Page 1 of 6 12345 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 103
  1. #1
    Ocelot2 is offline Private Member
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    70
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 30 Times in 13 Posts

    Default Very Smart Move from Quasar

    The most perverse decision I've seen in this business from an complete Ass**** Company :

    We regret to inform you that following recent management decisions and also with reference to the Affiliate Program Terms & Conditions, Quasar Limited is ceasing it's Affiliate Programs in a number of territories.


    Due to the uncertain nature of the regulatory framework in certain territories in relation to online gambling, we no longer feel that operating the Affiliate Programme for a number of markets is a viable one.


    - You will no longer be able to refer any players or earn commissions on payments pertaining to players referred to from the updated restricted territories as from 1st September 2018.


    - Your final payments pertaining to territories which are now restricted, will still be payable until then. After September 1st, you will no longer be able to receive commissions from activity generated in restricted territories.


    Please find the the list of restricted territories for the Affiliate Program, under Appendix I - Restricted Territories within your respective login site.


    Your account is deemed to be significantly impacted by these changes. We therefore wish to refer to, but not limit ourselves to the following clauses which are listed below for your attention.


    1. Agreement


    1.2 Quasargaming.com reserves the right to update or modify this Agreement and any appendices attached thereto as it may deem appropriate. The version posted on the Quasaraffiliates.com website shall be the effective version, and that which Affiliates should use as reference. It is your responsibility to inform yourself regarding the Agreement, as well as to familiarize yourself with the modifications that may affect you. For this purpose, Affiliates are advised to read the Agreement from time to time.


    In the event that changes of a substantial nature are made to the Agreement, Quasargaming.com may, but is not obliged to, inform the Affiliate of these changes.


    If any modification to this Agreement is unacceptable to the Affiliate, the Affiliate's only recourse against Quasargaming.com is to terminate its participation in the Affiliate Program.


    The Affiliate's continued (i) participation in the Affiliate Program, (ii) use of the Quasargaming.com Affiliate website and/or Marketing Tools, or (iii) acceptance of any Affiliate commissions from Quasargaming.comconfirms the Affiliate's irrevocable acceptance of this Agreement (and any modifications thereto).


    11. Term & Termination


    11.1 The agreement can be terminated by either party at any time with immediate effect without giving any prior notice and without giving a reason. In any case Quasargaming.com terminates the Agreement, if the Affiliate violated essential obligations of this Agreement or the execution of this Agreement is not permitted by law or has become inadmissible. Quasargaming.com's e-mail for notification purposes is: affiliates@Quasargaming.com and Affiliate's e-mail address for notification purposes is as shown in the Affiliate's account at the time of notification. For the avoidance of doubt, this Agreement and the Affiliate Account shall terminate immediately upon the decease of the relevant Affiliate and no further payments shall be due by Quasargaming.com in respect of such Affiliate Account.


    Whilst regretting the latest developments, we wish to underline that Quasar Limited has always been and remains committed to operating, whilst prudently in observance of all applicable laws.

    And the Restricted Territories are:

    Albania
    Alexandria
    American Samoa
    Andorra
    Aland Islands
    Argentina
    Armenia
    Australia
    Austria
    Bahrain
    Bangladesh
    Belarus
    Belgium
    Benin
    Bermuda
    Botswana
    Brazil
    Brunei Darussalam
    Bulgaria
    Canada
    Chile
    Colombia
    Costa Rica
    Croatia
    Cyprus
    Czech Republic
    Denmark
    Dominican Republic
    Egypt
    Estonia
    Faroe Islands
    France
    French Guiana
    Georgia
    Germany
    Ghana
    Gibraltar
    Greece
    Guadeloupe
    Guatemala
    Hungary
    Iceland
    Italy
    Jamaica
    Japan
    Jordan
    Kazakhstan
    Latvia
    Lebanon
    Libya
    Liechtensien
    Lithuania
    Macau
    Macedonia
    Malawi
    Malaysia
    Martinique
    Mauritius
    Mexico
    Moldova
    Mongolia
    Montenegro
    Mozambique
    Netherlands
    Norway
    Oman
    Paraguay
    Peru
    Poland
    Portugal
    Qatar
    Reunion
    Romania
    Russian Federation
    Saint Lucia
    San Marino
    Saudi Arabia
    Serbia
    Singapore
    Slovenia
    Somalia
    South Africa
    Spain
    Suriname
    Switzerland
    Tanzania
    Thailand
    Turkey
    Ukraine
    United Arab Emirates
    United Kingdom
    United States of America
    Uruguay
    Uzbekistan
    Vatican City State
    Venezuela
    Vietnam


    In short, all Countries where is some Money, they Bastards....

