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  • I already have more than one smart speaker.

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  • I currently have one smart speaker and believe I will buy more.

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  • I currently have one smart speaker and am not sure I will buy more.

    2 7.41%
  • I don't have a smart speaker now, but think I will buy my first one in the next six months.

    3 11.11%
  • I don't have a smart speaker now, but think I will buy my first one in the next year.

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  • I don't have a smart speaker now, but think I will buy one eventually.

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  • I don't have a smart speaker now, and I don't think I will ever buy one.

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    Question When do you expect to have a smart speaker?

    The smart speaker market is growing at an explosive pace. Reports I have read indicate that there are currently over 40 million such devices in use worldwide with shipments forecast to more than double in 2018. North America is reported to account for the lion's share of the market, but there are reports of rapidly growing adoption in the UK, Germany, and France as well as Asian countries such as China, South Korea and Japan.

    Today, in the U.S., it is reported that nearly one in five adults, or almost 50 million, have access to a smart speaker - an impressive adoption rate for a two year period. Note that smart speakers are typically shared, so that adoption rate considers that all the adults in a household typically have access to the devices when there is one or more in a home. It is reported the average home with smart speakers has 1.8 devices with two-thirds having one device, one-fifth having two devices, and smaller numbers with more. The most popular locations are living rooms (45.9%), kitchens (41.4%), bedrooms (36.8%) and home offices (10.9%). You can see more statistics about usage in the United States in the following techcrunch article: 47.3 million U.S. adults have access to a smart speaker.

    The market leader is currently Amazon's Echo Dot, reported to have close to 75% if the market, with most of the rest of the market currently belonging to Google Home. If you currently have, or are thinking of getting one of these devices, I recommend reading up on their use from a security perspective. A paper I read on this topic is published by Symantec here: A guide to the security of voice-activated smart speakers.

    Because many of us are techies at heart, and because this is such a rapidly growing techie-type product, I figured it would be a good topic for today's weekly poll. Besides sharing whether you already have one, or plan to get a smart speaker, be sure to share your thoughts about them in a post.

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    I voted in the poll and I'm hoping to buy one within the year.

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    No. Chance. In. Hell.

    The amount of stories I've heard in regards to privacy breach is phenominal.

    How does it know when you're talking to it? Because it is ALWAYS listening. That is enough to make me never want one.
    I read this story where a couple was having a conversation and the speaker sent the recorded conversation to one of their contacts. Luckily the conversation wasn't about that person, but was about someone. They alerted them pretty quickly. Like WTF.

    No thanks. I'm happy to do everything like turning off the light in my room manually. If I become so lazy or time poor that turning off the light with my hand takes too much time, I will just leave this earth because I'm done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renee View Post
    No thanks.
    Ditto. And that's not the only gadget one has to be concerned about.

    https://www.intego.com/mac-security-...spying-on-you/

    For now, we all need to think carefully whether we want a microphone listening to everything we do in our homes.
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    My first thought when considering them is the same situation Renee stated above.

    How comfortable would you feel discussing legal matters with your solicitor if you knew he had one in his office or conference room?

    I have considered getting one to have a play with it, but would most likely keep it disconnected except when I knew I would be testing the aspects of it for now.

    Oddly enough, I just had a discussion with a client of mine that is waiting for a new house to be built so he can move in, and the entire house is a smart house in a sub division full of smart houses already wired up with lights, heating/cooling, kitchen appliances, etc etc etc capable of being programmed and controlled by a smart speaker.

    He is a long time client that is very tech savvy and security oriented so I am looking forward to seeing what he discovers after he makes the move.


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    Side note added later: The client I speak of is not only tech savvy, but also consulted on various projects for factories helping some of them program and automate some of their processes in manufacturing so I am really looking forward to discussions about the good and bad parts of home automation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renee View Post
    I read this story where a couple was having a conversation and the speaker sent the recorded conversation to one of their contacts. Luckily the conversation wasn't about that person, but was about someone. They alerted them pretty quickly. Like WTF.
    Having read that, I'm voting no way in hell either
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    Yes...i have the dot, just for fun. Most of the time Unplugged / without electricity.

