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    Obviously the program must feel scammed care to share what traffic if any at all you have given the program ? I'm not saying it's okay to threaten someone with death but if your robbing Paul to repay Peter your in deep trouble and unlike most of these professional affiliate programs I know a ton of bookies that would have your kneecaps messed up for not taking care of your responsibilities. Let's hope for everyone involved things get resolved correctly and professionally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK View Post
    Obviously the program must feel scammed care to share what traffic if any at all you have given the program ? I'm not saying it's okay to threaten someone with death but if your robbing Paul to repay Peter your in deep trouble and unlike most of these professional affiliate programs I know a ton of bookies that would have your kneecaps messed up for not taking care of your responsibilities. Let's hope for everyone involved things get resolved correctly and professionally.
    Hi

    In respects to your question above, the campaign was placed on hold until they responded to the GPWA and concerns of other affiliates. I suggest you goto their forum section to see why. They are not bookies they are suppose to be a professional run run business. Their campaign is for 12 months and there were no issues other than their software issues that were raised by other affiliates. There Agreement had no refund clause and the campaign was to display their banners for a 12 month period flat fee.

    As i said, we have now discussed things with Marin and providing he can disclose their software licence we are proceeding with the campaign. A refund was offered, but that does not make it right for any programs actually to threaten someone or their kids Period.

    Concerns about their program, software and other matters have still not been addressed with the gpwa. But i am willing to proceed on the conditions their software has been licenced and tested. I have also touched base with Michael and i have asked him to assist where needed.

    Also, there is no robbing Paul to pay Peter so to speak, all campaigns with us "unless other terms have been discussed and agreed to" have a 12 month terms and no refunds are due until the end of that campaign if targets are not met.
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    I really don't know much about this but maybe a point to consider is to not charge fixed fees in future - this means the operator will not be expecting certain results and therefore no problems.

    Once you have built up players, commissions and a relationship with the operator over time, fixed fees could be introduced then.

    This is why revenue share is the key - based on performance, not on expectations which one party could be unhappy about. Just my opinion - sorry if I offend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christoff View Post
    I really don't know much about this but maybe a point to consider is to not charge fixed fees in future - this means the operator will not be expecting certain results and therefore no problems.

    Once you have built up players, commissions and a relationship with the operator over time, fixed fees could be introduced then.

    This is why revenue share is the key - based on performance, not on expectations which one party could be unhappy about. Just my opinion - sorry if I offend.
    I agree with you 100%,

    It was a trial an error type of thing. It is pretty clean cut and simple and terms are outlined prior to the casinos agreeing. In this particular case it was another affiliate that raised concerns about this program on the GPWA you can read these concerns here https://www.gpwa.org/forum/affiliate4you.html , then they were suspended here due to alot of people raising different points in their software issues and licencing.

    Since i made this post yesterday I have spoken with Marin who seems to be the main affiliate manager and raised the concerns about the Petr person. Authorities here in New Zealand & Russia have now completed the trace on the phone calls that were made to our home and will be monitoring any future incoming calls from these particular people.

    From my chat with Marin, he is in total agreement those calls should never have been made. I respect Marin as he has been very upfront with me and honest to me as far as i can tell.

    We have agreed to advertise what they paid for and that is 12 months placement on our site, but i have strongly informed them I would like confirmation of software testing and would like them to produce the licence they have applied for in Malta.

    A refund was offered even though it was not in there agreement, but the placement option will go ahead. I also requested that I deal with Marin from now on and also requested that Petr no longer contacts us anymore.

    Marin did say Petr has money invested in this casino & he said that Petr feels like there are alot of affiliates that are ripping him off based on the GPWA issues that were raised. They also informed me they are refusing to work with GPWA and I should not take notice of GPWA.

    But that in my opinion is totally silly. I will give them the benefit of the doubt and display there banners as agreed, but thats as far as we are taking this issue with them. Providing they do not continue to threaten our home I will not be taking any further legal action.

    I have requested contact details for the CEO as well and will take the Matter with Petr up with the CEO if i can track him down.
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    Another Update:

    Petr or Peter which ever his name is has just written via Skype and given me an apology. I think i over reacted when the threat came in and should have taken a breath before posting. Could this thread please be locked, but left to view in the event future issues occur.