  2. The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to Ocelot2 For This Useful Post:

    Insider (22 August 2018), ocreditor (2 September 2018), Roulette Zeitung (22 August 2018), Tonny (23 August 2018), vardan (23 August 2018), xecutable (22 August 2018), Zuga (25 August 2018)

  3. #2
    PromoteCasino is offline Private Member
    Join Date
    June 2013
    Location
    London
    Posts
    786
    Thanks
    597
    Thanked 352 Times in 239 Posts

    Default

    THEFT - The least they can do is keep paying out on referred customers prior to the very short notice date. I could understand if they were pulling out of the said countries altogether but this is clearly not the case as it only applies to the affiliate program.

    Have I mentioned before I f*cking hate T&C's (worthless to affiliates)
    Betting Offers in the UK - Latest offers and bonuses from reputable UK bookmakers.

  4. The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to PromoteCasino For This Useful Post:

    -Shay- (22 August 2018), Insider (22 August 2018), ocreditor (2 September 2018), Roulette Zeitung (22 August 2018), Triple7 (22 August 2018), vardan (23 August 2018)

  5. #3
    Ocelot2 is offline Private Member
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    70
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 30 Times in 13 Posts

    Default

    Exactly! If they left these countries completely, i could understand it. But now there is only one goal, to put the money completely into the own pocket. Absolutely dubious and unethical company

  6. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Ocelot2 For This Useful Post:

    allaboutthebets (23 August 2018), Insider (23 August 2018), PromoteCasino (22 August 2018), Roulette Zeitung (22 August 2018), Triple7 (22 August 2018)

  7. #4
    Triple7 is offline Public Member
    Join Date
    January 2015
    Location
    Transylvania
    Posts
    2,365
    Thanks
    1,626
    Thanked 2,061 Times in 1,108 Posts

    Default

    Scammers.

    Who's behind this clip joint?

  8. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Triple7 For This Useful Post:

    ocreditor (2 September 2018), Roulette Zeitung (22 August 2018)

  9. #5
    luckyga's Avatar
    luckyga is offline Public Member
    Join Date
    March 2012
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    103
    Thanks
    38
    Thanked 78 Times in 50 Posts

    Default

    Yes, agreed it is theft and endemic within the industry. I've also had similar done to me where essentially they are saying thanks for the free referrals good luck with us paying you.

    However, as most of these companies are so disorganised I'm hoping some come back to me wanting to be on a site in the future, which gives you the upper hand - do it my way or no chance and I want paying upfront due to past unethical behaviour.

  10. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to luckyga For This Useful Post:

    Insider (23 August 2018), Roulette Zeitung (22 August 2018)

  11. #6
    allfreechips's Avatar
    allfreechips is offline Private Member
    Join Date
    August 2010
    Location
    Ohio - The taxing state
    Posts
    817
    Thanks
    88
    Thanked 494 Times in 284 Posts

    Default

    I just moved them up the ladder on the rogue list, some free PR for them.
    Allfreechips online casino guide offers online casino reviews from our members. Also our exclusive No Deposit casino bonuses are always up to date. See the latest slot machine reviews at Hotslot and exclusive no deposit casino bonuses as well with a good dose of daily online gambling news

  12. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to allfreechips For This Useful Post:

    Insider (23 August 2018), Roulette Zeitung (22 August 2018)

  13. #7
    Azureus's Avatar
    Azureus is offline Public Member
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Posts
    60
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 35 Times in 21 Posts

    Default

    It is nice that they did not forget to put "Vatican City State" on the list.

    I wonder what countries aren't on the list. India and China? Do they expect to convert there?

    I assume their strongest market is Germany and maybe Scandinavia.
    Now they stole revshare commission from everyone. And in the end, they'll go down, same as Mybet just did last week.

  14. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Azureus For This Useful Post:

    allaboutthebets (23 August 2018), Insider (23 August 2018), Roulette Zeitung (22 August 2018)

  15. #8
    Ocelot2 is offline Private Member
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    70
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 30 Times in 13 Posts

    Default

    And Ovoaffiliates.com (same Company Quasar Limited) makes the same! The scammers steal the affiliates' revenues, let the players continue playing and at the end of the day the scammers have their pockets significantly fuller

  16. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Ocelot2 For This Useful Post:

    Insider (23 August 2018), Roulette Zeitung (22 August 2018)

  17. #9
    Insider is offline Public Member
    Join Date
    July 2010
    Posts
    221
    Thanks
    88
    Thanked 187 Times in 84 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Azureus View Post
    I assume their strongest market is Germany and maybe Scandinavia.
    Norway is already and Sweden will be the next one, nearly 100 countries are listed and there will be not much countries left.

