Dmoz Fraud and Gaming The System

[Webzcas]

Nice of you Dave to analyse my backlink structure, I shouldn't have to explain this to a self proclaimed seo but here goes anyhow.

I exchange links with sites, always have done. Several of my link partners have listings in DMOZ, but guess what? They were already linking to me way before I became an editor and more importantly were already listed in DMOZ.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but because I actually get off my backside and do attend the odd conference, I find that networking is probably the greatest asset a webmaster can have. But you should know that right?

It is laughable that you are calling my integrity into account, when you have no idea what you are talking about. Also the saying ' Those in glass houses should not cast stones ' or words to that affect come to mind.

So let's look at some of the backlinks OCR has.

Online.casinocity.com - Been in place for a number of years now. CasinoCity has been in the directory longer than I have been a webmaster.

Casinomeister - Bryan is a very good friend and that link was obtained way back in 2005. Oh and sorry to burst your bubble, but I did not list Casinomeister.
GamesandCasino.com - Been a backlink partner for years. Are you seriously saying G & C doesn't warrant a listing in DMOZ.

Seriously Dave, Brian and anyone else who is of the view there is some great conspiracy being carried out by myself. Get a grip, get a life, concentrate on your own sites and stop being so self pitying. Your negativity and collective chips on your shoulders are the sole reasons you are obviously not successful in this industry.

I presume this is the case.

If not, surely you would be in a position to attend conferences and more importantly dedicate your time to your sites.

Oh and one last thing. I think everyone here knows my opinion of the Virtual Casino Group?

Well if I was this nasty, bent, corrupt editor, why the hell would I have personally listed
Virtual Casino in the directory?

Get another bone to gnaw on boys. Your broken record is tired, repetitive and boring.

I have too much work to do, to continue to entertain your paranoid delusions any longer.

[Prenut]

What a waste of a thread. Lot of haterade being chugged here, and this is one of those things that just shouldn't be posted publicly. Use the PM feature, and stop thinking you are the gambling search engine police.

[brean78]

Ok, I know I am gonna get slammed for this, but the suggestion of a Webcaz Alliance had me RAOFLMA.

[Webzcas]

HAHAHAHAHA

That is quality Brean. Careful though, Betastic is listed in DMOZ. You are one of the spokes and don't even realise it.

From now on I am going to refer to Aussie Dave and Arkyt as Humpty and Dumpty if I am unfortunate enough to have to address them in a forum again.

Be careful though, as they have their own version of the sword of truth and justice.

It is called the 'Mighty Sword of Dober'

Numpties the pair of them.

[brean78]

Well I have no bad feelings for Aussie Dave or Arkyt and they are entitled to their opinions. My doodle was more poking fun as the assumed alliance that has formed. Lets hope we can all have a laugh at ourselves every now and then and get back to the task of making a living

[Webzcas]

Oh I have no bad feelings about them either Brean. But I do think they are a pair of small minded numpties, with massive chips on their collective shoulders. Whose value to the industry is just hot air and pretty much that is about it.

[PremTips]

Agreed! This is a damn shame why can't everyone just be friendly and get along with one another I don't understand the purpose if calling out and attacking our peers.

AGD is very grateful for the use of Dave's hosting service there is no hidden agenda for the link exchange also I really do not think it is anyones business who each webmaster decides to trade links with, why would anyone think that is their concern I don't know.

Fight, Fight, Fight!

[Former Member 14]

Casinomeister - Bryan is a very good friend and that link was obtained way back in 2005.

Ummm which link are you referring to?

casinomeister.com - xxxhttp://www.dmoz.org/Games/Gambling/Guides/

casinomeister.com/forums - xxxhttp://www.dmoz.org/Games/Gambling/Chats_and_Forums/

It seems bizarre you've forgotten what played out over at AGD regarding the dmoz fraud thread. http://www.affiliateguarddog.com/for...aud-t2707.html

http://www.affiliateguarddog.com/for...html#post23175

You can hardly claim credit for sticking to the rules by removing your forum from the directory when all the time the root domain has been listed there as well in another category, because only one of them should have been there in the first place.

Does that ring a bell webzcas? It should, you certainly back peddled damn fast.

Your fully aware two dmoz listing for one domain (unless there are some exceptional circumstances) is a BIG no no. Certainly the 1 link rule applied to your site onlinecasinoreviewer.com because you removed your 2'nd listing, that of your forum.

