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    Thanks for your feedback Slycin56. I have forwarded your comments and concerns with regards to All Poker Casino. Will keep you posted on its development. Just a funny FYI: we received comments from webmasters regarding the "ugly dog" on the site, which I find pretty cheesy as well, so now that picture has been moved.

    In response to the topic concerning disappearance of Silver City -- the objective for doing so was really to optimize business efficiency. Casino Coins has the best infrastructure in place -- with a full team in each creative, customer support and backend department; so moving affiliates from Silver City to Casino Coins means better program management and more centralized attention paid to the affiliates.

    As you can see, Casino Coins has been adding some very attractive casinos in the past few months. SuperSlots and Millionaire Casino have been promoted heavily through Casino Coins. They are now much more successful than before.

    And of course, having all these casinos under one affiliate program can only mean MORE accumulated commissions! I think you will find many more benefits now than before.

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    The t&c would not have been altered if CC did not intend to have that weapon at their dispoal to rip of affiliates.

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    Agreed, Fiction. Additionally, the professional way to phase out a program is to let everyone know in advance. We found out through a dead link.

    How professional is that? What does that say about Casino Coins?

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    This is the kind of crap that proves my point. Where did you go??? The questions get tough and *poof* gone.

    I'm sorry, but the industry is in trouble and Casino Coins is not used to poor profits. Just like every other company in this market, earnings are down. Hell, with the credit card rejections online gaming is REALLY hurting.

    We all know this. Our profits are down. If our profits are down, your profits are down. Why would anyone hide it? Hell, there are 6 posts about crappy stats that are active right now in the private forums. Is this a coincidence?

    No way.

    Just come clean. Tell us that you lost your player base on the software change. Tell us you are not making that much money. We will be on your side. These endless lies from casinos and casino programs are just trash.

    It is hilarious. Almost every single day I get an email from some amazing new casino portal that has 12 million opt in subscribers to their site. The site has a terrible url and I have never heard of it before, yet they claim to have TONS of players, reserved especially for me.

    Does this sound fishy? Of course. They have crappy email spidering software and just want money for a mailer.

    The correlation? Everyone claims to have more players and more hits than anyone else.

    I don't want to be known as the pessimistic DONGAMBLER of the GPWA, but this is stupid. No one is making really good money with your program. How can this be if your affiliate program is taking off?

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    Lol, you sure don't beat around the bush.

    I think you hit the nail on the head.

    I think the casinos need to team uo with some offshore banks and offer offshore credit cards. There are a ton out there. Other than the eastern European/western "Russian" countries they have great reputations.

    Instead of beating up and stealing from affiliates they need to get creative and arrange for pure internet financing from offshore banks. It will be easy and profitable for all.

    They can accept payments and make payments from these banks and their cards. They don't need to find out every personal detail about players, which turns many away. They just need a banknumber and name and the creditcard number. All will be happy, Signup quick, easy and private.

    These guys need to get off their collective duffs and fix the situation. Conversion wiill be a lot better.

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    I have to agree with several of the points above.

    We do need safe and reliable transaction options for the players or all the traffic and advertising in the world wont make a bit of difference. The casinos recognize this but have been very slow about responding to the situation. Instead, I have seen affiliate managers complain that the traffic we send them is now suddenly worthless. Prior to April the players we sent were good, but since that time we suddenly lowered the quality of OUR visitors and the poor conversions is the affiliates fault! The time to act is NOW! As the properties drag their feet we see affiliates losing thousands of dollars in lost revenues and wasted efforts. Casino Operators help us to help you, let our players pay...

    Point two, we KNOW business is down. I have heard three operators say "we are having great months overall, the losses are among a few affiliates only, we dont know why YOUR stats are way down, everyone else is doing good, etc..." This is an insult to our intelligence, we do keep in touch with each other and do know that revenues are very low since April, it would be much better to be honest and upfront on where we really are as an industry. Denial makes me more nervous then the truth. Denial means you haven't even acknowledged a problem and are therefore not working on a solution. If that is truly the case and the programs are in Denial then we really ARE in serious trouble.

    My two wooden cents

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    Hear, Hear!

    Our all motto, affiliates and programs and casinos, should be:


    Let our players pay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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    Sorry for the late reply. I went back to our communications team and they confirmed that an e-mail announcement was sent out to affiliates re: the shut down of Silver City. I'm very sorry to hear that you didn't receive this e-mail.

    Regarding payment. As mentioned earlier, the casinos are trying hard to solve the issue and they took prompt action by introducing their new "Express Payouts" options -- which include PayPal, NETeller, Wire Transfer, FirePay, Citadel and pre-paid ATM.

    Obviously after the Citybank episode, transactions through PayPal went up significantly. So it's worth promoting this alternative payment option for sure.

    The Casino Coins team also created marketing tools that specifically emphasize alternative payment options (e.g. banners, html mailers). If you would like us to resend them to you, please e-mail support@casinocoins.com

    It's true that everyone is getting a hit due to the credit card purchase complications recently. We'd appreciate any feedback on the alternative payment options currently offered by the casinos.

    Even though June/July could be slower months in general, we found that with certain type of promos, results could still be pretty positive. For example, we experienced a good peak of new customers from last week's Casino birthday bash promo. We will encourage the casinos to run these more often for sure.

    Will keep you guys posted.
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    For the moment I am aggressively pormoting paypal, but this will not last.

    It has been purchased by ebay and will stop making casino payments by the end of the year.

    We need creditcards people can use as they see fit.

    The only credit cards available are the offshore cards.

    We need to forge a business relationships with these banks and provide our players with the credit cards they want to use. It can be done if somebody starts moving on it.

    We are losing precious time promoting payment methods despite already knowing they will be defunct shortly.

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