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    Quote Originally Posted by NHLinden View Post
    Banned is a strong word.
    We're not working with him anymore, nor will we do so in the near future.
    I've posted that I've found another site (just like the original hacker site) WITH your brand on it.

    Quote Originally Posted by antihacker View Post
    A new case on which your brand is on too:

    warsztatyszczecinek. eu/ ?p=Deuces-wild-video-poker

    Obviously http:// warsztatyszczecinek. eu/ has nothing to do with casinos.


    http:// ads2.williamhill. com/redirect.aspx?pid=182609514&bid=1487410909&lpid=14 87410763 is the affiliate in this particular one.

    Perpetrating site: http:// promocasino. ru/
    Could WELL be the same. IMHO it IS the same!

    Ban him AND ALL WHO WORK WITH HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This is EXACTLY what I was afraid for: Just give him another account...

    Nice one.

    Do you realize just how much this is shitting in my face? I've lost all thanks to this madafaka.

    Banning a strong word my ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony View Post
    I can confirm Nadav was not on the thread notification list, he has now been added. When I contacted Nadav regarding the hacker, he promptly replied to my email, then posted in the forum. We will be reviewing all the notification listings will all our sponsor programs to make sure they are up to date.
    Ahh, let's see... Oh rrrright... Platinum sponsor... I get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NHLinden View Post
    Hi,

    I cannot reveal payments information on the forum.
    A simple no (or yes in your case) would be enough. This reveals nothing BUT just how crooked you are. And, besides that, do you realize just how much this leaves open for speculation? You won't say no, you won't say yes. Any honest program would state no. Others did, you know? With other words, you simply pay him, and work with his organization.

    Quote Originally Posted by NHLinden View Post
    No affiliate, no matter what he does, would like his payment or stats details revealed here.
    I know. My personal details HAVE been shared here by the same madafaka you protect. Or, by his accomplish who is now more than likely looking after his relationship with you..

    Quote Originally Posted by NHLinden View Post
    What I wrote so far should be enough to understand how we see things and how we're acting on this instance


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    Take a tea bag. Make 1000000000000000000 cups of tea with this bag.

    Your answer is as strong as the 10000000000000000001th cup.

    Steve says to his accomplish, you just deal with them now, and voila.

    I call fraud. And I call it out loud.

    I hope you get rogued. I'll never work with you. And I hope others will too BAN you.

    Shame on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NHLinden View Post
    Banned is a strong word.
    We're not working with him anymore, nor will we do so in the near future.
    I admit I do not know all of the details here but it appears to me that your program has profited from this hacker.

    What does 'pausing' mean? I have had sites steal from me and AM's shut them down instantly. Banned is NOT a strong word and 'near future' is scary! I wouldn't hang around for the near future. Notification list or not, it's unacceptable.

    As an Affiliate Manager your duty is to affiliates. How do you plan on making amends for affiliates losses and your profit? There seems to be a gross injustice here. JMO!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mojo View Post
    I admit I do not know all of the details here but it appears to me that your program has profited from this hacker.

    What does 'pausing' mean? I have had sites steal from me and AM's shut them down instantly. Notification list or not, it's unacceptable.

    As an Affiliate Manager your duty is to affiliates. How do you plan on making amends for affiliates losses and your profit? There seems to be a gross injustice here. JMO!
    Tell me about it. I've lost all of my business thanks to me trying to get this hacker. Literally all. I HAVE been exposed by him after one affiliate program decided to share my personal details with him (including phone, bank details, all my sites, address, the lot), and lost out big time. This is besides the countless days / weeks and even months I've spent on trying to expose him.

    If you want some more info on this hacking case, I gladly invite you to read up on it on my thread here

    Want to know how hard I've been hit over this, check my second last post on that thread.

    This is what is so bad and gets me so frigging angry. My blood is boiling!! I've lost most of my sites, 99% of my income and what have you not.

    Pauzed. When my life has been destroyed. Can I rewind?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mojo View Post
    I admit I do not know all of the details here but it appears to me that your program has profited from this hacker.

    What does 'pausing' mean? I have had sites steal from me and AM's shut them down instantly. Banned is NOT a strong word and 'near future' is scary! I wouldn't hang around for the near future. Notification list or not, it's unacceptable.

