AffEurope's Affiliate Commission Theft: APCW Perspectives for 23rd January, 2015

**Integrity** · 23 January 2015, 5:21 pm

AS PROMISED.... This week we discuss the theft of webmaster commissions currently
being perpetrated by the AffEurope Affiliate Program. Other news includes online gambling regulations in
various U.S. states, plus a new roll out from Ladbrokes.

**TheGooner** · 23 January 2015, 7:01 pm

Good show. Thanks for putting it together.

The "new Ladbrokes rollout" seems to consist of a new pretty front page.
Everything else looks the same.

**mojo** · 23 January 2015, 8:38 pm

Thank you J. Great work as always. Hope all is well.

What would you say to affiliates that see this:

This week we discuss the theft of webmaster commissions currently
being perpetrated by the AffEurope Affiliate Program.

And simply want to give up. These headlines go on and on for years and years. It's always good to start a conversation. Why are we always in the same ole boat?

**Integrity** · 23 January 2015, 9:24 pm

Sorry for the short reply but I started coming down with a bug last night and I feel like poo. Maybe if I didn't stand in the rain like a fool while I film?

We started a thread in the Chatter Box to talk about exactly the frustrations you are feeling. It's this sort of crap that has also motivated me to get APCW back to the front lines of the fight.

Gonna rest for the weekend but I will lurk. Hope to be back on track Monday.

**mojo** · 23 January 2015, 9:35 pm

I will look for it j. Hope you feel better! Keep up the fantastic work.

**Roulette Zeitung** · 24 January 2015, 4:44 am

Sorry, but the video comes too late to protect webmasters.
The damage has been done and the webmaster purses are weakened and ill.
Hello?
AffEurope is dead since 31. December 2014.
Enough warning signals before this date!

Latest September 2014 the situation was crystal clear for people with common sense: http://www.affiliateguarddog.com/com...us-crime.7956/

The main thing is, that AffEurope is working now under false flag with hit on campaigns, based on probably stolen privacy data lists and cooperate with the 2nd most evil program in this industry: https://www.gpwa.org/forum/unwanted-contact-220995.html

AffEurope ... so many warning signs ... fake technical errors ... fake hacker attacks ... fake false webmaster cashouts ...

A well-meant advice for the future ... sometimes it's better to close the barn door before the horse has escaped.

Leopold

**GCG** · 24 January 2015, 5:06 am

GPWA / APCW : why not contact their software provider PLAYTECH, just send them a short email that these casinos are in violation.

a car without the engine wont go far..........

so instead of wasting your time by blacklisting these 3 casinos why not request the main partner to do something about it.

negative videos about playtech allowing these 3 cheating casinos to continue to use their software should be a very good example for the rest.

so hammering the software provider is better IMO as they are much more willing to avoid negative exposure.

**Integrity** · 24 January 2015, 2:56 pm

Leopold I appreciate the frustration you feel. I guess that explains your negative comments about our efforts with the video which came just three weeks after the close.

I did not return to work until after New Years after well over a month away. When I was made aware of thus situation I pursued the issue, but as part of this company I have to follow proceedure in these matters. That's fair to webmasters, programs who support us and to GPWA/APCW itself.

As far as our efforts coming too late, had my health been better and I had been in the forums perhaps we could have given a warning in October. No one was blowing up my inbox on the issue either, tho. And it's hard to make a video calling a program out as thieves until the theft is actually perpetrated.

Hopefully the return of a more aggressive APCW and the negative publicity will have some influence on those who may consider such actions in the future.

GCG I tried negative videos against Microgaming when Grand Prive, Tusk and Eurolinks all went down. Those videos were actually not productive at all and caused greater harm to our working relationship with MG. Michael can chime in in thia since he caught the brunt.

**sweetbet** · 24 January 2015, 3:22 pm

Thank you for another great video as always.

**Roulette Zeitung** · 24 January 2015, 3:43 pm

Originally Posted by Integrity

Hopefully the return of a more aggressive APCW and the negative publicity will have some influence on those who may consider such actions in the future.

"the return of a more aggressive APCW"

Unfortunately, it's the only language some programs -not worth the word- understand.

Leopold

**Integrity** · 24 January 2015, 4:04 pm

Originally Posted by Roulette Zeitung

Unfortunately, it's the only language some programs -not worth the word- understand.

This is true. That's why it takes a while to respond sometimes. Each program is different and each response planned. The industry watches how we handle these things... good or bad. And as much as I personally would like to go after some things, I have grown to understand the need for professional, thought and actions.

AffEurope's horrible conduct is but one piece of a very large industry we will be working in long after they are gone.

**DaftDog** · 1 February 2015, 10:14 am

Originally Posted by Integrity

GCG I tried negative videos against Microgaming when Grand Prive, Tusk and Eurolinks all went down. Those videos were actually not productive at all and caused greater harm to our working relationship with MG. Michael can chime in in thia since he caught the brunt.

Why do you need a good "working relationship" with gaming software providers? They are the ones who licence their software to casinos so it would seem right to put pressure on them if they continue to licence seemingly shady joints.

**allfreechips** · 1 February 2015, 1:23 pm

Playtech will not assist in any manner as I tried to go down that path in the past, I believe they sell the software and have no restrictions on how it is used as long as they get paid.

I dont think I even got my last payment from aff europe either...

**-Shay-** · 1 February 2015, 1:53 pm

Originally Posted by allfreechips

Playtech will not assist in any manner as I tried to go down that path in the past, I believe they sell the software and have no restrictions on how it is used as long as they get paid.

I dont think I even got my last payment from aff europe either...

I strongly suspect if they're "made" to care, they will care (Club Gold comes to mind).

**GCG** · 1 February 2015, 1:59 pm

Originally Posted by allfreechips

Playtech will not assist in any manner as I tried to go down that path in the past, I believe they sell the software and have no restrictions on how it is used as long as they get paid.

I dont think I even got my last payment from aff europe either...

IMO it can not hurt to expose those who keep AffEurope afloat, surely Playtech would not like bad press if exposed selling software to criminals.

Besides that this should not be endorsed as it this will only stimulate other brands to do the same.

**Integrity** · 2 February 2015, 8:16 pm

Originally Posted by Ixian

Why do you need a good "working relationship" with gaming software providers?

My friends, I hear everything you're saying and understand your frustrations. As someone who made his living as a webmaster for many years I sympathize with your position. However, all I can really say is that it's a very complicated situation and a business decision was made as to how Microgaming was dealt with. Since that decision was made by Michael, I would really prefer he address this issue himself when he returns from London.

**ocreditor** · 3 February 2015, 5:39 am

I didn't receive my commission as well from AffEurope, I got a "personal" promise from my AM that it'll be paid asap

This was a lie !

**ocreditor** · 4 February 2015, 3:44 am

We have posted a news article warning players:
http://www.onlinecasinoreports.com/a...affiliates.php.

**Integrity** · 4 February 2015, 3:58 pm

Originally Posted by ocreditor

I didn't receive my commission as well from AffEurope, I got a "personal" promise from my AM that it'll be paid asap

This was a lie !

Anyone else missing payments? They keep giving my material for the show, don't they?

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