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    Thumbs up 10,000 Casino Visitors for $28.47 - Exclusive

    This offer was posted with no malicious intent and no thoughts that the products provided are inferior. For those who were unsatisfied with the global traffic they ordered, we will provide a solution. Although the complaint was that they were not receiving many US visitors.

    We offer US Casino Visitors and Generic (worldwide) Casino Visitors.

    This is pop up traffic and this company has been in business for 7 years and I have not been made aware of ANY better traffic sites. In fact, the people that had compaints ( 2 people ) were asked to provide a place to purchase good casino/gambling traffic. No repsonse was given. I have several successful gambling sites and use this traffic often and I do get results. Please feel free to contact me directly as I would truly appreciate suggestions or even a post on better traffic. I do not see ANY. This web site does offer all types of traffic including many different types of gambling traffic.
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    Hi,

    In generell I think most of this traffic networks are just getting your money, and deliver a few hits... If you are really lucky you get maybe 1 or 2 signups... Thats just my experience, I was an reseller with some of those to, but stopped to promote them...

    I don't want to get on your ass, it's not my intention to insult you or the biz you are running... That are just my personal experiences with this typ of Traffic offers as a buyer and an reseller... so no bad meaning...

    I see that you with ezcybertraffic.com are a reseller of popunderadvertise.com..
    The prices are pretty cheep, and in my point of view just to cheep for real targeted traffic... especially for gambling traffic....

    Are you be able to post actually high traffic gamblingwebsite URL's where those popunders are appear... provide some of this URL's then... I just want to see those sites serving the popunders... I guess that would be my right as buyer to see where my sites will be popped...

    On the other site, who ever is running a gamblingsite with amounts of traffic this high would be become a publisher for those traffic companies??? To become a publisher with popunderadvertise.com they require websites with a minimum of 10,000 unique visitors per month....

    OK, now if this is really targeted traffic what is real, then there must be lots of gamblingsites out there what are having this amount of visitors... Shure, there are some sites what are having this amount, but non of those is serving popunders or popups as a publisher for any trafficseller... Just think about this, who in the gamblingbiz whould be that stupid to become a publisher with any of thos companies? What do they get for it... ???

    You are selling 10.000 gambling visits for 28,74.... popunderadvertise.com are selling this for 20.00.... You as a reseller get them probably for 15.00
    Its nothing wrong with this, you want to live and make money... but think of it.. just take the $20 for the 10.000 visits, the traffic main seller wants to make a few bucks on this order and they have to pay those "publishers" for serving this popunders... So lets say they buy 10.000 popunders from a casino webmaster... maybe they pay those publishers 13 to 18 bucks for 10.000 "highly targeted visitors"

    So, now tell me what for a gamblingwebmaster would give away 10.000 of his visitors for this amount of money.... I'm shure you will not find one... And if so, I would be buying his whole traffic contingent for the next year right away....

    Fact is that most of this traffic sellers are just scams, don't get me wrong, there are a a handfull of services what are really correct... Mostly the traffic is generated on high traffic adult websites, but not with popunders or popovers or whatever popping... There are basically IFRAMES used what have about 1 pixel in size... visitors of those sites will not even see yor site, but your stats will go crazy, show all the hits and visits you got...

    try to use your reseller prices, buy yourself 10, 20 or 50.000 visits and redirect them directly to your best converting affiliate program.... This inclusive a setup campaign tracking..... I bet that you will not receive even a single download..., but all the uniqes will show....

    Thats just my personal experiences with this types of services... Like I said, I don't want to get on your ass or insult you... Its just my experience and opinion on this type of traffic networks and their great sounding and priced offers...

    maybe you can change my mind and proof me wrong.... just post some of the high traffic URL's where those popunders are served...

    I think the only traffic sometimes worth to buy is traffic from expired domain names, but also only if the Trafficseller can provide you with several domains what are getting redirected then it's worth a try.... also if they provide several urls where your popunders are served... this will show you the correct ones...

    If you can do this I will be happy to buy....

