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    Quote Originally Posted by monsterbet View Post
    Given this thread i will not be promoting this casino or any within their group and i'm sure a few other players and affiliates will find this interesting reading.
    I am sorry you feel that you can't promote us based on this thread alone, seems an odd call but I sure hope you look to reconsider at some point. We have a lot to offer you and your players/traffic and I can assure you that if I felt that what I posted was in any way damaging to me/us/the casino then I would not have posted it or I would have edited it. The player brought this to the open and as a result, you had a right to know how this guy acts with casinos he plays at.

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    Is there generally a standard out there that specifies the confidentiality, or otherwise, of online chat sessions specifically?

    Are we only assuming that these sessions were confidential in the first place?

    I ask because I've just had a quick scan of the privacy policies of a few operators and found only pretty general phrases about 'information we collect' and usually followed by something like 'we reserve the right to use this information...' etc etc

    Not looking to stir the pot but this raises a point about what actually is and is not confidential.

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    I think we need a poll to see how the general membership feel about posting chats/emails etc. as I've seen strong pro & cons.

    Personally, I feel that if you type it in a format that is not OFF-LINE then be prepared to have it shown, but that's just me.

    I don't have an opinion on if it's the right thing to do, but I do feel that sometimes it's necessary to 'show' then to just tell.

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    I think its a case by case basis which should take in

    What the content is
    The reasons behind the post
    The information that the content provides

    At the end of the day what Martyn posted is complete gibberish which doesn't hurt the OP whatsoever or give away anything confidential. The OP was looking to start trouble following being banned from another board and Martyn closed this off before the thread took off. The OP can be paid if he provides the info needed and is polite

    Personally I think this thread title should be changed and locked with a new thread on confidentiality started as its going to lose its way and Affiliate Edge will get tainted for doing nothing wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Players Luck - Jamie View Post
    Grow up, this isn't a playground of he said she said, and we are defiantly not at school. Do what is asked and send the information they require and wait. Just like the rest of us.
    But I have sent the documents and ive been told that they are approved. So Alladins Gold IS scam.

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    In brief - what does the Data Protection Act say about the 'conditions for processing'?

    What is meant by consent:

    One of the conditions for processing is that the individual has consented to their personal data being collected and used in the manner and for the purposes in question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by holkapolka View Post
    But I have sent the documents and ive been told that they are approved. So Alladins Gold IS scam.
    So the documents have been approved, you say. When were they approved and what was your withdrawal method? Things have to be processed, which isn't straight away. How long has your issue been going on and what was the date they approved your documents? Receiving them does mean they are approved btw.

    Also just because you haven't received your payment yet, does not mean they are a scam. There could be a number of reasons, which i am sure there are in your case. But calling a place a scam then abusing there staff is not the right way to go about it. It won't speed the process up at all.
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    Holkapolka,

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    You have been notified what is required, please deal with our CS staff (politely) at Aladdin's Gold.
    Why are you still posting here when Martyn asked you to deal with CS? I'm sure there's good reason you were banned at Casinomeisters. Obviously so after seeing the way you speak to customer service. Chances are good that you've brought these delays on yourself by being so rude to support. If I was the one listening to you speak the way you did to them, you would have found it only would cause problems and not get your withdrawal done faster as you would hope. A little courtesy goes a long way. No one has to listen to that sort of talk.

    I agree completely with alexpratt's post.

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    You're like a dog with a bone, just let it go.

    I think it was relevant for the snippet of the chat to be posted here because it shows that the player isn't in a stable state of mind.

    The way you're going on, you could be forgiven for thinking that your identity was about to be stolen.

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    You're like a dog with a bone, just let it go.

    I think it was relevant for the snippet of the chat to be posted here because it shows that the player isn't in a stable state of mind.