Though it yet another feat that points to gaming the dmoz system, you purchase a site and list it in dmoz within a matter of weeks, even though it was below average. Defininately no favouritism there

casinomeister.com has two listing for one domain - being the editor and close friend I dare say you've know this all along - because someone edited the description of one of the links recently to beef up its SEO suitability.

Regardless...Now you know about the double listing for casinomeister.com you'll take appropriate action and drop one of the links, hey


Cheers



Dave

[Webzcas]

Though it yet another feat that points to gaming the dmoz system, you purchase a site and list it in dmoz within a matter of weeks, even though it was below average.

Incorrect I purchased a domain which had NO site or content. It now has in excess of 1000 pages and I dare say is better content wise than any of the adcopy crap you have ever bothered to put together. Furthermore the content is of such a standard it is obvious a lot of work has gone into it.

Indeed I would allege it is better content wise than any work you have done in your ten years + in the industry.

because someone edited the description of one of the links recently to beef up its SEO suitability.

Yep and it was not me Humpty. Don't believe me, ask Michael as he can verify the logs.

Regardless...Now you know about the double listing for casinomeister.com you'll take appropriate action and drop one of the links, hey

Ah this is what it comes down to. You have a hard-on for Bryan. Well isn't that nice!

Sorry to yet again prove you to be a fool, although really it is not hard, you do an admirable job on your own Humpty.

There is no ruling against a single site having multiple listings in the directory if warranted. Don't believe me, then have a gander how many the bbc.co.uk has for instance.


What is more Humpty, again I cannot take credit for listing Bryan's forum, nor indeed OCR's forum when it was listed in Chats and Forums. My forum was listed before I was an editor and I believe those up high sanctioned the listing of Bryan's forum. Although I did rightly delist OCR's forum when I closed it several weeks ago.

Besides Humpty, can you think of a more deserving forum that should be listed in that category than Casinomeister??

Humpty or should I call you Joel, you and your sidekick are judging others by your own pathetic standards. Here is some serious advice to you and take it how you wish. Concentrate on working on your sites, instead of making up laughable conspiracy theories and devoting all your energy into some kind of moral crusade which is extremely off the mark.

Otherwise, no doubt you are going to be on these forums again in 6 months crying for another handout.

[acropolis9t]

Dear Dave,

Here are a few tips I think you need…

1. Focus on your own sites and not picking hole in the strategy of others. It looks lame and doesn’t win the hearts and minds.
2. If you want to post your heart out, why not go to a search forum and post there? At least you’ll get feedback relevant to your cause and not antagonise others.
3. Be constructive in your posts. Think to yourself before you post; is this going to help others and strengthen the GPWA community or just antagonise them? Your Churchill quote on your signature says it all.
4. If you can’t beat them join them. Be friends with people on here. Hell, you may even get a relationship with some of them and get some free links!

If you spent less time procrastinating and picking holes in other peoples strategy (good or bad) and more time focussing on your own sites, you may feel less bitter and… make some money! In the time it has taken you to write these pointless hole picking posts and design charts (that are incorrect BTW) you could have created some informative content for your sites or got yourself some more links instead of the few you’ve got already. Plus, make sure rawfunkgames.net.au is actually a working site and not 404ing - it’s down right now.

rawfunkgames*com Root 35 Linking
rawfunkgames*net*au Root 69 Linking
casinogamblingonline*com*au Root 33 Linking
australian-onlinecasinos*com Root 7 Linking
rawfunkgames.com*au Root 8 Linking

For your information I do have a site listed on DMOZ so there!

Now if you excuse me I have work to do.

Word to the mother,

Adam

[ck8795]

There is no ruling against a single site having multiple listings in the directory if warranted. Don't believe me, then have a gander how many the bbc.co.uk has for instance.

Re this - Dave another example - pagat.com has 43 listings.

http://www.dmoz.org/search?q=pagat.com

Is that wrong or unfair? No because he deserves every listing he has. Some sites are that good that when you add them you are encouraged to list even though they have a second, third or 4th listing because the site is considered a quality resource.

As for your reply to my post - no I didn't miss the point. I know what your getting at but at the end of the day there is more to worry about. Whether a site has a dmoz link wheel or no listing at all does not make that big of an impact imo.

[Former Member 14]

@webzcas

You claim your professional but are acting like a child - instead of calmly stating your side, your slinging out with personal attacks and personal insults.

If I've learnt anything in my 49 years (26 years of those being self employed), people who get bent out of shape by reverting to personal attacks are those where the truth is too close to home.

I suggest you go take a break, calm down and return when you can address the issues I've raised void of attacking me with personal insults.


