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    I am new to being a betting affiliate. I am not new to the marketing surrounding it, having worked on content for these sites on a daily basis for over six years.

    Anyway, I was wondering whether it would be in my best interest to mix and match the tips I offer? So, some tips are 'likely' to pay out. Others, less likely. This way I build up a reputation for offering accurate tips, but I do not go into the 'negative' when tons of people win?

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    If you have the ability to provide winners - then do so.
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    An inaccurate tip would be a fib. You can't build a reputation on lies, unless your followers are Donald Trump supporters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaftDog View Post
    An inaccurate tip would be a fib. You can't build a reputation on lies, unless your followers are Donald Trump supporters.
    Yeah. I figured that it may be a bit unethical. It was more like having tons of accurate tips, but then having just one which may not be completely accurate, but backed up with good evidence. This would be my 'money maker'.

    At the moment, I don't know how the affiliate industry works fully. I have been producing reviews for about 30 different casino affiliates on a regular basis. I know that all of them are making decent cash. However, when I asked about 10 of them whether they wanted positive or negative reviews for the things that they list, they state that there is "no point writing a review if it will be negative". This is even for the casinos that I see tons of negative, although I can normally spin something positive from them. So I didn't really know what the 'done' thing was. Whether telling small white lies would be fine to get ahead in the industry.

    Guess not! Accurate tips all the way.

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    If you had the ability to provide 100% accurate tips (and could prove it) I (and lots of others) would pay you more for them than you could earn doing affiliate stuff.

    The reality is there is no tipster that can do that. The unexpected always come in to play somewhere, no matter how good you are.

    So yes, focus on giving the best you can and you will get stuff wrong naturally.....and let us know if you're getting a 100% or close to 100% record, we'll all want to know about it. You will be a money tree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RGLTD View Post
    However, when I asked about 10 of them whether they wanted positive or negative reviews for the things that they list, they state that there is "no point writing a review if it will be negative".
    I don't agree. There are sites like thepogg.com that write a lot of negative (honest) reviews. I would say this is the main reason why visitors trust the site and come back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by casaffiliate View Post
    I don't agree. There are sites like thepogg.com that write a lot of negative (honest) reviews. I would say this is the main reason why visitors trust the site and come back.
    Absolutely, a site full of 10/10 reviews rouses suspicions imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackTenSuited View Post
    Absolutely, a site full of 10/10 reviews rouses suspicions imo
    Spot on.

    But the thread isn't about giving inaccurate reviews. That was used as just a (bad) example. It's about giving inaccurate tips.

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    I've seen plenty of crap tipsters do quite well on FB/Twitter by gaining a following more for their 'funny vids' and 'banter' etc. So in theory, yeh you could get away with rubbish tips if you have something else to offer as well that keeps people interested.

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    Correct me if I'm wrong but those running tipster sites, tips have one of the worst conversion ratios, aka they are there more for the traffic and user experience, rather than wait for people to sign up from them and play. Comes down to what sort of players you have rather than what kind of tips you gave, why?

    Cause with them early chasouts, live odds, in-play bonuses, it's very easy to get pushed into placing a bet. I rarely play, but a recent example, when Arsenal were down 3-0, i placed a bet on a draw. Doubt any tipping service had that beforehand.

    Bottom line is, you don't have to lie to your visitors, especially if at some point you start paying to get content delivered. I'm following a guy on twitter that exposes fake stat tipsters. There are so many of them and some of them have hundred of thousands of followers. You don't wanna be those guys.

    Bottom line is people would never follow your tips religiously and/or your tips ONLY. They'll win, and they'll lose, it's how it is.

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    If your tips are that good then you wouldn't be running an affiliate website as you would be making millions as a punter surely?

    Be clear with your users, good honest content with personal opinion and a human element will do wonders for both your search ranking and return visitors.

    Good luck anyway.

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    From my experience, always give the best tips you can give. Your followers aren't going to follow all your tips and if they do, they always add their own tips. Here's an example, you give out a 3 team parlay tip that wins but then you check your affiliate account and see you earned money. It's because your followers added their own picks to that parlay or made other bets that. It happens all the time.

    Also, xecutable is right. Tipster sites have a bad conversion rate. It's something like 1 in 80 to 1 in 200 click to signup rate. Over the years, I have learned to use tips only for traffic and not really for converting visitors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattbar View Post
    If your tips are that good then you wouldn't be running an affiliate website as you would be making millions as a punter surely?

    Be clear with your users, good honest content with personal opinion and a human element will do wonders for both your search ranking and return visitors.

    Good luck anyway.
    Of course you can not be honest when you do **** like selling tips.

    Either they are good and you can make much more money betting the picks str8. Or they are pure **** you do not trust and you want your bettors to bet, so they lose and you get the cut.

    It is obvious the tips of OP would be ****, because he is not a winning bettor. So it is only about how big lying ***** you want to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock View Post
    Of course you can not be honest when you do **** like selling tips.

    Either they are good and you can make much more money betting the picks str8. Or they are pure **** you do not trust and you want your bettors to bet, so they lose and you get the cut.
    Not necessarily.

    There are people who are professional gamblers, and there are people who rather choose the profession of being a professional tipster. Either because they function better when their own money isn't involved, or can't handle the stress, prefer the steady income, need the income to actually place a bet, or they're too poor to place a significant bet, or they prefer fame as opposed to being rich in silence.

    Having 100 subscribers for €29 is €2900 per month, every month. Nice. To make that same amount of money on betting with a 105% yield on some 60 games in a month you'd need to stake €58.000 of your own money, or almost €1000 per game. Few people have the means (and balls) to do that.

    To make €2900 a month as a sports betting affiliate you need a TON of players.

    So in that setup I'd choose the subscription money.

    Just saying. To be a pro gambler you got to be a bit crazy in the head. Few people can handle the pressure. And you couldn't possibly be a pro gambler and a pro tipster in one person.

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    I am former professional bettor. I believe I am not crazy in my head. My average turnover was easily over 1M per day, much more during busy days. No bettor makes 5% profit, unless he is beating really weak lines (but those do not exist anymore at relaible bookies)...it is much less.

    If you have an edge, the bankroll rises exponentially, the ones who have an edge rise quickly even when they have a little money. This everything is complete bullshit. Either the bets are good, you make money and you really do not care about pennies like 3K per month, or the tips are ****.

    If anyone has a balls to lie then let he does it. If not than not. But probably people need to lie to themselves, that they bring some "information", or that profitable tipsters, who rather take 3K instead of 300K, exist. But I really do not want to read this bullshit on the few forums that I still read.
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    I just can't get my head straight around these words. "bad tips"and "good tips"
    The word says it all. tips. It doesn't mean it will actually happen.
    And what you can consider good tips can actually mess up the bet-slip.
    IMO even with these tips, its still a gamble, you can't really predict the outcome of all games 100%.
    Good or bad, they are tips, players may win or lose with one or the other.

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    I am a tipster and I can tell you for free that accurate tips will get you thousands of followers and money.

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    There's no point in giving people tips if you're not trying to win them money. Every tipster is trying to pick winners for the same games - if you're not at least moderately successful then no one is going to follow you and they'll go to the next tipster. Unless you're an established brand, giving bad tips is a recipe for disaster and even the biggest brands can fail if they're giving poor tips.

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