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    Bwin removed from Meisters accredited list!

    Apparently Bwin has decided they will no longer discuss player issues with Casinomeister or respond to PAB's. Roguish to the extreme! Screw the players along with the affiliates.... at least they're consistent!

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    Yes i also thought that was insane. Its one thing to rip off and scam affiliates with the Predatory terms and conditions. And also use censorship by closing down facebook. Then refusing to provide those English terms and conditions..

    But to now turn your back on players?? OMG this is incredibly shaddy and I am really concerned for players now. They are refusing to discuss any player issues and that was the last thing on Earth I ever thought BWIN would resort to.

    I am just so shocked how the the company executives can allow their whole operation to turn evil like this against everyone!!

    Against affiliates
    Against Sponsors
    Against Players
    Against Forums

    What is next?? I wonder if they will avoid and cut their relationships with ECOGRA too now?

    We may see them removed from CAP and events if its decided from the group of forums and that has to be considered really negative for them.

    Are they going to communicate with anyone anymore?

    This to me is totally Unethical and like Terry said roguish to the extreme.

    I think anyone must be so careful to work with Bwin now! It is just not safe anymore!!!

    WOW i cant believe it!! Will not discuss player issues??

    I really wonder what PartyGaming will say about this? If anything?

    Or will PartyGaming roll over and allow their name to be considered Rogue and predatory as well.

    This is HUGE


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    Thanks for the update Terry, this is a big deal. Why would a brand that big be so flipant with their customers.

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    I am really shocked by bewinners actions. I hope they soon understand the seriousness of the situation they are creating.
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    I think anyone must be so careful to work with Bwin now! It is just not safe anymore!!!

    WOW i cant believe it!! Will not discuss player issues??

    I really wonder what PartyGaming will say about this? If anything?

    Or will PartyGaming roll over and allow their name to be considered Rogue and predatory as well.

    This is HUGE
    Do not forget AFFClub with all those playtechs too there are in it with Partygaming.

    But on the other hand if Bwin will later be associated with partygaming they will get a negative rating also which is bad for getting a gaming license in the future.
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    I appreciate meisters decision on this on behalf of players and affiliates.

    I don't think bewinners care though. Not one iota.

    I hope they come around. When the mighty fall, it's terrible to watch.

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    Anything Party touch is questionable to me. Absolutely completely unsurprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeyl View Post
    Anything Party touch is questionable to me. Absolutely completely unsurprised.
    Yeah I wonder how the feel about Bwin being predatory and now refusing to discuss player complaints or issues.

    I know as soon as the merger happens they will be on the Belosers site the second it happens.


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    I was under the impression they have merged and this is the result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeyl View Post
    I was under the impression they have merged and this is the result.
    Both affiliate departments claim that despite the merger being official, they have not been given a clear explanation as to what the merger really means for affiliates and for players. We asked a while back out of pure interest and curiosity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamblingbutler View Post
    Both affiliate departments claim that despite the merger being official, they have not been given a clear explanation as to what the merger really means for affiliates and for players. We asked a while back out of pure interest and curiosity.
    You can bet it wont be good for us

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    I thought the merger between Party and BWIN was agreed but would not be official until the middle of next January.

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    FWIW as soon as the Merger takes place - Party will be considered a
    " BELOSER" and active link campaigns will be worked on to attack keywords associated with Party gaming as a predatory program.

    As time goes on many "Belosers" will be listed.


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    Maybe once the merger becomes official Party will place some pressure on Bwin to clean up their act. I'd hate to become partners with such a big name in the business just to fall with them. I hope things improve for affiliates and players soon. Maybe they are just disorganized or in the midst of some major changes with it's employees. Either way there really is not excuse for this mess from such a well-known and from what I know, once respected brand.

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    I've been experiencing the same problems myself. I sent them many emails over several weeks and they have yet to respond.

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    It appears Bwin wears the pants in the relationship to date. We will have to see how things turn out when it fully happens. I am certainly looking forward to a much larger boycott and exclusion of Bwin in the near future to events and from affiliate forums.

    Personally i feel we should cut them off like have done to us. Were not important anymore to them so why should we show them any forum of attention except to educate everyone on the predatory nature they follow.


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