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    Hello,

    I have just joined Casinopays to take advantage of their 50% offer for 1st 2 months for new affiliates. I made a significant advertising investment to list on a very popular website (real traffic, not PPC crap and not some ''traffic scheme")

    I decided to promote Club Dice Casino and target general online casino goers--the traffic demographic for the site on which Im advertising is 80% male--25-48, yuppies, into gambling with a lot of disposable income

    My stats are below:

    Stats Date Real Clicks Real Downs Casino Players Fun Players Sub Affs Casino First Deposits Amt Casino First Deposits Cnt Deposits Amt Deposits Cnt Withdraws Amt Withdraws Cnt

    Total 1689 7 2 9 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0

    In summary I have 1689 'clicks' Im not sure if this means 1689 visitors or not?? I have 7 DOWNLOADS, 9 FUN players and 2 CASINO PLAYERS and NO DEPOSITS--now, how I can have 2 casino players and no deposits is beyond me??

    Is Casinopays going to wait till their 50% promotion is over to start paying? Are their casinos (Club Dice, in particular) really THIS POOR at converting players--I would have done better with Casinocoins or Referback--LOL.

    Any comments would be greatly appreciated----HELP!!!

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    Only traffic from search engines is of any use, if those 1689 clicks were from search engine traffic you would have a shed load of players. Casino Pays converts amazingly for me, for instance for this month ive sent less clicks than you 1111 to be precise and i have 76 depositing players. It looks to me like the traffic your sending is low quality, i would work harder on getting more search engine traffic.
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    hi--portal--thanks for the response...

    I have a few questions if you dont mind...

    1)Which Casinpays casinos are you promoting?

    2)Do you find that the player retention is good--approx how many of those 76 players do you feel will still be playing in 1 month-6 months etc?

    3) (You dont have to answer this one if you dont want to...) How much revenue would 76 players generate for you--I dont have 26 players and Ive been doing this for over a year!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by voodooman
    hi--portal--thanks for the response...

    I have a few questions if you dont mind...

    1)Which Casinpays casinos are you promoting?

    2)Do you find that the player retention is good--approx how many of those 76 players do you feel will still be playing in 1 month-6 months etc?

    3) (You dont have to answer this one if you dont want to...) How much revenue would 76 players generate for you--I dont have 26 players and Ive been doing this for over a year!!!
    I'm promoting all of them.

    It's hard to say on player retention, i feel player retention is lower with most playtech casinos, allthough playtechs generally convert better than microgaming casinos.

    I'm on a flat rate deal with them so i cant really say how much revenue 76 players would generate.
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    Casinopays converts very well.... i get a 10% conversion rate, meaning out of 10 hits I get 1 real player. I dont promote them much because the player value for me is nonexistent. On another note they seem to be responsive and willing to work with affiliates.

    I think the problem is more likely the traffic in this case.
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    As far as retention, I have some players at Casino Pays that I have had for years.

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    thanks for all the responses!

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    Casinoranking--

    What does 'the player value for me is non-existent' mean??

    universal says he has had players for YEARS-isnt a player who plays for YEARS of tremendous value??

    thanks

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    What it means is that some of us can't go wrong with some programs where others can't even pay a player to play there. It's a case of the wierds I guess. Some casinos perform better for some that do others. And thank heavens, they are not all the same. This way, we all offer the players some diversity.
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    I gave casinopays some very good exposure for a period of 2 months. They had the best spot on my main website. Unfortunately after I removed them it took less than a week for the players that I had to quit playing all together.

    I like to promote casinos that keep the players playing months and even years after I reduce exposure.

    Maybe I didn't give them enough time to prove themselves, but to me the player value was not there.
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    So which casinos that you guys promote

    a) convert the best?
    b) have the best player retention?
    c) have the highest player value for you?

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    From my side

    Playtech convert pretty decent but, with the limited number of games (about 60/70) they players are often stolen away by new games and so forth. Microgaming can be pretty hard to convert but every 2 months or so they launch new games and have pretty decent retention teams. Then, RealTime Gaming. This is a wierd one. The easiest of all to convert. They retain high rollers for me without a hitch but they cannot for all money keep a small player happy. Don't know why this is.

    If you're new, push a nice mix and maybe fly an RTG to get short term cash flow and make sure you have some good microgamers present to pick up the longer term players.

    RTG - I like SilverSands, iNetBet (by reputation, I am new too), Slot Fever, Cirrus, CoolCat, Grand Aces, Geisha Lounge........ There are more, but this could be called a short list

    Playtech - Golden Palace, Casino Tropez (by reputation, I have not really pushed themas I should), Club Dice should be OK, Giant Vegas, Casino Las Vegas.......... Again, plenty more good ones, these I would choose.

    Microgaming - I have more firm views here. Roxy Palace, Spin Palace, All Slots, All Jackpots, Zodiac Casino, Vegas Slot, Vegas Country .......

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    Everything here is my personal view. MANY will have other favorites.
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    i am in contact with a media buyer/promoter at both casinopays and casinopartners - they are very keen to get maximum exposure and do make generous deals. if anybody wants to get in contact with the ones im in contact with then shoot me a mail with your details and i will pass it onto them - mail@cashatcasinos.com
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    Thanks Brian!!

    Excellent info--I really appreciare it--I was also hoping to get casinorankings views since I now he's been doing this for a while...

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