What do you think of the CAP banning frenzy?

[pgaming]

So what do I think of the CAP's banning frenzy? For the banning whatever who cares. It what comes after your banned, avatar mutilation! Throw one up for me professor for I am your favorite village idiot.


Two negatives make a positive.

greek39

[mojo]

I have been wearing this prison suit for a year and a half now for the whole world to see on CAP. Not a dam thing I can do about it. If you look up mojo you will see.

Dear Cap,

Could you please remove my prison suit? I am very sorry if I offended you. It will never happen again. I don't mind being banned but a year and a half of humiliation...not sure what to say.

Thank you,

Mojo

Well, I apologized way back on page 9 or so and still my avatar is meant to shame. That just says it all for me. Your concience shouldnt bother you greek.

[vegasfever]

i don;'t have any problems with CAP

[CasinoDN.com]

I've never been banned by a forum using VB before. Just out of curiosity, how do you even know if you've been banned? Do you get an email, or an explicit message saying you've been banned, or anything at all when you try to log in? The reason I'm asking is because I've tried to log in tonight but all I get is a blank page that doesn't even have any source code in it. Does that mean I've been banned, or is that just a bug? Others appear to be posting just fine, so it seems doubtful it could be a bug.

Also, when you get banned at CAP, is that supposed to come with a ban at pokeraffiliateprograms.com, too? Correct me if I'm wrong, but it was my impression both are owned by the same parties. I apparently haven't been banned there now. The most recent activity for my accounts over there and at CAP has been that I got a PM inquiry from someone about the price for the PokerAffiliateWeb (dot) com domain in response to this thread about it at p.a.p.: http://www.pokeraffiliateprograms.co...ng-offers.html. Some time prior to the PM, just some brief positive posting over at CAP.

So, does anyone know the scoop on what I should make of this blank code-less page while others keep posting: bug, or ban?

[AmCan]

Hard to believe that i just noticed that all this was happening.

I've always tried to maintain good relationships with everyone in the industry and maintain peace on the boards, so this is troubling.

I've said since my early days in the GPWA (joined in 2001) that an industry association can't be privately owned. A privately owned webmaster forum/community, such as CAP and GPWA are businesses and they can be run by their owners as they see fit. If they don't value the comments or ideas of their members, it's their choice of how to deal with it. We should participate with that knowledge in mind.

I think that this was an unfortunate incident that was precipitated by some issues of being competing businesses. I've always loved that Michael was very open to letting people stay involved even if they weren't supportive of him or his operations. I'm glad that Lou/Warren and the CAP folks have given Michael access back. I think it's ok to require that the owner of a competing business must have his posts preapproved by the admin, before going live on CAP, though i personally wouldn't bother.

As a member of both groups, i hope that we try to stay open, even to competitors, especially on the forums.

[CasinoDN.com]

Appreciate your thoughts there, AmCan.

FYI I'm able to log in at CAP again this evening, so perhaps I'll never know. As for me, as neutral as Switzerland, but as supportive of the industry, sound principles, practices and law as an advocate. Everyone can potentially win when everyone stands together. At last we're seeing some of that amidst the latest outrage that recently appeared, whose implications go so far beyond an industry and commerce itself, and the people working there should be appreciated for putting up the guts and gumption needed now to finally stand up and say "no you can't" and "yes we can" to reckless lunacy and foolishness like that.

As for "competition," there is no zero-sum game, only many opportunities for all and for abundant complementarity. This pie is so huge despite the pockets of opposition here and there that there is way more than enough room for all - big, medium, and small - with much to spare and growing. The pie can only be fixed and small if any can't accept or live with others getting a piece and winning too. That can send the whole pie tumbling into the ocean, but even in the ocean the fish have to accept there can and will be other fish, too, big, medium, and small, with plenty of room and food for all. And don't forget about the biggest national economy in the world - Americans don't exactly take too kindly to unjustified Prohibition, even if it takes time to wake up and deal with it, and I for one doubt Prohibition can stand that much longer. Wait'll you see what happens to the pie and the ocean then.