Cheers



Dave

[Webzcas]

Are you not working today AussieJoel?

If you must salivate over this thread. The least you could do is actually comprehend what has been written in it and take on board the words on the screen being offered in front of you.

As for my getting bent out of shape?

No not true. I think you are a class A numpty, yes. Who is seeing smoke and mirrors everywhere you turn. I also believe you have shown yourself up to be a complete an utter fool. But me being bent out of shape, most certainly not.

You see Humpty, or should I call you AussieJoel, I am open and have been nothing but transparent about my actions as an editor. What would you prefer me to do, let you slander me across all the forums, without actually addressing the invalid and incorrect points you have made?

Not going to happen I am afraid. If you spout crap, expect to be called on it and to be shown for the utter fool and idiot you are Joel.

[DaftDog]

Are you not working today AussieJoel?

I'm trying not to take sides on this issue, however I do find this issue very interesting. Lets not resort to childish name calling as it does nobody any justice.

[Former Member 14]

rawfunkgames.net.au is actually a working site and not 404ing - it’s down right now.

Thanks for the heads up but the site is fine.
Your obviously accessing it from a banned country within my mod_geoip Apache mod.

Besides I don't understand you reason for the derail. Judging my success and income based on the number of LB's to my sites, it's irrelevant.

Maybe less of this and more of, well whatever it is you do when your not will make you realise how stupid your statements really are.

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Dave

[Webzcas]

I'm trying not to take sides on this issue, however I do find this issue very interesting. Lets not resort to childish name calling as it does nobody any justice.

Well his real name is Joel and he is an Aussie.

Sorry, but the guy is an idiot, fool etc

I would address him like an adult, but he does not deserve the respect or the time.

[Former Member 14]

Are you not working today AussieJoel?

If you must salivate over this thread. The least you could do is actually comprehend what has been written in it and take on board the words on the screen being offered in front of you.

As for my getting bent out of shape?

No not true. I think you are a class A numpty, yes. Who is seeing smoke and mirrors everywhere you turn. I also believe you have shown yourself up to be a complete an utter fool. But me being bent out of shape, most certainly not.

You see Humpty, or should I call you AussieJoel, I am open and have been nothing but transparent about my actions as an editor. What would you prefer me to do, let you slander me across all the forums, without actually addressing the invalid and incorrect points you have made?

Not going to happen I am afraid. If you spout crap, expect to be called on it and to be shown for the utter fool and idiot you are Joel.

Water off a ducks back webzcas.

If I'm such a clueless idiot as you claim, then BigBcasinos
https://www.gpwa.org/member/bigbcasinos
my business partner on the Raw Funk Games brand must also be a few loaves short of a picnic.

Going on your evaluation of my knowledge anyone would have to be a complete moron to be in business with me, right! Considering that BigB (Brian) has over 100 sites and makes far more than you or just about anyone else dreams of each month, it stands to reason he of all people would want to surround himself with those who DO know what there doing...

Anyway...Nice try webzcas but your not rattling my cage.

You are however doing an excellent job at making yourself look rather silly and pathetic with your childish behaviour.

And yes people for the record my second name is Joel...Didn't know it's a crime to have a 2'nd name...but obviously it is to webzcas - and you think I have issues

However instead of trying to discredit me once again with your childish behaviour, you could have saved yourself the effort and just asked Bryan B (CM)...Or you could ask my partner BigBCasinos (Brian), both would have told you my 2'nd name.

Reiterating...take a break...cool down...take a chill pill and return when you can discuss these issues in a civil manner void of being nasty, spiteful and all the other negative actions your displaying right now.


Cheers



Dave

[Anthony]

Alright guys, we are all better than name calling.

[Webzcas]

Yep Brian is a top guy. Ted introduced me to him in London a few years back.

So are you ready to retract any of your misinformation then? Or are you of the view that by keeping on repeating a lie it eventually becomes the truth?

I mean, have you even bothered to read the facts I have posted about Casinomeister being listed in Guides and the Chats and Forums categories. Or indeed the information Kaus who also happens to be an editor posted about pagat.com having multiple listings?

Until you do, you are still a numpty in my book, as you only see what you want to believe. You ignore the facts that get in the way.

Right I have some more slot articles to get up.

[Former Member 14]

you are still a numpty in my book

And in mine your a rude, arrogant, self serving, opinionated, tantrum throwing child who holds the truth very loosely.

I guess that means no Birthday card this year, huh


Cheers



Dave