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    Default Your opinion on SOPA?

    What is your personal opinion on SOPA?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act

    Simple question but yet so interesting.

    Please put some thought in your answer.

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    I saw this and I thought I would share:

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/76244080/SOPA-for-Dummies

    You can call it anti-piracy and present charts and numbers about how U.S. companies lose millions of dollars and that cost jobs, but this bill goes far beyond copyright protection.

    It gives the Government the power to block content on the web without any due process.

    The bottom line, this bill is not about piracy, it's about censorship.

    There is a Twitter campaign to stop it: Twitter effort to #stopsopa

    Change.org has petitions against it as well: http://www.change.org/petitions#search/sopa | http://www.change.org/petitions#sear...20Piracy%20Act
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    100% with Anthony

    These guys also have a very organized campaign to block this act:
    http://demandprogress.org/
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    It is supposed to be about piracy but it seems more aimed towards censorship and there is a large list of companies that are supporting SOPA.

    http://gizmodo.com/5870241/presented...censorship-law

    Many companies have said after getting complaints that they are back tracking and don't understand what they are supporting.

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    Anthony's scribd link compares the law - and America in 2011 to the Nazi's in 1933 ...
    according to well established internet debate rules that is an immediate loss of argument.


    Other things gripe me about that article too ...
    - it wants to argue that stealing a copy of software online is NOT the same as stealing the package from a shop
    - and that because bit torrents and other protocols are also responsible for piracy that nothing should happen.

    As someone who works online and makes a living from creating original content - I disagree with nearly EVERYTHING that the scribd article says. It's a typical whine from a user that is a regular content thief.

    Online piracy is theft - and it does need to be stamped out - and removing the easy directories and targets in the "http:" world does seem to me to be a good way of preventing the average Joe for easily ripping off content.

    This is NOT about censorship - anyone can have a say online / offline / anywhere - just NOT by using other peoples words, songs or digital content.

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    That being said - the powers and rules being outlined in the SOPA bill do not appear to be well thought out - and there does seem to be potential for significant abuse of process.

    So I also oppose the SOPA bill in it's current form - but not the general thrust of the idea

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    Mitko, you know we usually agree on most things ...

    But this reasoning is very off-kilter to me ... and gets a strong reaction.
    Perhaps it's a generational thing - but I don't understand the piracy viewpoint ...

    You've paid $300, $400, $500 for the ipod or ipad hardware - THAT cost $20 to put together in China - the rest is IP value and profit ...
    So now pay $10 for the media that you want to use ...

    IF you don't want to buy that movie, song, book, software at the price ... then don't.
    If you think it's crap - then DON'T view, listen, use or read it.

    But any attempt to justify a price for content that you don't like as a legitimate reason to steal it FAILS COMPLETELY ... IMO.

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    Stealing of software movies and music should be stopped by a bill should address this issue but the bill appears to go too far.

    As for people that earn a living by making music I don't think you would want to say to them that pirating is ok.

    If pirating was a religion then it becomes more difficult to stop
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    I thought that I should share my opinion, not only posting a thread about it.

    As you see in grem's post, we Swede's do have a very liberal opinion about this, heck.. they're even starting churches about copying.. LOL

    As you all know The Pirate Bay origins from Sweden and I have grown up with the "sharing thinking" if you can call it so.
    Played on ZX Spectrum 48k, of course you can copy my tape of games, Oh! C64 and new games? Let me do a copy.

    Later on I had Amiga 600 HD and I bought some games but most games came from friends letting me copy them either by floppy to floppy with a taped corner.. LOL or just transfering files on the HDD.. THAT was though business by then you know.. LOL

    Then I discovered .mp3 and since then mp3 has been hakank goes piracy... in a way...

    I buy the movies I WANT in Blu-Ray.. the rest is considered samples.. If I like it I but it..
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    Default Reddit admins announce January 18 blackout to protest SOPA

    The Internet has been rumbling and mobilizing in response to SOPA. One of the latest acts of protest against the Stop Online Piracy Act is a planned blackout by social website reddit on January 18.
    http://news.yahoo.com/reddit-admins-...062713699.html
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    After the events that took place on Black Friday, I find it hard to support anything that would give the DOJ more power lol I don't like the sound of this bill. It would effectively turn the Internet into a police state, and that defeats the purpose of the Internet IMO. I don't agree with online piracy, but I also don't want the Internet to be fully under the control of the government either.

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    Online piracy legislation has caused such an outcry that the White House is now weighing in.
    http://www.pcworld.com/article/24821..._response.html
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    Online copyright infringement (which I am NOT in favour of) is NOT theft. This misconception has been sold by the people with huge vested interests, such as record company reps. Equating them is not fair at all.

    Theft involves depriving someone of their property. When someone torrents an album, they create a copy, and the creator is deprived of nothing. Some will argue that they would have earned money from the sale of the album, but that only holds true if the copyright infringer would have otherwise gone and bought it - which is rarely the case.

    So - I go round to your house and steal a CD - theft. I make a copy of your CD - copyright infringement.

    I have torrented many, many albums. Most of them I would never consider buying. No-one has lost a penny there.
    Some of them have got me into new bands etc which I have then gone and seen, or bought their new albums etc.

    Oh, and actually yes, I would totally download a car, if I could. That logic is idiotic.

    The reaction from industry has been to try to stop people copying.
    It didn't work with home taping in the 80s (which was apparently "killing music" back then) and it won't work now.
    The music industry is scared because it is becoming increasingly irrelevant - the tools to record, produce, distribute and promote music are now in everyone's hands. Record companies are essentially there to give artists large marketing budgets in return for the majority share of their sales - that model is no longer sustainable. Music won't die, but record companies might.

    New models are evolving which pay creators of the work much fairer percentage of a much smaller price, and that's the way I see things headed. The internet is a great leveller, so companies which have always done well because they have always had huge marketing budgets will have to change to compete.

    When someone steals your work and attempts to profit from it, that crime is more severe - since they are depriving you of profits you could otherwise expect to earn.

    SOPA was idiotic and would have allowed the US government far too much power over the web -thankfully it has already been shot down.
    There weren't many apologists for it and all of them stood to profit from it hugely.
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