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Old 11th-February-2003, 07:46 PM
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Hi Everyone,

I am new to the game of casino affiliate marketing, (this is my first post here ), but I have a lot of experience from search engine positioning.

My new site will go online in a couple of weeks, and I have been trying to get to grips with learning a bit about the online casino industry. I think I am slowly learning the ropes, (this forum has been very helpful), but I have one question that I hope that I can get some advice on.

I am planning a lengthy article teaching all the tricks about "bonus hustling" on my web site, but I am worried about how this will go down with my new partners, the casinos?

Alby
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Old 11th-February-2003, 08:08 PM
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Alby, the way you make money in this business is to get players that download and deposit! Not download, play a bonus then blow the casino off, either winning or. If you try to teach people how to hustle the casinos I doubt you will have many casinos wanting you as an affiliate. Just my opinion.
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Old 11th-February-2003, 08:26 PM
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Really! That sounds like not so good a business plan to me, and I'm pretty sure the casinos wouldn't appreciate it.

Your business plan should target real gamblers, whether pros or those who play for entertainment - but *not* bonus hunters. They need to go out and get jobs, and stop trying to take advantage of casinos to rake in what free money they can.

But let me add a definition here -

Bonus Hunter - Someone who looks for and takes advantage of bonuses offered by casinos to either test them out, or keep them as players. I welcome these to my site.

Bonus Abusers - Those who take advantage of the casinos by depositing the minimum required and playing the minimum required in order to cash out the free bonus money, with no intention of ever really playing. I don't want these anywhere near my site.
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Old 12th-February-2003, 11:33 AM
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I completely agree with SlyCin56 on this matter
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Old 12th-February-2003, 01:15 PM
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I agree with all the posts from above.

That being said, however, here's what I'd do in your situation. Make two gambling portals. One that is a standard portal (looks like everyone else's) that you register with the casino, and one that is your "bonus hustling" portal that you don't register with the casinos. Just use your same affiliate IDs for each portal, and the casinos will probably never know about the "bonus hustling" portal.

Just an idea.

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Old 12th-February-2003, 01:42 PM
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Thanks for your comments, I appreciate it.

My web site will be different from the majority of casino affiliate sites that I have seen that are just carrying a few banners with a limited amount of information, (I am not talking about GPWA members of course ). My site will be more comprehensive and offer information about the mathematics of each game, a number of in-depth articles about different gambling topics and lengthy reviews about a number of casinos. Something similar to The Wizard of Odds , but more focused. It was in this context I wanted to offer an article about "bonus hustling". The article would cover most of the subjects in Bill Haywood's book, Beat the Online Casinos, but compressed into around 2000 words.

However, after your comments I think I may be "pushing the line" with this article a bit, and I will re-think. My thought process was that "bonus hustling" is very similar to card counting in blackjack; People love to play the game because they know it is beatable, but 99.5% of all people playing don't have the discipline to learn even the simplest card counting system. It is the fact that they know how it can be beaten that makes them want to play. It doesn't really matter that they can't actually beat the game themselves. On the other hand, since the land casinos are not even clever enough to accept the fact that card counting is actually good for them, because it gets players interested in the game, it might be a leap of faith to think that online casinos will consider "bonus hustling" as something positive.

Once again, I really appreciate your advice.

Alby
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Old 12th-February-2003, 10:02 PM
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What do you hope to accomplish teatching ppl bonus hustling ?
I dont get the point of that.

Its not that funny when they sign up under you and take away your profits, atleast not for me
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Old 13th-February-2003, 01:53 PM
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Rat,

Well the idea was that people aren't going to be disciplined enough to actually make bonus hustling work for them, but if it was explained mathematically to them how valuable the bonuses really are maybe they would then feel confident that they have an advantage, and be more willing to place their first bet online.

The basis of my web site is to offer accurate, in-depth and mathematically correct advice, in the hope that serious gambler would appreciate the information and gamble at the casinos recommended by me. However, I am now re-thinking the bonus hustling idea, after the advice given here.

As I said, I am new to this business even though I know a fair amount about gambling in general. It is a steep learning curve.

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Old 14th-February-2003, 10:50 PM
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alby, I like greedy's idea - have 2 websites - one a portal if you want to do a portal - the other a site on systems and everything you talked about - as long as it isn't cheating there is nothing wrong with what you want to do -
bonus hustling - if you do have a good system ...it is worth a few dollars as a downloadable ebook or a members only site- email me if interested in selling your information to the end user - i might be able to help you -
information is the best business to get into - - - - it costs you nothing to make - free to sell minus credit card fees and it is 99.999999% labor free.
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Old 17th-February-2003, 09:01 PM
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Thanks xbookie,

I appreciate the offer.

I am also in the "content" providing business in other areas of ecommerce and I agree that it is one of the best businesses to be in. However, in this case I am trying to offer loads of great content for free in order to create a "sticky" site that is trustworthy and usable.

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