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Hello guys,
I've got idea how to get new affiliates, but im not sure if its legal. I want to ask before i will start. I want to create website page, fanpage and twitter accounts with tips. I want to give tips for free for players who will create accounts by my refer for example in william hill. Is it legal and avaibile?
For example
"Hello, we can give U 2 tips per day for free if U will create an account in william hill, bet365 or bet at home by our refer'
You're asking if to be an affiliate is legal?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudson
LoL... are you saying we are all outlaw here? :D
Roulette Zeitung alias Leopold alias L. is the worst... beware of it. $100.000 dead or alive :D
BTW, to be serious: your example looks to me "quite spammy". I would not follow anyone that annoys me every 5 minutes with tweets of fb shares like this.
Better if you start to build your own, little castle: a good website with tips, tricks and all goodies for visitors ;)
You dont understand my idea. I dont want to spam and share posts with my offer. I've got this idea because ive got about 30-50 messages from players who wants my tips. Im starting in affiliates programs and i want to be sure, that they will not block my accounts if i will do this strategy, cause somebody can tell that is spam - on terms and conditions in all bookies is not legal.
(Possible) Reply: "Ehr... I want just two tips to use for other bookies..."Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudson
If someone may ever use this (possible) reply and then reports you... yes, it's risky: major social platforms can close your account.
Imo it is lowclass even when not exactly spam. I guess the people go to you because you are a bettor posting picks or so. You want to maintain the status of a buddy giving out picks for free. There are much better ways how to do it. E.g. deeplink directly to the betslip with affiliate cookie. You will be stil cheap affiliate ***** but almost nobody will recognize it. And that might be (sadly) the trick.
I know bet365 offers those deeplinks for the biggest affiliates. I have seen it elsewhere too, can not recall now.
Thank You for your help. Major social platforms can close, u mean - facebook, twitter, instagram? Are U sure that bookies affiliates, for example bet365, will not block my affiliate account for this?
Social platform "could" close your accounts, yes. There is a remote possibility... not so remote.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudson
Some affiliate bookies don't block hacker's accounts... so, go for it. Don't worry :D
Read what Sherlock has to say, it's interesting ;)
Thank U Sherlock, have u got maybe other ideas about better ways excluding deeplinks which for sure are not avaible for me - im to small affiliate.
I think when offering tips it's difficult to catch every player via your affiliate link because a lot of people looking for tips will already have betting accounts and it will be against the bookies T's & C's to open a duplicate account, especially from organic to affiliated.
IMO the best way to catch your traffic is give tips to everyone on either via e-mail or by signing up to a website. That way you can gather all the player information and send out your two tips a day(if that's how you want to do it) via email and suggest using it with X bookies welcome offer. Chances are some of them will already have an account and some wont but thats the name of the game - so to speak.
Also if your tips are any good you won't be earning any commission :clap:
I think you can give tips to the players who are asking you for the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudson
As I can realise, tips are someone's opinion based on some knowledge and information, but they are not 100% sure. So basically you'd offer your opinion to your visitors, but under your conditions - if they open account in particular sportsbook :)
In my opinion that's it doesn't sound too attractive. I'd rather share some tips on my website, if I was you, but suggesting your members or visitors places (bookies) where they can actually place their bets you shared, to choose from. Those bookies would of course have some reviews and useful info. If you're a good tipster, you might get some loyal members and followers, but I don't think that offering tips in exchange of opening an account is the best idea. Beside, wouldn't it be not so easy to follow up with if they really opened account and "deserved" 2 tips that way? Maybe in case of a couple of people, but if that number would increase...?
I agree with Jelena. One of the most important things for a professional tipper is to gain trust from your visitors. Forcing them to sign up through your own affiliate links in order to get your tips would be a big no no for me. It sounds too much like a scam and I would wonder what the catch is. It would also lead me to believe your tips are not of good quality for the same reason. That's two serious doubts that I would get from your proposition leading me to back off straightaway. I do want to compliment you for your out of the box thinking. The greatest ideas and projects come from people that try new things, something that is especially difficult in the gaming affiliate business.
Perfectly legal as others have suggested. Many many ways to go about how you present it to your potential target market. What are your ideas on how you would approach it's?
Whilst I agree that it is a bad idea to withhold tips like this, and offer an exchange for sign-ups, I think there is a case for affiliates to be more direct with their audience.
If you think that you provide a good service, and it's for free, then why not ask your followers to show their support by signing up to one of the recommended betting sites, by clicking on one of your links.
I've seen it on sites before, something along the lines of "we want to keep our tips free, but running this website costs money. If you like what we do, and want to help us keep the service free, please sign-up with one of our recommended brands by following the relevant link below"
Hi Rudson
I may be barking up the wrong tree but my guess is that your original questions revolved around if bookie affiliates programs would feel it ok for you to try and encourage people to join via your link by promising those who do join up free tips?
ie you are worried the bookmaker may kick you out if they deem that not cool etc?
IF so..
Most bookies will have terms regarding use of incentive. They will vary operator by operator but often the rough angle they take is "no incentive without prior authorisation"
In short they may deem it ok for you to offer extra incentive or they may not.
It just depends on the exact nature of what you plan to do and the deal you are on with them.
What they don't want is paying you out big bounties for rubbish players who never really play and only go through bookie join up hoops to get your incentive.
Cash back sites for example may attract lots just after cash back from the cash back site. The cash back is all such referred players may be after. They are of no real use to the bookie who is forking out free bet cash and bounty cash to you.
A bit better from the bookies perspective if you were on revshare not bounty perhaps. That would reduce their perceived risk a bit.
On the other hand if the incentive offered is something only a true punter would want then they may judge it a well targeted incentive likely to bring them in what they feel is quality traffic.
There are merits in the model becasue you will be giving punters a strong reason to join the bookie under you. A simple banner advert model would need a lot more traffic to produce the same referral rate I suspect. As an affiliate you are not concerend with giving the merchant free brand exposure and advertising. You need to be the one who seals the deal.
But do check bookie terms in detail. Then make appropriate contact and seek advance approval for your use of incentive.
If some approve and some do not c'est la vie. Just work with the ones that give you a clear ok. Up and running for a while you may find some of the original doubters change their tune. You only need a small panel of bookies to make the model work.
Actually tracing and tracking if a claimer of your reward did indeed join under you will be another issue for you. Some bookie affiliate systems are better set up than others with that respect.
If you like the idea and see it as a good fit for you ..I wouldn't put you off trying it.
Actually thinking of doing similar on a site I run myself. Said site is doing circa £30k profit a month but only 1.5% of that is from bookies. Little historic effort put into bookies I guess. But I like the addedd incentive model as a possible effective idea to get people to take action.
I just need to find a few honest bookies to work with. Finding honest ones is the stumbling block. :)
And if you are offering free tips think in advance about making a promise to claimers that you actually will keep.
Time limit the access to your free tips perhaps instead of a lifetime or forever promise.
You will see quite a few bookie getting slated on this forum for doing the opposite. They duped promoters in with headline lifetime commission large print promises only to later on welch on such promises. Many have repeatedly proven their morals and ethics very low.
Try and do the opposite for yourself with careful promises made that you work very hard to keep.
Cheers
Mick