    Michael and Steven i will email you a copy of our contract with them, Just so the GPWA are aware of the terms they have agreed to. Can you provide me an email to send these to please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Players Luck - Jamie View Post
    Hi there

    I have received a phone call from Petr from affiliate 4 you demanding we refund his money for a campaign we had placed on hold pending the outcome of the GPWA invewstigation within 24 hours hours or he will send someone to New Zealand to come and kill us. They are there exact words.

    I want some help in contacting the FBI in relation to this they did not even try and discuss things. I mentioned GPWA and when will they be responding, and he said they have people ready to come to New Zealand to our home.

    Can someone please advise me on contacting the FBI obviously xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx i will report them to the authrorites here in New Zealand as well. I want contact information to the police in there country also.

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    Hmmm, sounds now like Dave's accessment HERE was not too far off base..eh

    If I were you though Jamie, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it, in most mob hits the target is never warned ahead of time. So it really sounds like baseless threats to me and them just simply trying to scare ya.

    Just curious though why they would threaten you and not the GPWA as well or did the GPWA give them back their money too? Don't think that was ever answered anywhere here but I may be wrong and someone can point me to that answer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGamblingGuru View Post
    Hmmm, sounds now like Dave's accessment HERE was not too far off base..eh

    If I were you though Jamie, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it, in most mob hits the target is never warned ahead of time. So it really sounds like baseless threats to me and them just simply trying to scare ya.

    Just curious though why they would threaten you and not the GPWA as well or did the GPWA give them back their money too? Don't think that was ever answered anywhere here but I may be wrong and someone can point me to that answer...

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    Not sure about the gpwa comment. I have received an apology though and assured that won't happen again. The threat came because i had placed their campaign on hold pending the out come of the GPWA's investigation.

    But from what i see GPWA have suspended and are still waiting for information. Gpwa would have to respond to that question because i don't really know.

    First thing that came to my mind when this happened though, DAVE was right...lol
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    So what happened to this case? Did the campaign go live or did you send them their money back?

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    Campaign was agreed to continue. There is another issue now, but does not warrant removing the campaign. It seems a member of their staff has sold and used an email database list of fellow affiliates to promote another gambling forum. Which is also unacceptable. So as Affiliate 4 You respond we will update. Can't do much if they are not emailing us back.

    Once there campaign has expired it most defiantly will not be renewed.

    Also as far as I am aware, GPWA have also suspended this companys profile on the GPWA
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    which gambling forum did they sell to? I am tired of spam and don't like the idea of hearing my data being sold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Players Luck - Jamie View Post
    Also as far as I am aware, GPWA have also suspended this companys profile on the GPWA
    Yes, we removed their sponsorship initially under the possibility that they would resolve the problems raised and we would consider reinstatement if the problems were fixed.

    However, I continued to follow up with them after the removal and they made no apparent effort to fix any of the problems. They have since stopped replying to my messages.
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    i just got an email from them in my personal email box.

    It includes a list of so many affiliates email addresses.

    I have over 600 email addresses for affiliates that came from them

    Obviously a sold list. This is just terrible - my email has been compromised like this.


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    Yes, we removed their sponsorship initially under the possibility that they would resolve the problems raised and we would consider reinstatement if the problems were fixed.

    However, I continued to follow up with them after the removal and they made no apparent effort to fix any of the problems. They have since stopped replying to my messages.

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    Same with me steven. I too also have copies of all these emails addresses. I will be throwing them in the trash out of respect for others involved. But this just outlines the totally unprofessional approach this company will goto. I will be glad when their campaign is up and they will be removed from my site at the strike of midnight....lol

    The forum they are trying to promote in these emails is xhttp:www.forumcasino dot info and they are also using the same emails to promote another brand they have seemed to have launched and that is: xhttp:www.luckylifecasino dot com which is closely matched to http://www.luckylivecasino.com/ who is owned by Live Casino Partners. Maybe Live Casino Partners may need to do something legally. The name is so similar with live and life

    I am messaging from hospital in my nice warm bed at the moment, but hope to be back home tomorrow so i can research this some more.
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