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    Quote Originally Posted by OBBCO4U View Post
    What a ridiculous comment and one that you can tell definitely comes from the operators point of view.

    Rightfully so? Seriously? Even with what a lot of operators are doing at the moment and trying to screw affiliates over at every given opportunity?

    Prepayment is a minefield but running an affiliate deal isn't? With the risk of an affiliate deal of putting all the work & time in with the risk of not getting paid. I am pretty sure that I would rather have the 'money in the bank' (even if it is less than I would get on an affiliate deal, long term). I know from now on, if someone wants to be on our sites, they will have to prepay for the privilege.
    Ridiculous? No, it's just an opposing viewpoint. And a pretty normal one at that.

    Sure, i'm looking at it from the operator's side. Because i'm on the operator's side. The same way that you're looking at it from the affiliate's side and ignoring the fact that like operators screwing over affiliates, the opposite can be said. You don't think there are affiliates out there wanting to make a quick buck? You don't think there are pure fraudsters out there looking to convince a green affiliate manager that they should ship them a 10k pre-payment whilst promising them the world? Of course there are.

    I can see the argument form your stand-point. It would be better to get paid up front. Form the operator's viewpoint, it's a mine-field. Unless you're prepaying a trusted partner you've been working with for years, it's a huge risk.

    Anyway, getting dragged into this doesn't help anyone. I know we work together too and, if you are who I think you are, then we've met on multiple occasions, had lunch and had many conversations over the years. We've also worked together for a long time and, outside of any current delays you've always been paid what you're owed. You have me on Skype if there are any issues.

    I'm not looking to argue on message boards. Just wanted to clear up the situation because I was tagged.

    I'm sure you appreciate that it's not an ideal situation for me when accounts issues (which are outside of my remit and outside of my control) cause issues for affiliates but it's not the name of the Head of Accounts being mentioned on the internet, or the name of the Financial Director, it's mine.

    I've always tried to sort out any issue that any member of our affiliate programme has had and i'll continue to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob_BroadwayGaming View Post
    Ridiculous? No, it's just an opposing viewpoint. And a pretty normal one at that.

    Sure, i'm looking at it from the operator's side. Because i'm on the operator's side. The same way that you're looking at it from the affiliate's side and ignoring the fact that like operators screwing over affiliates, the opposite can be said. You don't think there are affiliates out there wanting to make a quick buck? You don't think there are pure fraudsters out there looking to convince a green affiliate manager that they should ship them a 10k pre-payment whilst promising them the world? Of course there are.

    I can see the argument form your stand-point. It would be better to get paid up front. Form the operator's viewpoint, it's a mine-field. Unless you're prepaying a trusted partner you've been working with for years, it's a huge risk.

    Anyway, getting dragged into this doesn't help anyone. I know we work together too and, if you are who I think you are, then we've met on multiple occasions, had lunch and had many conversations over the years. We've also worked together for a long time and, outside of any current delays you've always been paid what you're owed. You have me on Skype if there are any issues.

    I'm not looking to argue on message boards. Just wanted to clear up the situation because I was tagged.

    I'm sure you appreciate that it's not an ideal situation for me when accounts issues (which are outside of my remit and outside of my control) cause issues for affiliates but it's not the name of the Head of Accounts being mentioned on the internet, or the name of the Financial Director, it's mine.

    I've always tried to sort out any issue that any member of our affiliate programme has had and i'll continue to do so.

    There is rogue people out there that want to make a quick buck, I agree but if you look on this forum, is there more people chasing money from operators or people chasing money that people have run off with?

    I don't think you do know who I am although we have crossed paths on Skype before but you have always wanted an affiliate deal which I will not tolerate anymore and haven't done for a while now but we have never had lunch or worked together previously and I have never been owed any money off Broadway Gaming (luckily looking at this post).

    Might be worth clearing your name and giving a contact for the head of accounts or financial director to the people that are owed money then they can chase them. It will save you a lot of hassle in the long run I guess?

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    Btw, we are owed commission for September, October, November (overdue). The question is: when we get all the commission?