    Alexa is always listening ,this is right but this is not really a problem because the data dont leave the dot without a keyword "alexa"
    Play stupid games and win stupid prices...200 apps on the device + connected phone and the privacy breach can happens....

    We still have an influence on this..

    But a dirty phone app/tool that steal your naked selfies from last night is much more dangerous than a small russian spion in the living room...

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    Privacy is a concern. I'll pass.
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    Not anytime soon - voice activation at home is novelty at best.

    Voice activation in car for phone functions makes sense - and I enjoy using it to make calls / read messages - but at home I can type.
    Perhaps in time I will see a killer app.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Progger View Post
    Yes...i have the dot, just for fun. Most of the time Unplugged / without electricity.

    Alexa is always listening ,this is right but this is not really a problem because the data dont leave the dot without a keyword "alexa"
    Play stupid games and win stupid prices...200 apps on the device + connected phone and the privacy breach can happens....

    We still have an influence on this..

    But a dirty phone app/tool that steal your naked selfies from last night is much more dangerous than a small russian spion in the living room...

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    It didn't only send it after it was told to in the article I read.

    Article:
    hxxps://www.smh.com.au/technology/amazon-echo-reportedly-recorded-conversation-sent-to-random-contact-20180525-p4zhev.html

    Also, there was a case where they turned over the data on the echo server to authorities for a murder case. If the device didn't record everythign, what could they possibly find there?
    hxxps://www.gizmodo.com.au/2017/03/amazon-agrees-to-hand-over-data-in-echo-murder-case/

    If I had them, I'd rather my naked selfies being sent around tbh.
    Noone would want to see those anyway. My conversations are far more interesting.
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    I sniff the traffic from the Dot, no traffic without the keyword....only some "alive" and "syncro" packages.

    I dont wanna defend amazon...but we should go with the future.

    don't be paranoid

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    Oh I'm paranoid. I have nothing to hide, but if people are going to know things about me or them, I want to be the one saying it to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renee View Post
    Oh I'm paranoid. I have nothing to hide, but if people are going to know things about me or them, I want to be the one saying it to them.
    It was a joke, dont hate me now

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    Sooo, nobody wants smart speakers.

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    I would be 600 pounds if i had a device turning my lights on and off , it is the one bit of exercise I do get lol

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    I agree with Renee, it's a bit of a paranoia issue with me as well as the fact that I probably don't even need one. It wouldn't make my life easier, but to each his own!

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    Well, in the poll I voted "I don't have a smart speaker now, but think I will buy my first one in the next six months." My vote proved accurate: I just ordered an Amazon Echo yesterday, and should have it by the end of the week. With Prime day being yesterday, and with a 30% discount offered for the day, I decided that was the perfect excuse to buy one. In terms of privacy, knowing how they work, I'm a lot more concerned about my mobile phone than I am about this particular device. I generally keep geolocation on my phone on, and consider it is downright creepy exactly what Google and Facebook know about my travels.

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    I have one in the kitchen but it doesn't really get used for much apart from listening to the radio. Privacy would be a concern but nothing exciting ever happens in there anyways apart from kids running about making a noise!

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    As expected the results here are quit different from the overall public.
    I spoke about it with some family members about this stuff and they were 100% sure i'm kidding. So I forced them to send few messages one to another about certain product and surprisingly a bit later they all started getting those adds on various sites.
    Bottom line: Most people don't know or don't care about these stuff.

    The thing is - that we are fully in the same boat.
    Renne, although you and I won't buy a smart speaker doesn't mean a thing. Currently, the amount of things someone can know about us makes 1930s Russia look like Utopian democracy. I mean there isn't a thing not known about us: what i do for a leaving, how much i make, where i drink my coffee, my friends, who is my doctor or do i go to psychologist, my health, do i cheat on my wife/husband, political opinions, everything.

    It's definitely disturbing but unless you through away your smartphone, disconnect from internet (personal one at least) - there is no way around it.

    Bottom line: you can safely buy a smart speaker. It won't change a thing
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    Search for "Mistress Alexa".

    This is the only thing, a smart speaker can provide at least a spark of entertainment.

    Otherwise it's complete useless, because it's slowing down our natural instincts and ensures only a more low IQ, many of us already have.

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