  18. The Following User Says Thank You to Insider For This Useful Post:

    Roulette Zeitung (22 August 2018)

  19. #10
    Progger's Avatar
    Progger is offline Public Member
    Join Date
    November 2014
    Posts
    1,351
    Blog Entries
    5
    Thanks
    255
    Thanked 887 Times in 555 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Azureus View Post

    I assume their strongest market is Germany and maybe Scandinavia.
    Yes Germany,but not really Scandinavia....but...
    The Cash Cow "Greentube alias Novoline" leave this market end of the last year...best software for this market.

    I actually thought that this provider go down,and remove all links months ago...
    But now,this brand found a way to compensate the loss...

    I think this brand will leave some markets like spintastic and Viks.

  20. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Progger For This Useful Post:

    Insider (23 August 2018), Roulette Zeitung (22 August 2018), Triple7 (22 August 2018), vtyunby65 (23 August 2018)

  21. #11
    wonderpunter's Avatar
    wonderpunter is offline Private Member
    Join Date
    August 2013
    Posts
    1,893
    Blog Entries
    5
    Thanks
    370
    Thanked 1,335 Times in 806 Posts

    Default

    There are many countries there which they had no need to withdraw from.. blatant smash and grab

  22. #12
    Triple7 is offline Public Member
    Join Date
    January 2015
    Location
    Transylvania
    Posts
    2,365
    Thanks
    1,626
    Thanked 2,061 Times in 1,108 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Azureus View Post
    It is nice that they did not forget to put "Vatican City State" on the list.

    I wonder what countries aren't on the list. India and China? Do they expect to convert there?

    I assume their strongest market is Germany and maybe Scandinavia.
    Now they stole revshare commission from everyone. And in the end, they'll go down, same as Mybet just did last week.
    Wonderful markets like Syria, Iraq, North Korea or Haiti. Perhaps some penguins at the South Pole can get a commission.

    The action is awful and the way they present it is even more.

    Still curious who's behind this clipjoint. Same tossers as OVO, but what else...

  23. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Triple7 For This Useful Post:

    Insider (23 August 2018), Roulette Zeitung (22 August 2018), vardan (23 August 2018)

  24. #13
    ChRR is offline Public Member
    Join Date
    February 2018
    Posts
    13
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts

    Default

    wow, fuxk me ...

  25. #14
    vtyunby65's Avatar
    vtyunby65 is offline Private Member
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    2,140
    Thanks
    7,289
    Thanked 1,581 Times in 1,043 Posts

    Default

    That's unheard of. If you make commissions on referred players from wherever they are in the world, then you should get paid on those players. It's as simple as that.
    Last edited by vtyunby65; 22 August 2018 at 6:37 pm.

  26. The Following User Says Thank You to vtyunby65 For This Useful Post:

    Roulette Zeitung (22 August 2018)

  27. #15
    Roulette Zeitung's Avatar
    Roulette Zeitung is offline Public Member
    Join Date
    July 2012
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    4,257
    Blog Entries
    5
    Thanks
    5,724
    Thanked 6,490 Times in 2,839 Posts

    Default

    If he GPWA Code of Conduct would not be such a staged lip-service, the sponsorship of this bunch of pickpockets must be terminated or at least hit with an infraction slap due to the new installed "ethic" rule in that code, because this is a clear case of "Sponsor Companies will not use unethical methods of promotion".

    The rule was installed because of the hacking issues after massive public pressure and the Buffalo disaster, but if a program animates webmaster to promote in country X, and after enough players are acquired, the revenue share from X is at once void and invalid, then the program's self-promotion itself is an "unethical" method of promotion.

    I never liked them, caught them red-handed in the hacker case, also while practicing black hat seo at the expense of the webmasters, and they never had a positive aura in my opinion.

    A new wave of collapsing cloud castles.

    And obviously the representatives are too stupid to think about their future.

    Do you really want to make business again with anyone, working for Quasar, in the future?
    As if nothing happened?
    Can you ever again believe one word from them?
    Trust them?
    One word?!

    No, in my opinion, with the exception, that they - like Carmel did - refuse being a part of a crooked company.

    I have really no mercy for such people anymore.

    Leopold

  28. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Roulette Zeitung For This Useful Post:

    CarmelS (23 August 2018), Insider (23 August 2018), ocreditor (2 September 2018), vardan (23 August 2018)

  29. #16
    Insider is offline Public Member
    Join Date
    July 2010
    Posts
    221
    Thanks
    88
    Thanked 187 Times in 84 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Roulette Zeitung View Post

    Do you really want to make business again with anyone, working for Quasar, in the future?
    As if nothing happened?
    Can you ever again believe one word from them?
    Trust them?
    One word?!

    No, in my opinion, with the exception, that they - like Carmel did - refuse being a part of a crooked company.

    I have really no mercy for such people anymore.

