You have to buy links to get high up in google for popular keywords, sad fact.

[TheGooner]

Vary your anchor text considerably. Do not overuse any keyword over 20% in the anchor text of your back link.

And this is what makes me laugh.

Google is supposed to be all about natural links and natural growth - and yet here are SEO experts like Gary (who knows his stuff) telling us about perceived limits that Google might have for applying penalties.

If these links really are natural - then how the how does the target site have any influence over what the originating site puts as their anchor text?

What I'm saying is how can Google expect a genuine webmaster to have any influence over that - and why on earth would there be a penalty for excess?

I'm not getting at you here Gary - I'm getting at Google for imposing arbitary penalties all over the place that people can fall into. Google obviously do not believe their own press about natural links.

[GaryTheScubaGuy]

The typical approach by most when acquiring links is to concentrate on just a few, or even one keyword.

By varying anchor text it appears to be a more natural footprint.

There is no true percentage, only the levels at which I have tested in the past and have remained unpenalised.

You are right Gooner, you cannot control the natural link anchor text - and sites are still getting 'bowled', which was supposed to have been eliminated - and to a point Google has prevented much of this - but not 100% so you still need to mind your own links and the anchor text.

Even just this past week Google has been screwing with the algorithm in a way that many have seen. We think its a tweak targeting recipricol links.

[dschall]

If these links really are natural - then how the how does the target site have any influence over what the originating site puts as their anchor text?

Google has a lot of data at their fingertips...they probably have seen a few natural backlink profiles. In general, I think that most truly natural editorial links use the domain name or the words that make up the domain name.

GPWA is not going to be penalized if more then 20% of their links says "GPWA". That wouldn't make sense. But...if 25 percent were to say "casino affiliates", then it can look (and more likely is) unnatural. casinoaffiliates.com could get away with a lot of "casino affiliates" anchors.

I think this is a good way for them to defend against google bombing ("miserable failure"). Hit the threshold and check to see if natural (anchor = url). If not, drop rankings on query.

Gary's 20% is a safe estimate and it makes sense. If I asked 100 family and friends to give me a link to CasinoDave.com without telling them any anchor info, it would look manipulated if more then 20 of them came up with exactly "online blackjack" as the anchor. Doesn't matter that the site is about online blackjack, it really isn't natural (and it is not part of the domain name).

Also, if there wasn't this threshold for duplicate anchor text, whoever had the most money for that anchor would win every time. You may think they do right now, but these penalties can level the playing field (a little).

Its important to point the right keywords at the right pages as well. I usually build links to the homepage for the initial 30-45 days (depending on the target market) with a huge mix of anchor text and then point 50% of the resources at internal links for the next few months, then eventually (4-6 months) I go back and target the Hollywood terms heavy.

Thank you for sharing this Gary...this is a very well thought out plan of attack.

As well as using lots of different variations and modifiers, throw in some "yourdomain.com" and "your domain" anchors to your homepage, and maybe even a few "click here" anchors to make your link profile more natural.

Want to be more aggressive with a specific anchor? Go get a domain name that matches your anchor exactly.

Dave

[lots0]

...and sites are still getting 'bowled', which was supposed to have been eliminated

'Bowling' will always work as long as google is handing out penalties for off site "LINK SPAM".

But if you know how to defend yourself from 'Bowling'... You can watch the spammers waste all kinds of time and effort... Not to mention, that in some cases, you can turn the 'Bowling' attempt to your ranking benefit...

It feels really good beating the spammers... by using their own efforts...

[bbonline]

thanks bbonline
Sorry I just don't quite understand, 1000 and 10 thousand is a huge difference. Do you mean if I want a PR 4 I need to have more than 10 thousand links to my site?

It can be but consider also the quality of backlinks you provide in different sites. And remember, Google always wants fresh and unique content on a site. If you meet those qualifications plus thousands of quality backlinks you can achieved high PR.

[casinojack]

Great thread! hadn't seen "bowling" used in a long time, took me down memory lane...


Now my 2 cents


If you have a super competitive field, and you are "choosing" links, such as pr0 with great content, compared to PR6 with bad content , or content not matching my site/ landing page, everyone is wring; Take both!!

Again, the organic look or natural growth for a site needs to be consistent, i can add 500 links a week, and as long as I never stop, will look natural. Google "sportsbook" and look at the top ten guys, or first 2 pages.. All have SEO staffs of 5+ and buy links on a regular basis. Bottom line I suggest this. Look at the keyword you want, note total searches...check your competitors backlinks. As a rule fo thumb you know what you need to do, and get doing it. Links are still huge in this game.

