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    Default Another case of copyright and trademark infringement

    Today I found out about a site that included a complete copy of online.casinocity.com.

    The copy was at meta-casino.com and it was a complete copy with many thousands of pages.

    We looked up the ip address, and from that found the hosting company. The hosting company had a chat service for support. Here is a copy of the transcript I had with them:

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    Nataly: Натали, служба поддержки Gibibits Limited, доброго времени суток!
    Nataly: Чем могу помочь?
    michael corfman: Nataly, do you speak english?
    Nataly: Yes. What can I do for you?
    michael corfman: Your company appears to host the website meta-casino.com. Our company is the owner of a trademark on "Casino City" and also owns the website online.casinocity.com. The website you are hosting includes a complete copy of online.casinocity.com, and thus is in violation of both our trademark and our copyright on the contents of the website.
    michael corfman: Will your company take appropriate action against the company using your services for these illegal activities?
    Nataly: Yes, we will work to resolve this problem. Specify exactly which site is the offender?
    michael corfman: The offending site is meta-casino.com. If you look at that site you will see that it has copied all of the content from online.casinocity.com, which is our site.
    michael corfman: We show that meta-casino.com is hosted at ip address 95.168.185.246 and that ip address is under the control of your company.
    Nataly: Thank you for your message. How can we contact you after solving this problem?
    michael corfman: I can be e-mailed at michael@casinocity.com and can be reached by phone at <phone number edited out of transcript>
    michael corfman: Do you know what your usual time requirement is for resolving this sort of issue?
    Nataly: We will contact you as soon as the problem will be fixed =) And now I will block 95.168.185.246
    Nataly: We will solve the problem as soon as possible. 95.168.185.246 - blocked
    michael corfman: Thank you for your prompt assistance. I have confirmed that the site is no longer accessible.
    Nataly: Thank you for your understanding =)
    I never expected to be able to resolve the situation so rapidly and with so little effort on my part.

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    It's refreshing to see a hosting company react so swiftly! Usually you have to send the DCMA form and wait.
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    That's great, wish they all could be that easy!
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    I commend you for getting it taken care of that quickly, but a few things should have been done before that.

    First, we should have done some whois lookups and saved that info (we can still possibly do this)

    We should have taken a closer look at the code on the site and if in fact the affiliate tags were added in anywhere, we should have tracked them somewhere.

    This would have allowed us to possibly figure out exactly who was behind the theft so we could contact the affiliate programs and had their accounts closed.

    In addition, if the investigation would turn out that the individual was also a member of any of the forums, they should also be named, shamed and banned permanently.

    Blatant copying such as what you describe should be dealt with severly.

    Glad though that the site is now down.

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    I did spend sometime looking around, but they had not included any affiliate links anywhere on the site that I could find. My opinion was that a framework was being constructed with the base content unchanged, but with snippets of code cross-linking to other sites added in unrelated topic areas with the objective of building a presence and being spidered where there would subsequently been links put in to sites to create inbound links for SEO purposes after the content had aged and been indexed.

    The whois information remains available, and is as follows:

    Registration Service Provided By: PRIVACYPR0TECT
    Contact: +1.6079744731

    Domain Name: meta-casino.com

    Expiry Date: 25-Aug-2010
    Days Left for Expiry: 112
    Record Creation Date: 25-Aug-2003
    Domain Status: Active



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    RegistrantContact Details
    Name Leon Schwartz
    Company Demiveo
    Email Address ls@nzpr.com
    Address Ditscheinergasse 80
    City ILGENBERG
    State/Region/Province Steiermark
    Zip 8953
    Country AT
    Tel No. +43.36832214


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    Name Leon Schwartz
    Company Demiveo
    Email Address ls@nzpr.com
    Address Ditscheinergasse 80
    City ILGENBERG
    State/Region/Province Steiermark
    Zip 8953
    Country AT
    Tel No. +43.36832214


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    Name Leon Schwartz
    Company Demiveo
    Email Address ls@nzpr.com
    Address Ditscheinergasse 80
    City ILGENBERG
    State/Region/Province Steiermark
    Zip 8953
    Country AT
    Tel No. +43.36832214


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    Name Leon Schwartz
    Company Demiveo
    Email Address ls@nzpr.com
    Address Ditscheinergasse 80
    City ILGENBERG
    State/Region/Province Steiermark
    Zip 8953
    Country AT
    Tel No. +43.36832214
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    http://www.google.com/#q=site:whois....b85e0c7c5b945c

    looks like regular spammer/scrapper

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    Be nice if you used the same vigor when handing portals your seal of approval. Countless post in this forum about GPWA members approved portals being guilty of the same kind of unethical behavior!

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    Glad that one got solved quickly
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    Quote Originally Posted by morri View Post
    Glad that one got solved quickly
    You dont have a clue what infringement means!

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkyt View Post
    Be nice if you used the same vigor when handing portals your seal of approval. Countless post in this forum about GPWA members approved portals being guilty of the same kind of unethical behavior!
    We do make a real effort, although certainly not perfect, to check for copyright infringement with every seal application, and we frequently have interactions with webmasters behind the scenes to address issues we see during the process.

    Certainly there have been instances of issues being raised regarding webmasters with seals, and I know of one specific instance where a webmaster had his status as a private member revoked even after making some changes because it was deemed that the issues were not being properly addressed even though some changes were being addressed.

    If there is a current instance where a situation is not being properly addressed, then please raise the specific instance so it can be properly addressed.

    And in terms of the specific action taken here, I was reporting the process I went through for a website of my own as a webmaster associated with the site with the objective of sharing that experience with other webmasters from an educational perspective.

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    We do make a real effort, although certainly not perfect, to check for copyright infringement with every seal application, and we frequently have interactions with webmasters behind the scenes to address issues we see during the process.
    I have to backup Michael here because I recently submitted 10 sites for the GPWA seal approval, 9 of them were approved but one was rejected due to duplicate content on some of the blackjack strategy pages. The site is http://www.bigstackblackjack.info which ironically is the only site I have ever bought off someone else and I did not think to check whether it had duplicate content . Needless to say one of my more guys is now sitting going through each page to sort it out.

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    This is great that you received this kind of "immediate" support, but isn't it a little scary, that she blocked the IP address as you were speaking to you ? I mean, what if the shoe was on the other foot, and you hosted there, and this rogue site's webmaster vehemently complained about you being the copier ? Would your site have been disabled that quickly ?

    Maybe an oversimplification of the problem, and perhaps she has had complaints before, and this was a known spammer on their end.

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