[Dominique]

While I am not always aware of bannings and have no access to the backend, I usually see some offensive posting and put two and two together.

I hardly think you were banned, must have been some snafu.

[CasinoDN.com]

Thanks for your post, Dominique. Well, perhaps we'll never know. Your math is rock solid, there was only reason to consider if a 'two' or two you might not see had tipped the scale past four. In any event, after login I was down with moving on to higher ground we all explore, but perhaps that all belongs in a different thread just as well.

AmCan - caught this in your profile. Seemed pretty noticeable in light of my last post:

Interests: eating small fish

LOL. Say it ain't so!

[pdjoe]

My God,

Here is just another fine example of how CAP treats programs and other affiltes in the biz. This one just struck me as the worst ever and thank god my mother isn't reading it. When did the BIG "C" word become acceptable at any forum? What a disgrace to people and the industry. I don't blame splinter for his feelings, been there, but for CAP to let that go unedited is terrible!

For Gods sake people, wake up

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I'm getting tired of Saturn Bingo and their PR technique, they are constantly spamming my forum and my blog with posts about how their bingo hall is superb and such. The posts are obviously not affiliate spam, just the pure link to their website, with fake CM users and fake players posting them.
I was thinking about to promote them in the past, but after seeing this I won't promote such program that uses these kind of marketing methods.
Saturn Bingo: go and get a PR company that is not spamming websites and thinks that it is the best way to rank high in the SERPS!  
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those cunts locked me out of my account and never replied to any of my inquiries. so yea, saturn bingo is some kind of garage operation which is a skin to a mid-sized network. stay away... 
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They spammed me too - using Luna's name, who is a (real?) CM at Saturn.
They have been around forever, and I have some players who started there years ago and love "Luna". 
If they don't knock it off I will blacklist them anyway.
Sunshine Bingo should also be blacklisted because of non responsiveness and non payment for over a year. 
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Agree!
They have been spamming a few places i have been to, and its soooo obvious!
and i agree with sunshine bingo to....i have had no response from them in months. 
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Same here, CMLuna joined our forum and her first post was explaining how she 'found' this fabulous bingo site, as if she's just another player that is sharing this wonderful bingo site she came across.
I don't like posts like that. If she posted acknowledging that she's from Saturn at least, and said 'we' as if she's part of Saturn, I wouldn't mind. 
I messaged her, she didn't reply, so her post is getting deleted. 
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those cunts locked me out of my account 
lol don't hold back now  say what you think.
they do sound like a bunch of cnuts tho. 
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Oh great!  What is wrong with some folks.
Saturn Bingo has been a sponsor at my forum for years now and I'm disappointed to see this happening! I'm going to email them to ask about it. I'll have to pull their promo if they continue to do this stuff.
I'll see if I can get a statement as to what is going on with them. 
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[Simmo!]

Not sure that's particularly fair. You could probably find abuse on most forums and bear in mind that moderating is done at the time of the post....a poster can often go back and edit posts so you can't always catch stuff like that.

Don't you think this thread has somewhat run it's course? It's got it's point over IMO and it's not helping anyone letting it run on. Time to close it?

[GamTrak]

My God,

Here is just another fine example of how CAP treats programs and other affiltes in the biz. This one just struck me as the worst ever and thank god my mother isn't reading it. When did the BIG "C" word become acceptable at any forum? What a disgrace to people and the industry. I don't blame splinter for his feelings, been there, but for CAP to let that go unedited is terrible!

For Gods sake people, wake up

Once again, I'm confused! What treatment are you speaking of pdjoe?

No one at CAP called anyone a C&%$ in that thread other than the poster called the bingo site that word or are you talking about the fact that the word is not censored?

[GamTrak]

Don't you think this thread has somewhat run it's course? It's got it's point over IMO and it's not helping anyone letting it run on. Time to close it?

IMO it's definatly ran its course and has done absolutely nothing to help the situation and will only make things worse.