    And again, no bad meaning at all, I wish you luck...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonuscasinos
    try to use your reseller prices, buy yourself 10, 20 or 50.000 visits and redirect them directly to your best converting affiliate program.... This inclusive a setup campaign tracking..... I bet that you will not receive even a single download..., but all the uniqes will show....
    Told me he'd been using this traffic for over 4 years and it delievers heaps of sign-ups. Though when I questioned him about 99.9% of it coming from Asian Countires he replied, they are the Biggest gamblers.

    So again taking this guy on his word, I installed a jump page directed to Koreans (they made up the highest %). Yeah that worked NOT...Not one click let alone one sign-up.

    rasnet is selling nothing more than snake oil and delivering it with smoke & mirrors. Nothing more than a scam!


    Take a look for yourself here is my third party tracking stats:
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    I checked out your stats and find it quite interesting that 97% use MSIE and only 0.1% firefox ...
    There defenetly is something wrong... It should be a lot more for firefox, something like 20 - 35 % ...
    Anyway, the traffic looks fishy...

    If he is using this traffic himself for 4 years now, and it would be true that it is that great like he is trying to tell than why selling it at all insteadt of keeping this quiet, buying all available himself and getting all the sign ups himself.... ???

    The asian people are great gamblers, they got a long history of gambling, like in china...
    BUT on the other side its absolutly not permitted there to gamble... I remember seeing in the news last year a big action against gamblingparlors in china... players cought there were punished very hard and got some really long prison for just gambling...
    They also crack down on online gambling... I got some asian traffic from an typodomain i got, not really much, I had redirect this domain also to a AWA casino, but got no single download or registrations... and this traffic is real...

    I guess 90% of this traffic-networks are not straight...
    So if you want to blow your money out of your window then let me know, i will be happy to send you my old URL where you can buy some of it too...

    And again, no bad meaning at all, just experiences with traffic-networks...

    but whoever beleves he get this type of unique gambling traffic for this cheep should just think about overture and other ppc's... why would businesses spend thousands a month for this if they woud get more real traffic that cheap....

    The difference between traffic networks and ppc's is: ppc's work!
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    I purchased some of the traffic and have only received 1983/15000 hits which are mostly from asia. Also sent emails and havent heard responses back. Buyer beware as all is not what is promised.

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    I am truly amazed that people still buy traffic from sources like this. Especially as it is too good to be true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Webzcas
    I am truly amazed that people still buy traffic from sources like this. Especially as it is too good to be true.
    Having hindsight is a splendid thing indeed

    Although I didn't think for a minute that a private member would pull such a stunt. If that's makes me gullible so be it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jharri26
    I purchased some of the traffic and have only received 1983/15000 hits which are mostly from asia. Also sent emails and havent heard responses back. Buyer beware as all is not what is promised.
    Nothing is like what he promised. Since I told him what I really thought, he's not responded to any of my emails either.

    As someone said this traffic or any type of traffic like it is only really good for site branding and to boost your alexa score
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonuscasinos
    but whoever beleves he get this type of unique gambling traffic for this cheep should just think about overture and other ppc's... why would businesses spend thousands a month for this if they woud get more real traffic that cheap....

    The difference between traffic networks and ppc's is: ppc's work!
    I've since been dropping cash at PPC's, not cheap did $185 in three days...lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by wager2winUK
    I've since been dropping cash at PPC's, not cheap did $185 in three days...lol
    hopefully you are using the right ppc's... there are also some black sheeps...

    did you try to spend some money for links on high PR pages? That will get you more in the long sight than a few clicks ... with all the clickfraud out there you never know who really clicks on your ppc listings... many of your competitors probably are just clicking away your budget... anyway, its still better spent money than with those traffic networks.... Many guys here are using ppc's and being successfull with it....

    Its really amazing how this trafficnetworks are still making money, and that even almost everybody knows by now how they work... But I guess it's just life, you learn and learn and learn....

    Maybe I should reactivate my traffic-reseller site... anyone interested in receiving some highly targeted (useless) gamblingtraffic ?

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    A couple of pieces of this thread got lost when the database was damaged

    How sad. There was some important information, that I will try to get typed back in here.

    As of this moment, advertising of any type of traffic is suspended on GPWA. If I have to moderate this forum again, I will do so.

    Selling it is one thing. Mis-representation is another thing altogether. Frankly, were it me, I would offer all of you good people a refund.

