack in third place. I think that Asian gaming would be different (Baccarat probably would be #1).

The payout percentages are better for roulette than baccarat and blackjack, which is convenient. Baccarat and blackjack will have a theoretical payout of above 99%, which makes it hard to give out competitive bonuses when compared to other casinos that have online slots. Some casinos (ie. Europartners) will exclude all of the live games from meeting the wagering requirements. Others go halfway by only excluding baccarat and blackjack (>99%) leaving live roulette to count towards the wagering requirements (dublinbet and luckylivecasino). CelticCasino offers a cash back where all games count towards wagering requirements.

Like Dave mentioned (CastleCasino.com) there is a "good faith" clause I've seen at most casinos that help deter players from artificially boosting the wagering requirement with little or no risk.

Good thread.

[universal4]

I was hoping you would post on this Adrian as I was very interested in hearing your thoughts on this.....

Thank you very much for your thoughts....

Adrian are you saying then that the live version of the roulette game is ok for the wagering requirement but not a software based version?

I would very much like to see more input from other operators (other than a simple promo to join their program)....

This is a great discussion and it is good to help affiliates know where a few operators stand on this.....

It is kinda frustrating to get banners and other creatives for a property that promote roulette (or blackjack, craps or other game) only to find out the bonus listed is a slots only bonus..... (I will often just remove any frames within the .gif that show the bonus)

Rick
Universal4

[LiveCasinoPartners]

Hey Rick,
Yes you are right. It's very frustrating to take a bonus with the expectation to play the live games and then find out they don't apply. This would be a deal breaker for me
.
Here's what I've seen at some of the casinos that offer live dealer games. Grouping is based on bonus restrictions which also fit nicely into software providers as well.

Europartners (Playtech: Vegas Red, Europacasino, Tropez etc.)
RNG Roulette: Does count towards calculating the wagering requirements.
Live Roulette: None of the live games counts towards the wagering requirements. They could have changed this recently, but this is my understanding to date.

Dublinbet, LuckyLiveCasino, Helleniclivecasino (Vuetec)
RNG Roulette: They do count towards the wagering requirements.
Live Roulette: They do count towards the wagering requirements.
Other live games are excluded from counting towards the wagering requirements.

CelticCasino, CastleCasino
RNG and Live Roulette do count towards the wagering requirements. Other live games are excluded due to their respective super high payout ratios.

Cheers!