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    Default Do new sites rank harder these days?

    Was there recently (last few years) an update that keeps new sites suppressed by Google?

    I know this has always been the case, but does it seem that this phenomenon is much stronger today than it was a few years ago?
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    I believe it just takes more time, Ive been waiting for some sites to rank after building links for 4 months.

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    There are also more sites competing in the space but the number of keywords doesn't change so the space just gets tighter and tighter. I think new sites do rank but you have to do something extra special these days to get them noticed.

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    Agreed with nfint12 here. It can take many months until your sites will actually rank in the big search engines. Regardless of what you might do or not. Google seems to be getting more strict with its guidelines.
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    The ranking game hasn't changed much over the years. It just got much harder, especially for very competitive search terms.

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    The big G definitely keeps new websites in the sandbox. I've seen a few sites last a few weeks to a few months before ranking, but it that time, don't go and build important/keyword related links to a site. Just build the foundation/branded links and create quality content. Show the search engine you're there for the users and not rankings :/

    There was a myth that Google put new sites in a sandbox to force webmasters to spend on AdWords.

    Just stick it out

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    it doesn't take any longer imo.. i wrote a thread a couple of years back and the time frame is still around 1 year + but there is a big difference... you have to build a great site.. before any old junk would rank, now you have to build something thats loved

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    My opinion is Yes! Generally, new sites are harder to rank. I have been doing this for almost 10yrs now and it was a lot easier back then. I have had 2 week old sites rank with a $25 social bookmarking gig off Wickedfire ... lol... those days have definitely gone!

    Google does seem to be getting better at weeding out the crappy sites, but, It still has a long way to go judging by what I can see in the Serps!

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    Hi All,

    Google applies the same algorithm factor to rank the new sites:

    Firstly, she puts you in the sandbox, and if you are able to update your site with useful content regularly, you will be able to get out of the sandbox.

    Last but not least, Google punishes the black hat SEO tactics more than ever!

    So it will be impossible to gain a permanent success without spending effort.

    Cheers

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    Was there recently (last few years) an update that keeps new sites suppressed by Google?

    I know this has always been the case, but does it seem that this phenomenon is much stronger today than it was a few years ago?

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    Yes, they rank harder because age of domain is one of the ranking factors, among others.

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    Google now values new content and there's link velocity too, so it's easier to rank new sites than it was before. Google loves fresh stuff, whereas before you had to wait for a long time to catch up with the guys who already established their websites. Google will notice a new site that publishes new relevant content, is a quality site, and is getting linked to and content is getting engaged with.

    Earlier it took me a long time, 6-12 months to even get some traffic, now I can do it in 3. It's likely I just got better at it, but this freshness factor definitely plays a part. If you know what you're doing you can rank quickly, as soon as you're out of the sandbox.

    Age of domain is indeed a factor, but you can buy an aged domain.

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    I have also same question, Can anybody help me that how i can increase the traffic for my new websites, any seo tips etc.

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    Definitely it takes longer for links to show any effect nowadays. Therefore it can clearly be said that new stuff takes longer to rank. Content wise I have no clue - could be, as DanHorvat as saying, that there is a freshness factor which is beneficial for new sites. I'm not really sure about that. There probably are some more factors to be taken into consideration that we do not know of.

    Overall I'd say it is extremely hard nowadays to rank new sites in competitive niches.

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    Rankings don't mean much. For queries that have videos and People also ask snippets, unless one is in the top 3 of the listing, expect no traffic at all.

    The days of organic rule are fading away. And, this is no conspiracy BS. It's a fact.

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    To be perfectly honest i do think it gets harder to rank high in google. In my opinion the major reason is because Google updates its algorithm and it gives more and more value to the quality of the text. For us as webmaster, therefore becomes increasingly expensive to get the right quality of text and therefore harder to rank.

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    It doesn't take more time to rank, it's just that the volume of websites has grown immensely in the past few years and so there is more competition. It could just take more time because of that and there is more need to build authority.

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    it's depend how much time you put on works. it's not the algorithm make it more tight, my old technique still work.
    since the size of this niche increased, more and more people in the games. so the battle become more competitive.

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    Is building back links the only way to improve rankings?

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    In the end content will get more and more important. Harder to rank... Well, there are massive amounts of websites out there. Germany is even fine, when I think about Finland... Dear god! It is surely important not to have the same non-sense content as all the competition has, translated from other language versions you may serve. Spending time to find real content is the key. Content that is really valueable to the user. You cannot expect to put 1000 generic words about "sports betting" anymore and consequently rank for the term. This will not happen anymore.

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    Yes. The age of the website and the age of the domain are factors that influence ranking. Same goes for the age of the page, but this is a bit more complicated to explain.

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