    As an Affiliate Manager your duty is to affiliates. How do you plan on making amends for affiliates losses and your profit? There seems to be a gross injustice here. JMO!
    Hi,

    As I mentioned before, I cannot share the exact details of we've done here, but we will not work with this affiliate in the future.
    And trust me, we did not profit from this "partnership".

    What happened to affiliates following hacking cases like this is very unfortunate, but there are legal entities who's job is to help on cases like this, we cannot get involved more than we already have been.
    We have done the only thing we could have, stopped working with this person.

    Thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by antihacker View Post
    A simple no (or yes in your case) would be enough. This reveals nothing BUT just how crooked you are. And, besides that, do you realize just how much this leaves open for speculation? You won't say no, you won't say yes. Any honest program would state no. Others did, you know? With other words, you simply pay him, and work with his organization.



    I know. My personal details HAVE been shared here by the same madafaka you protect. Or, by his accomplish who is now more than likely looking after his relationship with you..



    Take a tea bag. Make 1000000000000000000 cups of tea with this bag.

    Your answer is as strong as the 10000000000000000001th cup.

    Steve says to his accomplish, you just deal with them now, and voila.

    I call fraud. And I call it out loud.

    I hope you get rogued. I'll never work with you. And I hope others will too BAN you.

    Shame on you.
    Hi,

    I couldn't find us on the Russian site you sent, if you can show me the specific page we'll get on it right away.

    As for verfiedcasinos.com, we're not paying him, we're not working with him anymore nor we will in the future, I hope that's a strong enough answer for you.
    We're not protecting him with not revealing more details, we're protecting ourselves.

    It's your right to choose not work with us, but blaming us in covering for hackers just because I'm not revealing all the details you want, is not a route I'm sure you should follow.

    Thanks,

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    Personally, I understand that you cannot share much of the details of your relationship (past relationship) between your company and this hacker. I also understand that by telling us publicly that you're no longer working with this person is probably pushing the envelope of what you can share.

    My hope is that your company reported this individual to the appropriate "legal entities who's job is to help on cases like this". I'm not asking you to confirm that you have, I'm just communicating a hope.

    Quote Originally Posted by NHLinden View Post
    Hi,

    As I mentioned before, I cannot share the exact details of we've done here, but we will not work with this affiliate in the future.
    And trust me, we did not profit from this "partnership".

    What happened to affiliates following hacking cases like this is very unfortunate, but there are legal entities who's job is to help on cases like this, we cannot get involved more than we already have been.
    We have done the only thing we could have, stopped working with this person.

    Thanks,

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    How is it not possible to profit from the partnership? Please explain.

    Quote Originally Posted by NHLinden View Post
    Hi,

    As I mentioned before, I cannot share the exact details of we've done here, but we will not work with this affiliate in the future.
    And trust me, we did not profit from this "partnership".

    What happened to affiliates following hacking cases like this is very unfortunate, but there are legal entities who's job is to help on cases like this, we cannot get involved more than we already have been.
    We have done the only thing we could have, stopped working with this person.

    Thanks,

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    Dear reader,

    there's many a slip twixt cup and lip!

    Before giving too much applause you should read carefully what is written black on white!
    If you know the way, e.g. UN resolutions are written, you know, what I mean.

    Example: U.N. Security Council | Resolution 242

    The Security Council did not say Israel must withdraw from "all the" territories occupied after the Six-Day war. Indeed, every word missing or added counts. It's a fact, that Security Council did say Israel [ONLY] must withdraw from [ANY] "occupied territory" and that can be a square feet.

    The word "all" is a historical example, how important it is to read things carefully.

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    We have paused our deal with this affiliate and have asked to be removed from his site.
    Quote Originally Posted by NHLinden View Post
    We're not working with him anymore, nor will we do so in the near future.
    Are you following me?

    Leopold
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    Quote Originally Posted by grem View Post
    How is it not possible to profit from the partnership? Please explain.
    Unfortunately it is very possible to not profit from a partnership.
    You simply pay a certain amount that is smaller than the amount you earn, and there you go...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roulette Zeitung View Post
    Dear reader,

    there's many a slip twixt cup and lip!

    Before giving too much applause you should read carefully what is written black on white!
    If you know the way, e.g. UN resolutions are written, you know, what I mean.

