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    Cool Casino City Launches Directory of Payment Methods

    Normally we reserve use of this forum for GPWA announcements. However, I think the new Casino City directory of payment methods will be of interest to many GPWA members.

    Tomorrow we are going to formally announce (via a press release) the addition of a directory of 142 online gambling payment methods to our popular Online.CasinoCity.com website. For those of you unfamiliar with the site, it provides comprehensive profiles and popularity rankings of 2,100 online gambling sites plus the latest news and information on where gambling enthusiasts can play online.

    The new directory describes each payment method available at online gambling sites and ranks them in popularity order based on the amount of web traffic received by the gaming sites that use the method. The list is automatically personalized for each visitor, showing only the payment methods used by sites accepting play from the visitor’s geographic location and available in the visitor’s language. Visitors may change their location and language preferences at any time. They can also order the list of payment methods by number of sites accepting the payment method or alphabetically by payment method name.

    When visitors click on a payment method in the directory, they are given some background information on the payment method and also a list of all online gambling sites using that method, ranked by popularity and personalized for the visitor’s location and language preferences.

    What are the most popular payment methods around the world? Accepted by 2,000 sites, VISA and MasterCard top the list, followed by bank wire transfer and Neteller. Other methods such as Moneybookers, VISA Electron, Diners Club, Solo, Maestro, and playsafecard round out the top ten. For complete information, visit the directory at online.casinocity.com/payment-methods/.

    I'd welcome feedback from GPWA members about how we might make the directory even better. And if you see any mistakes that should be corrected, please let us know so we can fix them. It is impossible to be 100% accurate with a project like this.

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    An interesting and worthwhile addition to the site Michael. I tried a few searches out and everything seemed to work fine, no problems that I can see.

    A useful resource for affiliates as well as players.

    I'm just amazed at how many payment processors there are!!

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    Nice job!!! One thing I see that might need correction is that on the epassporte page it shows that Slotsvillage accepts epassporte but Slotsvillage.com doesn't show epassporte as a payment option.

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    Doolally your are right, I was looking for a payment method, thanks Michael.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy View Post
    Nice job!!! One thing I see that might need correction is that on the epassporte page it shows that Slotsvillage accepts epassporte but Slotsvillage.com doesn't show epassporte as a payment option.
    Thanks BigDaddy. We contacted Slotsvillage the morning and confirmed that epassporte should not be listed as an option for them, and we've corrected the information in our database.

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    Nice work here. I actually think this is a pretty useful feature . Must have taken forever and a day to compile this list.
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    This is a great feature - why don't you set up affiliate links with the payment providers and refer players to the payment providers?
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    thanks

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    Great work, thanks a lot, Michael!

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    Good Work Michel,
    But this list is not complete list

    Thanks, I

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    Quote Originally Posted by tboaffpr View Post
    Good Work Michel,
    But this list is not complete list

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    Thanks for the feedback Tboafdpr. If you let us know what is missing Michael and I will make sure it is followed up on and updated. We'd appreciate the details.


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    This is a great feature - why don't you set up affiliate links with the payment providers and refer players to the payment providers?
    Good suggestion Chris. This is something we're looking into.
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    Hi Michael,

    This latest information offered by Casino City is a boon to webmasters.

    I checked it out and will be going back to do research - but noticed that you don't list fon2fon.

    This is a method that I was surprised to see on Golden Casino when doing updates - the URL is xxxfon2fon.net and it works for US players.

    Upon doing a Google search, I found German, Spanish, Japanese, and Danish sites mentioning this method apart from Golden - and only 4 pages of search - so it appears it is new.

    According to the casino, it works for withdraw as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ntaus View Post
    Hi Michael,

    This latest information offered by Casino City is a boon to webmasters.

    I checked it out and will be going back to do research - but noticed that you don't list fon2fon.

    This is a method that I was surprised to see on Golden Casino when doing updates - the URL is xxxfon2fon.net and it works for US players.

