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    Ashcroft lost in Federal Court over this attempt to impose his morality over the voters rights. I think this could have some far reaching impact on all his "intimidation" tactics!!

    Court Backs Oregon's Suicide Law

    SAN FRANCISCO, May 26, 2004

    (AP) A federal appeals court ordered the Bush administration not to meddle with a state's assisted suicide law, ruling Wednesday that doctors in Oregon may prescribe lethal doses of medication to terminally ill patients.

    Ruling on the United States' only law that allows doctors to assist in hastening the death of a patient, the court said U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft cannot sanction or hold Oregon doctors criminally liable for prescribing overdoses, as the state's voter-approved Death With Dignity Act allows.

    "The attorney general's unilateral attempt to regulate general medical practices historically entrusted to state lawmakers interferes with the democratic debate about physician assisted suicide," wrote Judge Richard Tallman in the 2-1 opinion by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. He said Ashcroft's action "far exceeds the scope of his authority under federal law."

    The Oregon law, approved by voters in 1994, lets doctors prescribe a lethal dose of narcotics to terminally ill patients who request assistance.

    In 1997, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that states could decide whether to allow assisted suicide.

    The state of Oregon maintained it had the power to declare for itself what types of medical procedures are allowed. But the Justice Department concluded that suicide is not a "legitimate medical purpose."

    Ashcroft had cited the federal Controlled Substances Act when he issued a directive threatening to revoke the licenses of doctors who aid suicides with narcotics. The act declares what drugs doctors may prescribe.

    In a sharp rebuke, U.S. District Judge Robert Jones in Portland, Oregon, ruled in April 2002 that the Controlled Substances Act does not give the federal government the power to say what is a legitimate medical practice.
    For the record, I strongly believe in a person's right to Death with Dignity.

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    Default Re: Ashcroft loses this battle

    Quote Originally Posted by SlyCin56
    For the record, I strongly believe in a person's right to Death with Dignity.
    agreed

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    I don't believe that the federal government should put their
    nose into state law, unless a federal bill is passed by those
    members that we vote into Congress. I know that the attorney
    general likes to try and impose his beliefs on others, and even
    though I share a few of them, I'm against what he tries to do.
    I'm against assisted death in any form, but that is because of
    my own personal beliefs which I do not try to impose on others.
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    There was an article about this in the Bay Area News Roundup in Thursday's online edition of the San Francisco Chronicle. (SF's morning newspaper)

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    I agree too. i always did think that Kavorkian (spelling?) was doing good..... Who the hell wants to live out their last days, suffering miserably?

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    This has just brought back some very gruesome and unpleasant memories about one of my colleagues who was dying of a horrific disease back in the late eighties. What I do admire about him was his upbeat attitude about everything. He has not been with us for a long time, but what a way to go.

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    I've supported it for a long time, but watching my fiery & proud grandmother's brain being destroyed over an extended time by Alzheimer's, I just tell my Mom, she never would've chosen this.

    Her heart stopped in '94 just after she started transitioning, and they revived her and put a pacemaker in, with no choice given to her about it.

    Now she's incapable of communicating in any way at all, other than to jabber. She's incapable of even sitting up in a wheelchair by herself, to feed herself - nothing. And no one knows what's going on with her at anytime. The progress of Alzheimer's is incredibly different from person to person.

    We had to put her and Pops in a nursing home last summer after she finally and permanently forgot how to walk, but I tell the workers in the nursing home stories about her so they know she wasn't like this before. She was fiery, funny, proud, a hotrod in the car, a terror to some, and my best buddy when I was growing up (I'm the first grandchild). In fact, she's the one who introduced me to gambling by taking me to bingo games with her when I was young!

    Since Alzheimer's can be genetic, it's a factor I have to face. I've told my sister if I ever start getting it, I'm committing suicide. She told me "Only if you can remember to do it!".

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    Your grandmother certainly sounds like mine was. Among other things, she played bingo every Tuesday night for years and years. Just like Herb Caen would have said, she was full of chutzpah (nerve). (Cindy, do you remember his columns every morning in the SF Chronicle? If you rode Bart or Muni to work, it seemed as though everyone was reading his column. He loved the word chutzpah) She was a total riot the way she expressed herself. She would never use a curse word, but to disguise the word "Hades" she would always say something like, "What in the 'Sam Hill' is he doing?" My brother and I wondered for years and years who Sam Hill was. She was famous for her stuffed cabbage and apple cake too. Talk about chutzpah, my great aunt (her sister who she didn't like) asked her once for a recipe, and my grandmother gave it to her but purposely omitted one key indredient. She also had Alzheimer's, and had to be put in a nursing home because my family was afraid she was going to burn the house down.

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