    Example: U.N. Security Council | Resolution 242

    The Security Council did not say Israel must withdraw from "all the" territories occupied after the Six-Day war. Indeed, every word missing or added counts. It's a fact, that Security Council did say Israel [ONLY] must withdraw from [ANY] "occupied territory" and that can be a square feet.

    The word "all" is a historical example, how important it is to read things carefully.

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    Hi,

    I have to say I'm not really following you, and I'm not really sure why you bring politics into this.

    The issue raised on this post have been dealt with, and the involved affiliates have been updated here, publicly, with as much transparency as privacy laws allow.
    I'm not sure what more you expect...but what I posted here so far will have to do anyway.

    Thanks,

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    "You simply pay a certain amount that is smaller than the amount you earn, and there you go..."

    But what you pay is a percentage of the amount that WH earns. Twenty percent of something small is still, eighty percent for your company. And you do have a negative carry over so there you go...

    You and your company take everyone for an idiot here don't you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xecutable View Post
    "You simply pay a certain amount that is smaller than the amount you earn, and there you go..."

    But what you pay is a percentage of the amount that WH earns. Twenty percent of something small is still, eighty percent for your company. And you do have a negative carry over so there you go...

    You and your company take everyone for an idiot here don't you.
    I don't take anyone here for an idiot.

    Rev share is one of many deal models we work on, and the risk on it is indeed minimal.

    However, if a deal is a CPA deal, things are not as simple as you put it.
    We could very well end up paying more than what the players we acquire bring in, hence us not making any profit on the deal with this specific affiliate.
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    You and your company take everyone for an idiot here don't you.
    Again, williamhill is the worst company every seen! I donīt understand webmasters who deal anymore with this company, steal your money is all what they can!

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    Yes thanks for explaining to me what a CPA deal is. Unwilling to ban an affiliate, who's partnership is extremely unprofitable for WH, and is involved in criminal activity. Excuse us for being skeptical but it just doesn't add up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xecutable View Post
    Yes thanks for explaining to me what a CPA deal is. Unwilling to ban an affiliate, who's partnership is extremely unprofitable for WH, and is involved in criminal activity. Excuse us for being skeptical but it just doesn't add up.
    Please refer to my previous posts to see what actions we've taken.

    We asked to be removed from his site (and we were), we stopped his payments, we stopped working/communicating with him, and we will not work with him again.
    Details of what other actions we took I cannot share here, sorry.

    I don't think you can get much more "banned" than that.

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    Well,...

    Affiliates United: "What do I care about my silly talk from yesterday?"

    Quote Originally Posted by NHLinden
    We have paused our deal with this affiliate and have asked to be removed from his site.
    Quote Originally Posted by NHLinden
    We're not working with him anymore, nor will we do so in the near future.
    Later...

    Quote Originally Posted by NHLinden
    we're not working with him anymore nor we will in the future
    Quote Originally Posted by NHLinden
    we will not work with him again
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    Quote Originally Posted by NHLinden
    Banned is a strong word.
    Later...

    Quote Originally Posted by NHLinden
    I don't think you can get much more "banned" than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jokerman99
    Will you be paying commission on players sent to date from the thousands of hacked websites?
    Quote Originally Posted by NHLinden
    I cannot reveal payments information on the forum.
    No affiliate, no matter what he does, would like his payment or stats details revealed here.
    Later...

    Quote Originally Posted by NHLinden
    we stopped his payments
    ------------------------

    There are only two options for a statement chronology like that: Unprofessionalism or

    Quote Originally Posted by xecutable
    You and your company take everyone for an idiot here
    I am sure, some readers believe, that the word "near" could be a Freudian Slip.

    This presumption is the legacy of what is said. It's not the fault of the reader. The official program statement writer is responsible for it and no one else.

    Leopold

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    Quote Originally Posted by NHLinden View Post
    Please refer to my previous posts to see what actions we've taken.

    We asked to be removed from his site (and we were), we stopped his payments, we stopped working/communicating with him, and we will not work with him again.
    Details of what other actions we took I cannot share here, sorry.

    I don't think you can get much more "banned" than that.
    Please enlighten me as it sure seems to me that they have terminated their agreement. What am I not seeing between the lines?

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