Happy Holdays and Merry Christmast to all!

[pdjoe]

Once again, I'm confused! What treatment are you speaking of pdjoe?

No one at CAP called anyone a C&%$ in that thread other than the poster called the bingo site that word or are you talking about the fact that the word is not censored?

I'll be as clear as I can be here.

the "big C Word" is inpropriat at any place in my opinion"

Do you Disagree with that?

Just my opinion that post should have been addressed as such...nobody seemed to even mind that it was bad.

Said it before but I'll say it again....Thank God it's not my mother reading that thread.


No, nobody else used the "C" word......they refrainded and sid the same in other words.

Click the link to see the details.


To Simmo....

I agree with you but for any forum to condone this language is wrong. It's the people and the programs that make it possible for all of us. I see no reason to call any of them c***nts.

[kwblue]

While the thread 'may have' run it's course, I do not believe the thread should be closed or 'archived'. That is just not the GPWA (or AGD) way of doing things. I leave that to other forums.

Affiliates should have the ability to have their thoughts heard in regards to any topic. After all, free speech allows it

[GamTrak]

I'll be as clear as I can be here.

the "big C Word" is inpropriat at any place in my opinion" (that does not mean it can't be posted. I would never say it. I'd never say the N word either, but I've seen it posted.)

Do you Disagree with that? - (It's NOT my forum so if I don't like how it's ran then I would not visit. I don't have that word filtered out at my forum either)

Just my opinion that post should have been addressed as such...nobody seemed to even mind that it was bad. - (A simple PM to the admin could have addressed that issue as I'mm sure that others read the thread, but did nothing.)

Said it before but I'll say it again....Thank God it's not my mother reading that thread.


No, nobody else used the "C" word......they refrainded and sid the same in other words. - (This is a reflection on the poster. Why not ask them why they did it?)

Click the link to see the details.


To Simmo....

I agree with you but for any forum to condone this language is wrong. It's the people and the programs that make it possible for all of us. I see no reason to call any of them c***nts.

What responsiblity does the ADULT that posted it have in the matter?

[GamTrak]

While the thread 'may have' run it's course, I do not believe the thread should be closed or 'archived'. That is just not the GPWA (or AGD) way of doing things. I leave that to other forums.

Affiliates should have the ability to have their thoughts heard in regards to any topic. After all, free speech allows it

I thought that you guys wanted to be allowed in conferences, work together for the good of the industry and repair the damaged relationship. If you think that this is the way to do it then you may want to reconsider.

I doubt that any business owner would be willing to make ammends if they are addressed as such, but what do I know?

[kwblue]

I thought that you guys wanted to be allowed in conferences, work together for the good of the industry and repair the damaged relationship. If you think that this is the way to do it then you may want to reconsider.

I doubt that any business owner would be willing to make ammends if they are addressed as such, but what do I know?

I don't understand this? I just stated that a thread should not be closed or archived. That's my opinion and I do not see how that would affect my 'conference going'. I can go to whatever conference I want and nobody can really stop me - can they?

[pgaming]

thread should not be closed or archived.

My opinion as well plus more....

greek39

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HMM, GamTrak, there are a couple of words that should never be used on any of the forums, in any context, because the word itself is offensive in any context to many women. JMO.
This is one of them that shouldn't be used, EVER.

I realize that not everyone finds it offensive, and in this case, I don't believe it was intended to be a gender offensive adjective, but a descriptive adjective about the bingo site.

Even still, a different adjective should have been used. JMO on that.

[GamTrak]

HMM, GamTrak, there are a couple of words that should never be used on any of the forums, in any context, because the word itself is offensive in any context to many women. JMO.
This is one of them that shouldn't be used, EVER.

I realize that not everyone finds it offensive, and in this case, I don't believe it was intended to be a gender offensive adjective, but a descriptive adjective about the bingo site.

Even still, a different adjective should have been used. JMO on that.

Where did I say that either of the words should be used? What did you do about it being there?

Did any of you guys alert the admin. that the word was there?