    When I was doing this back in the days before I realized it for what it was, I DID offer a refund to anyone that was unhappy with it. To say the results were less than desirable would be an understatement. I will elaborate more on Wednesday Afternoon, and when I realized it for what it was, I STOPPED. I had a website: targetedtrafficdeals.com. It commanded the number one position on google for targeted traffic and gambling traffic for a long time. It was still at number one when I took it offline. An original, and long-time, prominent GPWA member was the first to point it out. I offered him a refund. Several others got refunds too. Then I took it offline. PERIOD. The source is horrible. We searched around. about 75% of what I did find comes from the same source. The other 25% was a different source, but no better than the first. As I said, I will elaborate Wednesday Afternoon.

    Sorry Rasnet. IT'S A FACT. PROVE ME WRONG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by casinoglen
    As of this moment, advertising of any type of traffic is suspended on GPWA.

    It's the right way to protect webmasters what are new to the business!
    That are the targeted customers of this traffic-networks... It's just not right, taking advatage of those....

    Great move to suspend this type of advertising here.....

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    I am sad that we once again must restrict the advertising of all traffic deals.

    I agree that at this time we should suspend the ads....but hopefully we may later create a section where it can be advertised under strict guidelines.

    Hype will sometimes make the sale but not always create customers.....

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    I have played with this sort of traffic in the past and never had any real results from it at all. There may well be the odd valuable traffic supplier source out there (if there are then I certainly haven't found them!), but for the most part they are poor performers.

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    Been there; done that. Its tough being new in this business.

    Anyone wish to by my now un-used domain: TrafficQuality.com? LOL

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    I've also at a time tried this kind of traffic. I must have somewhere in my office a paper with the analysis of the traffic, which was very very very very poor. On the landing page, I was having a registration box for my mailing-list: the only results of this campaign was some few people that searched for sex queries in this box.... that says it all!

    Newbies, this kind of traffic does not exist, or I would have invested thousands in it! With 10,000 'real casino visitors', you should have at least $30,000 net in results (your commissions), with a good landing page and good sponsors! So how some people sell it for a laughable $100? Either they are crazy, or it's a big joke, and that is what it is.
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    You know Rasnet

    Now that you have edited your original post we cannot say what was there but I do recall your saying that we have tried the rest and now try the best. I recall you saying that you personally monitored the uniqueness of the traffic. I recall you saying how wonderful the traffic was.

    The entire post was in fact probably the greatest case of "overselling" in the history of traffic sales.

    And now you post to the effect that that people should provide you with details of where they can find better traffic.

    YOU MISSED THE POINT!!! You hyped your rubbish up and told everyone it was good traffic.

    Fact is that the traffic was junk.

    When it got too hot in the kitchen you opted out in a hurry by ignoring e-mails.

    According to the old thread that got lost when the board was reconfigured, I recall one webmaster who bought traffic saying you were terribly angry and unhappy with his post that the traffic was rubbish. You want to tell us that you were not embarrassed?

    And now you type over the original advertisement?

    Nahhh, that is just plain wrong.

    You have even sought to include an ad for traffic sales on a PPC basis

    People, Revenue Pilot funds are eaten up rapidly by auto clicks. I state this to be a fact. I have used their traffic I recall the deplorable stats generated by Revenue Pilot.

    Want to take issue with me about that statement? Go for it! Somewhere in the history folder in e-mail is the evidence where I debated this with the account manager.

    Casinoglen, I for one vote for a full deletion of this recent post and the restoration of the old one so that people can see it for what it was.

    Total hype without substance!
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    How this particular thread takes me back...... Especially bigbcasinos reply prior to mine...

    There was a heated debate on the subject - editing and deleting posts......

    Caused quite a ruckus.......

    You see, way back when during a time when the DOJ was actively taking several sportsbook websites to court remember????

    Well, people went frantic, editing and deleting just about everything they could. Posts became fragmented. People quit. And, in the end it was decided to leave things as such, that individuals could edit their own posts, as is the case this very day.

    The moral of the story? When someone edits their posts, I can restore it no other way than to restore a database backup, which, anything posted in the interim is then lost.

    There is no way to selectively restore posts here and there. It's a relational database. The easiest way to explain it is that one piece of information resides in this table, another piece in that table and numerical sequences bring them together to match post/user. Now, each thread is assigned a unique number so it's impossible to do that without corrupting the entire continuity of it all.