    Leopold

    Normally you can't trust anymore but what should the small employees do where worked for those companies ? They must play the game

    Contractually they are obliged and they will also animated in certain cases to say the untruth or to deliberately lie to it's partners that's not new in this business.

    It's difficult say to trust those persons again if they have worked for companies like this one before.

    In the end, they are just as affected we are and leave the company voluntarily or stay until the bitter end.

    Many of them must search then for a new job and hopefully will find in better companies with more ethical behavior and responsibility.

  30. The Following User Says Thank You to Insider For This Useful Post:

    Roulette Zeitung (23 August 2018)

  31. #17
    Tonny is offline Public Member
    Join Date
    March 2011
    Location
    Earth
    Posts
    92
    Thanks
    29
    Thanked 35 Times in 25 Posts

  32. #18
    CarmelS is online now Non-sponsor Affiliate Program
    Join Date
    April 2009
    Location
    Malta
    Posts
    140
    Thanks
    44
    Thanked 54 Times in 31 Posts

    Default

    Unfortunately, employees have 2 choices to choose from in cases like this - 1 push the employer's agenda and hope the backlash will not be too bad or 2 refuse to be part of this sort of thing and go their own way. I can confirm myself, as Lionel knows too, that it's not an easy choice to make for an Affiliate Manager. We realise when management decisions are made with the only intention to screw affiliates, and most of the time have no say in these decisions, but its not that easy either to just walk away from a relatively good paying job, on a matter of principle, without having another alternative especially if one has a family and many other commitments.

  33. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to CarmelS For This Useful Post:

    Insider (23 August 2018), Roulette Zeitung (23 August 2018)

  34. #19
    xecutable's Avatar
    xecutable is offline Private Member
    Join Date
    March 2011
    Location
    Zurich, Switzerland
    Posts
    1,674
    Thanks
    514
    Thanked 990 Times in 571 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by CarmelS View Post
    Unfortunately, employees have 2 choices to choose from in cases like this - 1 push the employer's agenda and hope the backlash will not be too bad or 2 refuse to be part of this sort of thing and go their own way. I can confirm myself, as Lionel knows too, that it's not an easy choice to make for an Affiliate Manager. We realise when management decisions are made with the only intention to screw affiliates, and most of the time have no say in these decisions, but its not that easy either to just walk away from a relatively good paying job, on a matter of principle, without having another alternative especially if one has a family and many other commitments.
    To be fair a decent human being, a professional and a person with high morals has only 1 option and you know what it is. Every other bs excuse is just that an excuse.

    Don't forget that a program that has no problems screwing over affiliates, will have no problem to screw over their own employees. And if you chose to stay, your reputation is now tarnished and it's very unlikely for anyone to take you seriously no matter where you go afterwards.

    Affiliates have families and a life too you know. And we have to explain why now a bunch of important life events have to be postponed.
    Gambipedia.com - casino, poker, sports betting guides, reviews & bonuses.

  35. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to xecutable For This Useful Post:

    Roulette Zeitung (23 August 2018), TheGamblersClub (27 August 2018), Triple7 (23 August 2018), vardan (23 August 2018)

  36. #20
    Triple7 is offline Public Member
    Join Date
    January 2015
    Location
    Transylvania
    Posts
    2,365
    Thanks
    1,626
    Thanked 2,061 Times in 1,108 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by xecutable View Post
    To be fair a decent human being, a professional and a person with high morals has only 1 option and you know what it is. Every other bs excuse is just that an excuse.

    Don't forget that a program that has no problems screwing over affiliates, will have no problem to screw over their own employees. And if you chose to stay, your reputation is now tarnished and it's very unlikely for anyone to take you seriously no matter where you go afterwards.

    Affiliates have families and a life too you know. And we have to explain why now a bunch of important life events have to be postponed.
    I agree with this.

    The excuses that affiliate managers working for a clip-joint program are having a family makes no sense. Thieves stealing wallets of old people are having families too. Or people breaking into other people's houses and steal valuable items. They're having a family too. Programs stealing and their employees are exactly at the same level as these examples.

    Also, it's a bit a circle. Some affiliate managers switch from (relatively) honest programs to other (relatively) honest programs. Others are jumping from one dodgy program to the other program. Sometimes the name of the affiliate manager is already a red flag for a new program.

    The problem is that they get away with it. Time after time. Super affiliates are having their own contract, the rest of the landscape is small and unorganized. And employees of rogue programs are getting new jobs within the industry. Etc.

    But in the end, nothing more will happen than some threads at forums. Just like when Sky Bet pulled out, etc.
    Last edited by Triple7; 23 August 2018 at 8:31 am.

  37. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Triple7 For This Useful Post:

    Insider (24 August 2018), Roulette Zeitung (23 August 2018)

Page 1 of 6 12345 ... LastLast

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •