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    I think you will find in my case it was a pretty huge difference.

    Anyway, I dont think we will ever see eye to eye of AffUtd, so its probably just best if we keep the thread on track and get Moizez money back

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBoyMitchell View Post
    I think you will find in my case it was a pretty huge difference.

    Anyway, I dont think we will ever see eye to eye of AffUtd, so its probably just best if we keep the thread on track and get Moizez money back
    Agreed.

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    Back to the topic issue

    Less than 7 days after I posted this message they have a solution, so that means this forum is useful.

    They say they will pay but only a tenth of the money owed.

    The solution is that, $58000 have been deducted from the $68000 net rake because of a chargeback, my brother has not received any documentation that proves the chargeback.

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    Wow. Good work on getting a resolution quickly, but that chargeback sounds a bit iffy...not sure what to do about that as its going to be your word against theirs without screengrabs - and why would you do screengrabs, there's no reason for you to have done.

    I think your AM needs to post on here and clarify the issue. At least that way its recorded for posterity if nothing else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moizez View Post
    Back to the topic issue

    Less than 7 days after I posted this message they have a solution, so that means this forum is useful.

    They say they will pay but only a tenth of the money owed.

    The solution is that, $58000 have been deducted from the $68000 net rake because of a chargeback, my brother has not received any documentation that proves the chargeback.

    Wow I am completely shocked.. not.

    Now, when it comes down to it, how did he make the deposits?

    Both moneybookers and Neteller are a guaranteed method meaning, no chargebacks can be made and I know for a fact that there is no way in hell he could deposit more than 7k a month with his creditcard without signing the creditcard charges made to the account which would probably void the chargebacks. A wiretransfer would also be guaranteed Also the manilla based support would push for the player to deposit using neteller with bigger and better bonuses. Any other method that is not guaranteed would have restrictions on them to avoid this.

    In other words it is total bullshit and I would bet my right hand that chargebacks where not made for that amount. Well done affutd.

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    All I can say is - just forget about AffUTD and casinos they promote! They also removing players (high rollers). I'm removing evey single banner and text link I have on my sites....

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    >>just forget about AffUTD and casinos they promote!

    What about William Hill ?

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    moizez any new developement? I noticed that affutd did not reply to this thread even thought it was moved a week ago. How fitting.

    William Hill is affutd, I would personally not touch them considering the crap they try to pull.

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    Its unlikely AffUtd will respond directly to these threads. I believe they have been in contact with the OP though

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    Does anyone do well with them? I've always thought they were shady. They have a great brand with WH, but the affiliate side is pretty bad.

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    The issue is solved. It was a fraudulent player, and affutd will send us a payment of $1,000.

    PCB

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    From: Rama Crevato <xxxx.xxxxxxx@williamhill.com>
    Date: Sun, May 9, 2010 at 2:43 PM
    To: PokerCasinoBets <xxx@pokercasinobets.com>


    Hi Juan,



    How are you?



    Can you please post on the forum that the issue is solved? Our management really want to see and read about soon.

    https://www.gpwa.org/forum/affutd-no...188463/p3.html



    I will take care then to send you the payment of $1,000 asap.



    Let me know,



    Thanks and Best Regards



    Rama Crevato
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    xxxx.xxxxxxx@williamhill.com
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    From: Rama Crevato
    Date: Sun, May 3, 2010 at 1:18 PM
    To: PokerCasinoBets

    Hi Juan,

    In the Stats the Total NetGaming appears still $10,560, Deposit amt $72,405 and the Chargeback $58,061. Wow, credit card companies are silly enough to accept a $58k chargeback???

    In Real the Total NetGaming is $4,000 and the difference is because the different rate change between $ - € from November till April, since the original currency of the deposit was euro.

    In november Euro/USD conversion rate was 1.5, we made the credit in a rate of 1.35. AND??? What if now is 1.8???

    This was a fraud player, he made a deposit using Instant Wire Transfer as payment method without really having the money to deposit ???. Anyway the credit got in his player account and in the stats, but the money werent clear and never transferred. Its like if he gave us a not check without having the money to cover it in the bank.

    I hope is all clear and fine now. In the next days we will pay you $1,000 Commission from the Real NetGaming. Its going to be a very good commission for 1 fraud player.


    Never was our intention not to pay you since you posted at GPWA, but you need to understand that we risked to lose a lot of money here and still we didnt make any real profit.

    We would like to explain and clear this issue on the GPWA forum https://www.gpwa.org/forum/affutd-no...on-188463.html where you posted about this giving us a bad image . We will also post, but I ask you please to post there directly saying that all was cleared and fixed , you are going to be paid and was matter of bad luck to catch such a player, ok?

    Let me know please, we are looking forward to pay you and keep a successful partnership in the future.






    Thanks and Best Regards



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    Of course this never happens to a top affiliate, but if you are not have only 3-6 depositors in 2 years and just one is a highroller pray to not have it with affutd

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    Hi,

    I am the webmaster of http://playbonuscasino.com and Rama Crevato is my affiliate manager since 2 years, I would like to say that I always got paid my commission from Affutd in perfect time and Rama is a very good Affiliate Manager, always available and he helped me a lot to optimize and increase my business.

    This issue shouldn't effect nor his name, nor affutd reputation, cause a problem can happen anytime to anybody, and affutd is defenetely one of the best.


    Regards,
    J

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    And? This is how is suppossed to be.



    Dutiful boy (all here know you posted because Rama told you). Did he offer some of the money he stole juanpcb?

    Quote Originally Posted by playbonuscasino View Post
    Hi,

    I am the webmaster of http://playbonuscasino.com and Rama Crevato is my affiliate manager since 2 years, I would like to say that I always got paid my commission from Affutd in perfect time and Rama is a very good Affiliate Manager, always available and he helped me a lot to optimize and increase my business.

    This issue shouldn't effect nor his name, nor affutd reputation, cause a problem can happen anytime to anybody, and affutd is defenetely one of the best.


    Regards,
    J

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    Dir Sir,

    Due to our records your paymnet was paid on time.

    Please check your account. the payment went through on the 7th of June.

    Have a nice day.

    Karin
    Affiliate Program Marketing Coordinator.

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    Hi,
    Since I started working in the industry 2 years ago Rama Crevato is my Affiliate Manager,and he was always available and always helped us to optimize and increase the level of our business. In addition we always got paid from Affutd what promised, couple of times with a delay maybe, but can happen with anybody, never a missing payment a side some misunderstanding... Now i'm waiting another payment but I think that there aren't problems.

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    On time? let say 6 months later and after complaining here, and yes, I received a payment but this payment was $16000 less than expected not a couple of hundreds, also, nobody in this bussiness belives the fraud player answer given, nobody (check other posts about this on other affiliate forums).
    Now another mercenarie will answer "I belive that the fraud player answer given could be true"

    Quote Originally Posted by Affiliates United View Post
    Dir Sir,

    Due to our records your paymnet was paid on time.

    Please check your account. the payment went through on the 7th of June.

    Have a nice day.

    Karin
    Affiliate Program Marketing Coordinator.

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