    So, to make a long story short, whatever is there now, is what I have too. Short of replacing the backup made this past sunday, or whichever one it was prior to the changes, I cannot recover it. By doing that, you lose anything new.....

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    LET ME ALSO ADD:

    THE PROOF THAT HE DID INDEED EDIT THE POST IS RIGHT WITHIN HIS OWN POST, AT THE BOTTOM:
    Last edited by rasnet : Today at 12:01 PM.
    The software places a timestamp anytime a post gets edited from it's original content.

    For you RASNET, I have emailed you countless times. THERE IS NO truly excellent source for this type of traffic, save building your own network of sites like that. Short of knowing the provider personally, and you are 100% sure of the fact that his integrity is intact, you'll never find it.

    As pointed out many times, those that DO HAVE IT, use it themselves, and rightly so.

    That's why I dropped it, and I don't mess with it anymore, but I do still use it because I do believe that there is a use for it in as much as just getting the site seen. But it should NEVER, EVER be sold with the pretense of gaining a single player from it, because that part of the equation is hit or miss. I've bought a batch, and caught 2 low level players. I bought batches numbering into the 1/2 millions with nothing, only to turn around and buy 10k more and land a decent quality player......

    There's no real rhyme or reason to it. It's simply as I said. Hit or miss. To mis-represent it for what it is in any way, is a gross injustice to the people you are selling it to.

    That particular source is LESS THAN DESIRABLE. As I said, there's no such thing as a really good source.

    There used to be...... Then they started allowing everyone in the world to be a "publisher", and those publishers in turn started using autohit sites and such to increase their daily impressions so they could in turn get more money.

    It's my opinion, that this is what happened to Casino Trade. They started just allowing anyone to become a member, those guys, mainly new people, though well intentioned perhaps, started diluting the quality of the traffic, by growing the number of hits they get in return with source from unrelated type websites, to where at some point, what you end up with is a whole lot of pops from sites that have nothing at all to do with gambling, at a ratio of 60-70% or better. In other words, you end up with about 7 out of 10 being non-related.

    Still, with that said, Casino Trade is better than anything else you will find for gambling related sites.

    I will write more on this later, as we prepare a test of that same traffic for non gambling related sites...... A test I plan on running this weekend. I'm running it starting Friday, it's gonna be an offer that's almost hard to refuse, and I'll be using the source you currently have been using......

    I will post the results Monday.
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    Rasnet, you cannot hide. Never ever. Here is your original post. If you want to dispute that. Look at google's cache of this page. Look NOW before it is replaced OK?

    Do not later say that I have made ANY changes because I have NOT

    For a limited ONLY. EZCYBERTRAFFIC is offering a deal that cannot be touched. I have been in the gambling Industry also for years and must have tried two dosen of this type of advertising and this is by far the best company and bst program. I "ALWAYS" received results and real signups. for $28.47 for 10,000 REAL Casino/Gambling visitors no one can lose, only WIN!

    Targeted Traffic = Sales

    ezcybertraffic.com is connected to a high volume advertising network offering real, fully targeted website traffic at unbelievably low prices.

    You no longer need to spend months preparing your site for search engines and trying every traffic exchange program on the web to get thousands of visitors to your site, not now that you have found us. Increase site traffic today

    We don't deliver a small banner ad or pop-ups when you buy traffic, we deliver real visitors. A full page window featuring your website - this carries the highest conversion rate of any form of online advertising.


    We send high quality targeted visitors who actually see your website. See how many other guaranteed hits companies will send you TARGETED traffic.

    Look at the services page to see what types of targeted traffic we deliver, and find the one that will be best for you.

    Visit us today and try us out! For $28.47 you can only gain. Here are some other prices and the address to Loads of New Web Site Visitors and New Sign Ups!

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    If you have been using Pop up advertising you will see shortly how ezcybertraffic.com brings much higher quality prospects to your web site. There are no pop-ups allowed on your home page.

    How We Work - http://www.ezcybertraffic.com/services.htm

    Feel free to read all about us on our services page. Here is the link to the main page and for placing orders. Orders are set up with in 24 hours. This is by far the best traffic at the best price you can find!

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