    Upon doing a Google search, I found German, Spanish, Japanese, and Danish sites mentioning this method apart from Golden - and only 4 pages of search - so it appears it is new.

    According to the casino, it works for withdraw as well.

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    Fantastic job. I will have a deep look at it. I believe there isn't any place to find such a comprehensive payment method list. Thanks casinocity.

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    Michael: I too am surprised at the number of options.
    We have an online gaming guide at site, GamblingTeachers.
    I would like to add this link as a resource with your permission.
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    One thing you may like to peruse is the geo preferences for casino city in relationship to this new section.

    All payment option said they are available to Australians, I can assure you this is not the case.



    Cheers



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    Hi all,

    all due respect... and i mean that. I cannot help but worry this makes it easier for our opposition to shut down such payment methods.

    I have long contemplated whether to make such info available but decided on making a statement "please contact casino support for your best deposit methods available".

    I don't hesitate to say CC probably knows more than I in these matters. But that is why i have never listed such methods as I was afraid it made it too easy for the opposition to shut down such payment methods.

    I hope I am wrong about this. But I cannot help but point out this all-important angle.

    I hope I have not offended anyone. It was asked for feedback .... and that is mine.

    I hope it proves not to be a problem as I too... would prefer to list deposit methods for my readers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gayle View Post
    Michael: I too am surprised at the number of options.
    We have an online gaming guide at site, GamblingTeachers.
    I would like to add this link as a resource with your permission.
    We're always happy to have people link to our site!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bb1web View Post
    Hi all,

    all due respect... and i mean that. I cannot help but worry this makes it easier for our opposition to shut down such payment methods.

    I have long contemplated whether to make such info available but decided on making a statement "please contact casino support for your best deposit methods available".

    I don't hesitate to say CC probably knows more than I in these matters. But that is why i have never listed such methods as I was afraid it made it too easy for the opposition to shut down such payment methods.

    I hope I am wrong about this. But I cannot help but point out this all-important angle.

    I hope I have not offended anyone. It was asked for feedback .... and that is mine.

    I hope it proves not to be a problem as I too... would prefer to list deposit methods for my readers.
    Well, there are multiple parts to this question.

    First, on individual gaming site pages we list payment methods available at the site. I have not felt that aspect adds much value from an anti-gambling enforecement perspective since you can generally just click on the link to the gaming site, and in just about every case the payment methods are easy to find on a site.

    The second question has to do with ordering payment methods to see which ones are common, with the fear that this might be used to select payment methods to target. But again, I don't think this helps much. The top payment methods are all pretty much targeted already, although not directly. If an agency decides from our list that the biggest bang for the buck is with VISA or MasterCard - guess what - although they are possible payment methods they don't work very often anyway in the states. All the top targets cannot be targeted effectively or they are already being targeted anyway.

    Then there are the middle payment methods, but there are so many of them that it is hard for anyone in enforcement to go after them based on the payment method. They have to be gone after by looking at the actual payment stream when making a deposit or withdrawal, and most payment methods that are robust have several of these, so even tracking down one doesn't solve the problem. And most of the middle ones could be found by an enforecement agency in a day or two anyway. Just take a list of sites like those on Casino City, visit 100 of them, and take a couple minutes on each site to compile the payment methods accepted. The list might not be as accurate or as detailed as ours, but from an enforcement perspective, every single one of the majors would be there after spending a couple days doing this.

    And then there are the bottom payment methods - methods that are really associated with a single company. For those folks we made a decision (after receiving a request) to keep them off the list. We still show them in the count, but don't list them in search results.

    Who I believe our information helps is players. If a player has a particular type of account set up, then they can find out where they can use it. Or they might find a payment method they can establish on an overseas trip, and fund it and then use it after they return back home. A player won't spend the time to compile a list of major payment methods. An enforcement agency would if they were trying to target them. Actually, I think our list might discourage them by helping them to realize upfront how hard the task would be.

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