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    I have an idea that may help with spam on the legitimate boards. Create a thread/section that will allow any type of spam/link sales and NO Follow/No index it so it does not hit the Serps.

    Allow all the garbage to be posted in there. Anything from promotions spam to link spam and various other crap. It is obvious well never be able to control the current system since people are continuing the spam and link sales spam daily.

    Any posts that are scene as spam or link spam and not following the rules can me moved to this thread. No need to delete posts and that sort of thing.

    Rather allow link spam but in a section that will not be serped by google and will not be crawled.

    This way anyone coming for this purpose can spam away at will no problem as long as there is no porn, no swearing and that sort of thing.... ect..

    Just simply allow garbage in there and moderate it as required for abuse. ALl links must be gambling related and what not. All promotions as well on this topic.

    If these people want siggy links fine they can keep the siggy link in the spam section as most of them come and spam for a week and are gone.

    I know this is allowing spam - but it will control the rest of the boards and it will detract people from posting in legitimate areas.

    As it is now they know its not allowed but since they want the link they will take the risk - with this section I suggest they will be more inclined to accept this spam link and not really check if its a do follow or indexed section.

    IS this possible? I would be willing to moderate it if needed!

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    Good idea for spam management.

    I look forward to the answer.
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    I know the spam is anoying and some days it seems out of hand...but I do not agree with this method of control.

    First, much of the spam comes from people who do NOT follow the rules and post in the wrong threads and hijack others threads.

    Defining a new section for them to post in will not change those that (see above) do NOT follow the rules and hijack others threads...they still won't follow the rules....

    I actually deleted a few dozen posts the last hour (I lost track of how many) and did one temporary ban today.

    Maybe Anthony and I need to hand out the suspensions a little quicker.....

    ..or maybe even have them spend more time with Terry....lol

    What I noticed with many of the threads that I worked on in the seo section today we were not as strong against the hijacking as we likely should be so I will try to watch that a little closer.

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    Thanks for banning the member today. He was out of control and virtually every post he has ever made here is a link exchange request of some kind.

    Instead of giving the spammers a new section to spam in, why not make the ability to post links harder to achieve. Maybe 30 posts or 50 posts before having the privilege to add a live link or signature link will deter the bulk of them.

    They don't read (or follow) the new rules that were recently implemented so more drastic action is in order...

    AGD has recently implemented a "no link exchange" policy. I love that idea!
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    I have always been against a (no exchange) policy....

    I was originally against raising the criteria too high for the newbies because this also restricts those who come here and want to add to our community as well.

    This makes it more difficult for them to add a link to a post that is discussing a news article, a site review, another site they are having trouble with, etc... etc...

    I don't recall what we have the threshold set at now, Anthony can you confirm what that number currently is?

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    At this time, there doesn't appear to be any threshold since I see first time posters adding links to posts and to their siggy's.

    If we set the threshold to X number of posts by default, the restriction can be lifted on a case by case basis once the member has proven he/she is not here for the sole purpose of link spamming.

    Plus, folks can still add a link for discussion by going this route... xxsomeimportantdomain.com which should get past the filters. At least then there will not be any link juice being passed to the sspammer's sites. Which will deter many spammers from bothering to post in the first place....

    To clarify, AGD does allow real members who have a significant post count to advertise link exchanges. The forum looks much cleaner, IMO.

    And last, I browse the forum via the "new posts" link in the FORUMS drop down menu most of the time so when we get hammered with spammers, there are often as many as 50-60% spam posts that I have to wade through to find the threads I'm actually interested in, especially in the morning. As you know, I get pretty frustrated some days as a result...
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    Terry reading link spam = Frustration......

    Say it isn't so.....



    I thought we implimented a rule of 5.....but 10 seems like it's more in order....but I would be against anything above that.

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    The problem with it being so low is they will make silly one liner posts.

    "Hey i am new hear"
    "Thanks for nice words"
    "Great post"

    And after 10 inject more spam!! Its to easy. BUt i guess they can do this anyways with a spam section - but i have scene forums do this and it can work if done right.

    Rick I do think the current controls are great and work to some extent - but certainly either more moderation is needed or something added on.

    Either increase post counts or get more moderators. I have offered my free services for this many many times!

    Allow members certain privileges to help stop spam.

    If none of the above work for you - please suggest something


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    It is every member's duty to read the rules in full.

    I would suggest immediate ban.
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    You see guys we have built the largest Gambling Affiliate community available in the Gambling World WITHOUT having to be so restrictive....

    Is it a bit of a pain to the mods, yes....but giving members a little bit of freedom to promote their sites and get exchanges is all part of that and has been since the early days of the GPWA.

    The system we have in place now actually does work, and we do at times have a short run of newbies increasing the mod workload, but we usually do get caught back up pretty quick....and as others have mentioned, we have less spam here than many other boards.....

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    The forum software is currently set to disallow links, images, and email addresses for public members with fewer than 5 posts. Public members with 5 or fewer posts are also not able to send private messages.

    There was no minimum set on display of signature links. This was based on my not seeing that the mod we have installed for the posting restrictions can be applied to signatures as well (it is non-untuitively buried under a "viewing links" section rather than "posting links"). I'd edited that so signatures do not display for public members with fewer than 5 posts.

    I'll bring up the suggestion of increasing the minimum to 10.
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    Thanks Steven good start!!

    I will once again offer my services free of charge to help moderate spam.

    If you guys ever want to help the issue more I will help out as i have suggested countless times.


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    I am just curious!! Not that its really important but just curious.

    Since the post count was increased to 5 to see or input siggy links in the forum what does this mean to Google?

    When looking at the forum as a guest it has these words!!

    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

    Does this mean Google also cant see or crawl them?For everyone?

    I as thinking along the lines where links can be attached to all account holders over 10 at least in the siggy and can be seen by google

    But just new members with less then 10 post count can create their own?

    Any idea?


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    Steven,

    Just a heads up - looking at this thread, I see a public member with just 3 total posts is able to add a live link....

    https://www.gpwa.org/forum/1000-sear...tml#post622526

    The filters are obviously not working as they should.
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    Google sees the links

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    thanks Rick was just curious!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    I have always been against a (no exchange) policy....

    I was originally against raising the criteria too high for the newbies because this also restricts those who come here and want to add to our community as well.

    This makes it more difficult for them to add a link to a post that is discussing a news article, a site review, another site they are having trouble with, etc... etc...

    I don't recall what we have the threshold set at now, Anthony can you confirm what that number currently is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CityGuard View Post
    There was no minimum set on display of signature links. This was based on my not seeing that the mod we have installed for the posting restrictions can be applied to signatures as well (it is non-untuitively buried under a "viewing links" section rather than "posting links"). I'd edited that so signatures do not display for public members with fewer than 5 posts.
    This went horribly wrong. The setting I changed was to "Hide links/images in signatures if user post count is less than X". I'd believed this meant that new users would need at least X posts for their signatures to appear. What it actually meant was that members need at least X posts in order for them to see other people's signatures. I will look for a way to accomplish the intended goal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CityGuard View Post
    The forum software is currently set to disallow links, images, and email addresses for public members with fewer than 5 posts. Public members with 5 or fewer posts are also not able to send private messages.

    ...I'll bring up the suggestion of increasing the minimum to 10.
    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    I thought we implimented a rule of 5.....but 10 seems like it's more in order....but I would be against anything above that.
    Quote Originally Posted by GFPC View Post
    Either increase post counts or get more moderators.
    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony View Post
    I would like to move it to 10.

    I've now adjusted the minimum post count so that public members must have at least 10 posts in order to post images, links, or email addresses, or in order to send private messages.
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