As far as links "hurting" you or being penalized, I think this is always over ananlized. As a water down effect or whatever. If bad links really hurt you, Why are not more and more people sabotaging the competition ? I know people who have used very very black hat means to try to do this, never heard on success story, always backfires and help them instead!! There is only one way I know of to remove your competitor.

So any rate,great thread, and yes buy links. I do for my niches and works great.

As a sid enote, if the term has under 50k a month in traffic, 6 - 8 good social bookmarks palced well and u will top 3 it 90% of the time

[garydarden]

'Bowling' will always work as long as google is handing out penalties for off site "LINK SPAM".

But if you know how to defend yourself from 'Bowling'... You can watch the spammers waste all kinds of time and effort... Not to mention, that in some cases, you can turn the 'Bowling' attempt to your ranking benefit...

It feels really good beating the spammers... by using their own efforts...

I'm sorry, I'm still a newb, what is "Bowling"?

[TonyT]

Sir,

Relevant anchor text links is what they are buying. I run 29 sites relating to betting and even the new PR0's I own sell because of what your write:

" Relevant links with good anchor text mean more than pr."

Tony

I agree and will take that statement further.

If I have apage with lots of blackjack content on it, I'd take a link from a pr0 page with lots of blackjack content over a pr 4 or pr 5 page that isn't about gambling....and would still prefer the pr0 over a non blackjack gambling page that has a pr2 or pr3.

Relevant links with good anchor text mean more than pr.

I still exchange links but try to do so with relevant pages with matching anchor text. (pm me if interested)

Rick
Universal4

[pauljones]

Hi everyone!

after working day and night with my Swedish casino portal for 3 years without much traffic from google even though I add new unique quality content each day, I decided to try and buy a few quality PR3 and PR4 links.

My tip: Check what links your competitors have with the google backlink checker and contact those sites asap and buy links. Don't be lazy start today, it''s worth it.

/Carl-Johan

Hmm so you had no offsite seo strategy and bought some links...
thread title fail imo, - there's plenty of ways to build up a mega strong link profile without buying links.. it just seems you didn't employ any

encouraging people to buy links isn't particulary great either imo!

[benstrachan79]

hi guys, i am new to the 'online' gaming business, all your posts and advise are valuable, thanks for the hints

[LiveCasinoPartners]

I've stopped trying to calculate the "value" if a link for pure seo terms. If I do get a link it will be for advertising. Links from blogs and blog rolls do bring in extra traffic. I like to think I could not go wrong if I'm doing it for traffic 1st, and secondary link juice.

[universal4]

sawnjosf,

The pattern of your posting in these forums has only ever been to advertise your services.

Although we do allow an occassional note that you offer a product or service that could be a value to members, we encourage ACTIVE participation within the forums.

Having looked at all posts you have done here in the history of you being a member, you have not really shown much effort to be an active aprticipant.

If you are in fact well versed within the SEO Services field, then you should easily be able to become an active participant within the SEO threads.

However, if the only posts you ever plan to make are strictly to advertise yourself, we will likely not allow that to continue.

Rick
Universal4

[giggles7p]

[ck8795]

Hi everyone!

For years I believed that I didn't have to buy links to be successful in google. However a few months ago, after working day and night with my Swedish casino portal for 3 years without much traffic from google even though I add new unique quality content each day, I decided to try and buy a few quality PR3 and PR4 links.

Just 1 or 2 weeks later I started to show up in google for popular keywords. I think everyone working with websites needs to know that in order to succeed you need to buy links, simple as that.

This month I have earned around 2000 euro as affiliate to casinos instead of 30 euro which I earned before I bought links.

Now I only write about 1 new page of content and focusing on buying links instead.

My tip: Check what links your competitors have with the google backlink checker and contact those sites asap and buy links. Don't be lazy start today, it''s worth it.

/Carl-Johan

You dont need to buy links to earn money. Why arent you adding pages and continuing to build your site based around content and internal linking? Find ways to earn those links without having to pay for them. You can rank well with few links and a large amount of content. It's cheaper to

You'll notice I did bold your statement "don't be lazy start today, it's worth it" The reason I did this is because your post is the lazy way of doing things. I dont like to have the same links from the same sites as everyone else for a reason. soo many footprints its crazy and what happens when google starts to devalue those links, or a few of your competitors are tripped for buying links. hmmm site a, b, c, are buying links and look site d seems to be doing the exact same thing.

Save your money and build your sites. Its not always about links.

[linkbroker]

i handle buying and selling for a few high profile gaming sites, if anyone is interested in placements send me a pm and i'll try to help you out.