    The way you're going on, you could be forgiven for thinking that your identity was about to be stolen.
    I will not let it go when people like yourself keep posting complete rubbish 'i think it was relevant for the snippet of chat top be posted'. Whether you think it was relevant or not is completely irrelevant....The law is quite simple as i have stated here, and it is unequivocal:

    In brief - what does the Data Protection Act say about the 'conditions for processing'?

    What is meant by consent:

    One of the conditions for processing is that the individual has consented to their personal data being collected and used in the manner and for the purposes in question.
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    Spinweb hit the nail dead on the head. Holkapolka started this situation and was not exactly upfront with his posting. The easiest way to stop potential harm to Affiliate Edge was by doing exactly what Martyn did.

    Martyn (as he already explained) gave zero personal information on Holka. Had any personal, identifying information been given out, then there would be a definite breach...but there wasn't.

    Remember, it is Holka who started this nonsense and that's exactly what it is. He was abusive and he's wasted the casino's time, CM's time and now all of our time. Yet Martyn is the bad guy in this? It makes about as much sense as Holka does.

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    The data protection act, protects data collected and making public private confidential data, which was given in a one on one scenario, whether it be a name or address, or a transcript of a conversation is a breach of the data protection act. Whether the player was abusive, is mentally unstable is completely irrelevant it all boils down to one thing, a breach of the data protection act, as the information given was never intended or consented to being posted in a public forum.
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    then I'll no doubt get sued and we all lived happily ever after.

    The end.


    Found this too...

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    Had to translate this one through Google Translate tool, not perfect but you get the idea...

    http://www.webforumet.no/forum/gener...os-casino.html

    I guess there is more posts somewhere from this guy on his one man mission to discredit our casino.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monsterbet View Post
    The data protection act, protects data collected and making public private confidential data, which was given in a one on one scenario, whether it be a name or address, or a transcript of a conversation is a breach of the data protection act. Whether the player was abusive, is mentally unstable is completely irrelevant it all boils down to one thing, a breach of the data protection act, as the information given was never intended or consented to being posted in a public forum.
    I have so much I should be doing but unfortunately I have an additcive persoanlity so had to investigate this and monsterbet you are wrong about the data protection act - Please see the chart here which explains it easily http://www.recordsmanagement.ed.ac.u...onalDataV3.pdf

    As you can see it fails on the first step - What Martyn posted contained absolutely no personal information on the individual and in fact where it did he removed it and changed it to protect the OP.....Can we now drop your line of how he is breaking laws etc. etc. as it is factually incorrect
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    I have so much I should be doing but unfortunately I have an additcive persoanlity so had to investigate this and monsterbet you are wrong about the data protection act - Please see the chart here which explains it easily http://www.recordsmanagement.ed.ac.u...onalDataV3.pdf
    I could refute this all day long but fortunately have bigger fish to fry, the document provided is not the data protection act and refers to what is personal data according to the University of Edinburgh. That is not the point in question.
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    So need to do work.......but......can't resist - Chart was linked from http://www.recordsmanagement.ed.ac.u...Definition.htm which is referencing "The Data Protection Act 1998 which applies only to personal data about a living, identifiable individual."
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    you can have the last word mate....like yourself i'm pretty busy.
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    Probably best this gets closed. If anyone wants to bring anything up with me direct please feel free. Most of you know my email, if not its martyn@affiliateedge.com. Failing that, PM me.

    I am bowing out of this thread while I can. I've addressed the original complaint and some further ones, now I need a lie down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daera View Post
    Holkapolka,


    Why are you still posting here when Martyn asked you to deal with CS? I'm sure there's good reason you were banned at Casinomeisters. Obviously so after seeing the way you speak to customer service. Chances are good that you've brought these delays on yourself by being so rude to support. If I was the one listening to you speak the way you did to them, you would have found it only would cause problems and not get your withdrawal done faster as you would hope. A little courtesy goes a long way. No one has to listen to that sort of talk.

    I agree completely with alexpratt's post.
    So there is no freedom of speach?

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