    Saying that it will be paid in the future, without specifying the deadline, it is a little unprofessional and discourages cooperation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSB View Post
    Btw, we are owed commission for September, October, November (overdue). The question is: when we get all the commission?

    Saying that it will be paid in the future, without specifying the deadline, it is a little unprofessional and discourages cooperation.
    Feel free to shoot me an email or a Skype

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob_BroadwayGaming View Post
    Feel free to shoot me an email or a Skype
    Already replied to you, but no progress....


    Note, you promised to pay 3 times and failed!



    Any comments?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSB View Post
    Already replied to you, but no progress....


    Note, you promised to pay 3 times and failed!



    Any comments?
    Again, I don't control the accounts so I can only tell you information that's passed to me form my accounts team. But I can try to get this sorted for you asap.

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    @Rob_BroadwayGaming Following our previous Skype conversation, I'm asking now: where's the payment?

    It's getting more and more ridiculous. Is someone in your company responsible for it? If so who is it? And if you have financial problems (referred to above), say it, because the lack of information causes frustration among us - that is, your affiliates. Nobody wants to work for a company that does not pay!

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    If there is 45 days period for paying out, then commission must be paid in 45 days. Yes, it is better than no paying at all, but it is still breach of contract.

    Moreover if anybody has no money to pay his duties, it means his business is no good. On the edge or worse.
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    So, reading through the thread, not a good way to do business and suggests cash flow issues or at the very least a breakdown in the payment process leading to a breach of contract.

    This doesn't come across as particularly reassuring, and any late monies owed are also now subject to an interest charge. If this wasn't resolved ASAP I'd be looking at starting a dunning process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob_BroadwayGaming View Post
    Hi,

    The danger of unverified rumours is that anyone can just throw them around on internet forums with no regard for anyone involved.

    Not a single legitimate affiliate payment has been reneged on and not a single employee has ever not been paid.

    Anyone who has worked with us for a long time knows that it is common that our accounts team can be late making payments. We're not the only ones in the industry with this issue but that's not an excuse.
    So, do you have anything to defend this "gossip"?
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    I thought they were gone lol, Already removed from the network a while back
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    These guys ruined not only their brands but also personal reputation. I can't stand lies and empty promises... I can understand some problems, but you have to be honest about it, and not pretend you do not know what's going on (in your own company!).

    @FreeSpins, agree! They can say it's just a rumor, but the truth seems pretty obvious. They stopped paying affiliates, employees are running away from them, no response to numerous emails, etc. - how to understand it? All who logically think will come to the conclusion - financial crisis...

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    Loads of reminders, Skype conversations, promises, and still nothing...

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    yeah nothing.... I defended them a few posts earlier but i'll not do it anymore... I hoped they'll pay on time but it seems that they didn't...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob_BroadwayGaming View Post
    You'll find it difficult to get money up front from most affiliate managers. And rightfully so in my opinion. Pre-payment is an absolute mine-field!
    It seems paying on time is also a minefield with you guys...

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    I love it when Affiliate managers question flat fees and upfront payment, They really think they are just going to send us all an email and expect is just to list them on rev share these days. Nope, You have all f*cked it.

    Times are changing, Us Affiliates are sick of advertising you all just for you to steal our player bases and shut down owing us thousands. So we actually will only work with programs who pay us upfront to be listed. I don't care if your casino is 20 years old or 1 years old. Your paying. Shortly most affiliates will start doing this.

    Its actually more risky us advertising programs than it is Aff programs paying upfront. I for 1 am sick of it, And i will never ever work on rev share again.

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    And a few others.

    Ow us money.

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    Very interesting, and entertaining, string of messages. Certainly some warning signs for other programs.

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    This is how Rob lies... (he said that they paid 20 February, but I haven't received the money).

    another f*cking rubbish...


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    Rob_BroadwayGaming, where are you? Do you want to give me another payment date (LOL) or maybe say that is a common situation in the industry? (ROTFL)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChRR View Post
    yeah nothing.... I defended them a few posts earlier but i'll not do it anymore... I hoped they'll pay on time but it seems that they didn't...

    Paying late (or not) is one thing, keep on telling lies another one.

    Big red flag. I would avoid this program and any other program this Rob guy will be involved in in the future.
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