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    opposite, I feel happy when i get some big deposit players/losers
    as we provide arbitrage opp. When a player losses I always think might be he/she won the same amount at other bookmaker ..even the smallest guilt gets vanished

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    I used to think about this issue a lot. Besause gambling is sooo baaaad. Bullshit. What about alcohol, cigarets or even relationships. People can use or abuse anything they want. If they want to play let them. Post warning on your website that not everybody can win like I did it. People are not that stupid. Not even the gamblers. In the UK it is part of the law so you have to have a responsible gambling section

    On the danish websites spillemaskiner gratis and danmarkscasino I put the gambling warning straight on the frontpage. But I dont have huge expectations that it will save anybody. I think it is more a benefit for me since this warning is making the website look more trustworthy.

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    Yesterday I watched tv for the first time since some time. It was like watching parts of a program within a gambling ad show. One advertisement more aggressive and misleading than another one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triple7 View Post
    Yesterday I watched tv for the first time since some time. It was like watching parts of a program within a gambling ad show. One advertisement more aggressive and misleading than another one...
    Yeh there are a heap of gambling adverts on TV. If you watch boxing it can get really bad, as they'll have an ad break in between rounds, so you just get bombarded with gambling ads. Televised live sport and gambling go hand in hand now though, so probably the economies of those sports are partially reliant on gambling and vice versa.

    Last I read they were looking at the gambling ads on TV in the UK, I hope they don't go OTT and ban them though. Maybe a reduction in the amount/frequency of ads is likely though.

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    1. Gambling is not intrinsically evil, i.e. in and of itself.

    2. Gambling can and we know often does have evil added to it: lying, cheating, stealing, fraud, corruption, selfishness, gross culpable irresponsibility, the worst actions taken for the love of money, etc.

    3. There is no such thing as "gambling addiction"; that is a fallacy and a myth, a false and pseudo "medicalization" of what is fundamentally a moral and spiritual issue involving matters such as responsibility, willfulness, recklessness, foolishness, selfishness, etc. True and genuine addictions are drugs, alcohol, and various related means by which such things are consumed. Things like gambling, sex, and of all things shopping are not genuine addictions at all.

    4. Despite "gambling addiction" being a myth and a fallacy, we should certainly seek to regulate the matter and protect such people who are "problem gamblers" and their families from themselves and their actions. We can certainly still have compassion for such people, too, for we all make mistakes, even huge mistakes.

    5. Notwithstanding the above, there also certainly may be instances in which a genuine medical issue has induced or led a person into an episode of extreme and harmful gambling, such as an adverse reaction to medication or something, or some genuine mental disturbance or even neurological injury, and so forth.

    6. Also notwithstanding the above, there are certainly physical components and manifestations to everything we do; brain cells, brain chemistry, hormones, etc. We are physical beings as well as spiritual.

    In summary, it is not gambling or involvement with gambling itself which is evil, only the evil that we add to it, whether as an operator, affiliate program, affiliate, gambler, etc. No more or less than involvement with a myriad of many other types of normal human pursuits and activities that are not intrinsically evil either, including entertainment, sports, hobbies, music, various types of interests and commercial activity, etc., though we know of course that gambling often does have evil added to it and is particularly prone to those who do so because of things like the basic love of money and the evil that often flows from that. People often spend far more on things like entertainment and other "normal" interests than on a little responsible gambling, however, and sometimes the one who merely participates in a little responsible gambling according to what they can afford even comes out even or ahead financially.
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    I'll keep it short. I'm not religious anymore, I was raised a Catholic but once I could think and reason for myself I realized it was nothing more than a fallacy. So when religion is used to try and make sense of everyday life I just smile to myself.

    I would say that there is such an addiction as a gambling addiction:

    Gambling addiction—also known as pathological gambling, compulsive gambling or gambling disorder—is an impulse-control disorder. If you’re a compulsive gambler, you can’t control the impulse to gamble, even when it has negative consequences for you or your loved ones. https://www.helpguide.org/articles/a...m-gambling.htm
    From a religious point of view it may be regarded as a "sin" but that view is not based on any scientific or practical evidence.

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    Even with a true addiction like drugs or alcohol, common sense tells you that it is not true that a person "can't control the impulse." The "addiction" doesn't force them to bring the glass to their mouth or light up the meth pipe or use the needle. With other phenomena that are not true addiction, there is no addiction that forces someone to pull out their credit card at Macy's, for instance. With a genuine physical addiction it is merely painful and unpleasant to refrain while they are still in the worst throes of the addiction, but they can still choose. No "science" or "practical evidence" has proven otherwise.

    There is also no such thing as neutrality in science. Science is conducted by people, and people are not neutral, no matter how many protocols are used. You can quote anything you want, any textbook, website or distinguished "scientist." The notion of "gambling addiction" is simply a biased and non-neutral, non-scientific dogma, flawed interpretation of facts, and myth.

    Take the whole notion of good, evil, and guilt itself. Has "scientific or practical evidence" told us anything about those things? Can it? And yet most of us, i.e. mainly those of us who are not sociopaths, would agree that we know that both good and evil exist and are real, are based on more than just meaningless foundations, and that guilt has a basis beyond merely a physical phenomenon in the brain or what is merely socially practical in society.
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    You're rambling .. and don't seem to understand or acknowledge the modern definition of "addiction" that posters are referring to.

    Here is a reasonable reference :
    https://www.asam.org/quality-practic...n-of-addiction

    Addiction is a primary, chronic disease of brain reward, motivation, memory and related circuitry.
    ...
    Addiction is characterized by:

    1. Inability to consistently Abstain;
    2. Impairment in Behavioral control;
    3. Craving; or increased “hunger” for drugs or rewarding experiences;
    4. Diminished recognition of significant problems with one’s behaviors and interpersonal relationships; and
    5. A dysfunctional Emotional response.

    There are plenty of occurrences of people exhibiting addictive behaviours around activities like food, sex and gambling - thus taking what is a normal pleasurable experience for many people and turning it into a destructive habit that they cannot seem to stop ... an addiction.

    Yes, it's weak willpower if you like, at least that's what would have been stated 30-40 years ago, but modern understanding of the brain and some of it's functions have advanced since then - and we can understand how audio-visual cues can trigger a craving and addictive behaviour (within the modern non-chemical definition).

    Pretending otherwise seems to be counter-productive.

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    Never mind. Obviously I'm not rambling, that's just ad hominem, but you apparently don't understand what I posted.
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    Well, I think that all that people are adults, they can make their own choice. We don't force them to play.

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